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Edited by Mrph1 on Aug 26th 2024 at 10:24:26 AM
Sparkle should have just let Sunset march her army of teenagers right through the portal.
Right into Discord.
That would be fun, wouldn't it?
edited 27th Nov '17 3:13:01 PM by fredhot16
Trans rights are human rights. TV Tropes is not a place for bigotry, cruelty, or dickishness, no matter who or their position.Word of god is that the students aren't supposed to actually hatch a dragon.
Blind Final Fantasy 6 Let's PlaySo, meanwhile in Rotpar's Pony Adventure (why is this my life, now?
):
- Pinkie Pie learns no lessons! Annoy people until they become your friends, even cranky donkeys. IT WORKS. You are in the right for doing so! Life must be exhausting in Ponyville if everyone has to constantly be happy at the demands of the pink lunatic who will torment you until you cave in.
- The Cutiemark Crusaders fuck up again. This is shocking to nobody but them. Meanwhile, when they have their teacher and Big Mac trapped in a hole, you clearly see a tire in the cross-section of the dirt—I was right, this is Earth. Damn dirty ponies, they blew it up! (Though it was probably us)
- The Cutiemark Crusaders fuck up again. It was actually really cool seeing Applejack give them the cold shoulder and the "Yep / Nope" routine, and then Big Mac chews their asses off for pissing people off.
- Con artist ponies..."Mono-d'oh!" But this is kind of an Idiot Plot episode, given that they can't compete with the Apple farm without being given a supply by the Apple family.
- Finally saw the mythical Derpy scene. A pity that the shit hit the fan after this.
- Fluttershy might be a psychopath. She gives into sadistic cruelty very easily whether it's Discord-mind control or...motivational minotaurs? Where did the half-man part come from? Is that what the vile ponies did to humanity?!
- Twilight and time travel and looking like pony-Big Boss...wow.
- So, Twilight's brother is one of Celestia's Custodes...oh, and by that I mean he's Little Kitten? They kind of suck at their job...and the Princess gets Worfed...and the changelings are actually pretty creepy. I've actually seen at least part of this episode because my roommate is a squeeing pony fangirl and the main reason I haven't watched the shot—so one day he's all "Teh PONIES went full Disney, LOOK WATCH WATCH THE SHOW COME ON WATCH PONIES". I saw the scene, said "Huh, that was amusing", and then left.
- Watched first episode of season three. As a history buff—fucking SEE, history is IMPORTANT, stop calling it boring. How long have they been hinting at Twilight being a princess? I get the implication if Cadence babysat her and Celestia and Luna were whispering about it before talking to her.
...wait, Luna, why the hell weren't you defending the capital? Not your fucking problem during the day?
Oh, and Pinkie Pie shoots fuckers with her cannon. All I can think of is the scene from Anchorman where Brick kills a dude with a trident. What? It just shoots "confetti"? Tell that to Brandon Lee who accidentally killed himself with a blank. People die when they are killed...by a cannon.
edited 20th Jul '17 9:01:39 PM by Rotpar
But don't give up hope. Everyone is cured sooner or later. In the end we shall shoot you.Well, Luna has to sleep sometime. She's quite grumpy when she doesn't, as you'll see later on.
And now I'm going to bed.
Post of the Day #1889
Also, why are people more open to proper villains being redeemed than "shallow" jerks? Surely you'd want someone who did less wrong to turn good right?
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Which reminds me. Why did Twilight ask for Luna's help when she and Cadence were cleaning up Rarity's mess of turning everything in Ponyville Awesome, but Impractical? Isn't Celestia of a day pony?
Because A Million Is a Statistic. Counterintuitive though it may sound, petty jerks who abuse our heroes on a personal level actually do tend to be much harder to redeem than maniacal lunatics who tried to do heinous things. It's all because of the same logic trap that leads to Protagonist-Centered Morality: we view the world through our hero's lens.
Someone trying to bake the world into a giant loaf of banana bread is bad, but in a way that resonates logically. We can't really emotionally respond to that. That's so far beyond our ability to emotionally process that it just doesn't connect beyond a basic, "Yeah, that dude's a bad dude. Stop him."
Someone who shoves our favorite character into a locker, conspires to have her fired from her job, and then tells everyone she's a lying ho that sleeps around...that person is heinous on a level that we can relate to and comprehend, and so that person's actions resonate emotionally. We can acknowledge that the first person is bad, but this person is one we can hate, because everything they do to our favorite character feels like they did it to us.
This distinction between things that are logically bad and things that are emotionally reprehensible can often be what determines audience reaction to the character. It's the reason why villains are often given some personal connection to the hero, so that in addition to threatening the world or whatever lame thing they're doing, they can also pop over to kick the hero's puppy to set up a conflict the audience can care about.
My Tumblr. Currently side-by-side liveblogging Digimon Adventure, sub vs dub.Also, in my country, there is no such thing as middle school. Primary school is seven years and high school is five years.
A couple decades ago, it was that way in the US as well.
Blind Final Fantasy 6 Let's PlayI'm confused. Don't all public schools have free lunches? I thought that free lunches at public schools were a universal thing in the US .
edited 21st Jul '17 8:22:44 AM by Chariot
Sunset using Photoshop would have been stupid but it would make some sense except for one thing.
The original photos exist. If only they didn't exist, if they weren't shown at all, her plan wouldn't have turned from "dumb but understandable" to " magic".
Magic is the only explanation for how this frame-up happened.
edited 27th Nov '17 3:12:45 PM by fredhot16
Trans rights are human rights. TV Tropes is not a place for bigotry, cruelty, or dickishness, no matter who or their position.So did mine. In high school, my grandma was the lunchlady who took the payments so she sometimes covered for me, but payment was still expected.
edited 21st Jul '17 9:28:39 AM by TobiasDrake
My Tumblr. Currently side-by-side liveblogging Digimon Adventure, sub vs dub.There are free lunch programs, but you have to qualify for them. Otherwise you either have to pay or bring your own food.
Reaction Image RepositoryPaying for school lunches never seemed right to me. Even with programs that provided free lunches, it's still charging the majority for food that never looked like they had any quality-control.
edited 21st Jul '17 2:27:30 PM by LordVatek
This song needs more love.My school didn't have any real kind of school lunch program at all, payed or otherwise. The closest was a cafeteria/restaurant kind of deal, and even then that was mostly just like, hot dogs, chips, etc.
Of course I went to a very small high school (~ 500 students or so) in a small town, so it both A) didn't have the resources necessary to uphold something like that and B) didn't need it because if you had little enough money you needed free school meals you probably didn't live in a town almost an hour away from the nearest major city.
Birthright: an original web novel about Dragons, the Burdens of Leadership, and Mangoes.Well, the high school I graduated from had free lunches though that school may not have been the best.
The other school I went to for two years had me pay for my food though it wasn't really all that expensive, about the equivalent of two dollars or so. It was an elevator school in Qatar so that also might not really apply.
edited 27th Nov '17 3:27:31 PM by fredhot16
Trans rights are human rights. TV Tropes is not a place for bigotry, cruelty, or dickishness, no matter who or their position.Yeah, when I went to school it was always 2.50 for lunch, and if you got up to 20 dollars you took a fruit plate.
The food wasn't very good, tbh xD I think for most of the time in my last year it came out almost constantly burnt almost beyond consumption, though it stopped after a while because I think they got complaints of "We can't eat this stuff if you keep burning it."
edited 21st Jul '17 6:01:53 PM by theLibrarian
I never ate school lunches, I always brought my own food from home.
Blind Final Fantasy 6 Let's PlayIn Qatar, I usually ate chocolate biscuits, hot-dog croissants, and Indian rice with chicken.
Back home, I seemed to be the only one who didn't complain constantly about the food. The food was fine most of the time!
Nowadays, I just take Mc Donalds as my lunch most of the time.
edited 27th Nov '17 3:28:01 PM by fredhot16
Trans rights are human rights. TV Tropes is not a place for bigotry, cruelty, or dickishness, no matter who or their position.

So, my BFF's wife has joined us for this. At her behest, I'm calling her "Birdy". She's only seen Rainbow Rocks and I don't know if she remembers it. My BFF, for the sake of having a name, is going by "Viking". Unmarked comments are Viking's; mine and Birdy's have our names attached.
So, right off the bat, how did Twilight know that Sunset was a "she"? She's covered in a cloak. Is female just the default assumed gender in Equestria? F*cking matriarchal society, man.
"Sending all of you could upset the balance of the other world." Isn't the name of the show, 'Friendship is Magic'? Isn't the point of the show that you can do anything as long as you have your friends with you.
Drake: Eeyup. It's bullshitty. Like, unanimously agreed to be bullshit.
And there's the vagina skirt.
I like how Twilight pouts at her hoof through the portal.
Birdy: Twilight is weak as shit. Spike pushed that door open and he's a small yappy dog. Twilight ran into it face-first and it didn't budge.
So, are huge boots part of the dress code? It's only girls who wear them at the school, but it's all the girls.
Birdy: It's because the animators are used to drawing ponies. They use boots to cover up the fact that they don't know what human legs look like.
Drake:
More seriously, feet are the big issue animators have. They're one of the hardest things on the human body to draw, so a lot of animators use tricks to avoid having to. That's why I was freaking out in 'Rainbow Rocks when Rarity showed up to the Battle of the Bands in her outfit with all the metal flanges: because she was wearing shoes with visible toes. That never happens.
Drake: Okay, I'm not the one who's supposed to be making comments here but this has been bothering me. What the f*ck is a vice principal? I've only ever heard it as "Assistant Principal".
Birdy: My school had a vice principal, but it also had a dean so try explaining that. Deans are practically nonexistent outside of colleges.
[[Drake's note: It was at this time that there was an awkward shared silence between me and Viking, because Birdy has not seen the third EQG so neither of us wanted to spoil anything.]]
Hey, don't look at me. My high school was a mental institution. I don't know what y'all were dealing with.
[[Drake's note: Birdy found the gag with Fluttershy's overflowing backpack of animals to be hysterical.]]
Principal Celestia looks so tired. She looks like that principal that doesn't really care. Everything she says is so bland. She's just like, "This is our dance. It's what we have. Go do this. Are we done yet?"
Birdy: I want to know what she was marking on the calendar.
Drake: I think it was the date of the Fall Formal, based on the context?
Birdy: Why would the Fall Formal be on a Tuesday?
Drake: Huh. Yeah, that is a really confusing bit of blockingHey! .
"Well, if you do need anything else, my door is always open." (door slam)
Birdy:
Nope!
Yeah, you don't really mean what you say, do you, Princess Celestia?
Birdy: Princess cares. Principal does not.
Birdy: This movie could have ended a lot faster. Random bit of sparkle shows up on the lawn on the same day as Twilight does. She could just go to the principal and go, "I'm sorry, I lost my random bit of sparkle, could I have that back?
Drake: That's actually addressed. The fake crown Sunset left is the Fall Formal Crown. So Celestia thinks the Element of Magic is that crown. Twilight can't say it belongs to her because it clearly doesn't; not if it's their crown.
Birdy: But how would Twilight know what the Fall Formal Crown is if she's a new student? She could just say, "I lost something that looks like this symbol on my skirt. Have you seen it?"
That's actually a good point, but it requires Celestia to be smart.
Birdy: How does Twilight pay for lunches?
Oh my god! Drake, you remember how you were talking about how this is the shitty school for bad kids? Well, those schools usually have free lunch programs. Their meals are subsidized because their families can't afford to pay for them.
Drake: Huh. That's actually a really good point.
Birdy: Yeah. The lady at the register wasn't taking money, she was just handing out apples. …they have a lot of fruit at that school! "Here is an apple to go with your fruit salad."
…did…did she just take that balloon off of her cutie mark?! Also, she teleports. In a world without magic, Pinkie Pie is still magical!
Drake: I actually hadn't noticed that. Also, the balloon she grabbed regenerated on her skirt.
I just had a realization. There were three pictures of Sunset Shimmer. So they should all be graduating this year. This just proves that this place is some kind of hellish purgatory where they're force to repeat school forever.
Birdy: Freshmen aren't even allowed to run for these kind of competitions. They're junior and senior exclusive.
Drake: Huh. I have so many questions right now. I'm going to have even more if they come back to school after this summer's up. As of the fourth movie, summer's started.
Birdy: Sunset might be a year ahead of the others, which would be why they're not challenging her. It could be everyone else is juniors and she's a senior.
Drake: In which case, I'll have so many questions if she comes back to school after this summer's up. Then again, she could get held back a year and then come back with them. Five-year tracks for problem students are a thing. The whole reason I dropped out was because they were going to put me on one of those and I was fed up with school. I was like, "F*ck this," and went and got my GED.
"I should have known Princess Celestia would send you and your little dog too."
Birdy: Ugh. That is so overused. "And your little dog too!" I'm all for Wizard of Oz references, but can we find a new one instead of constantly rehashing that one?
Birdy: Sunset must have failed Celestia early on. Twilight had to hatch a dragon to become Celestia's student. Sunset doesn't have a dragon of her own.
Drake: That's actually something I've noticed in general. Where's Moon Dancer's dragon? Where is Lyra Heartstrings's dragon? How about Sunburst's? Twilight is the only one who seems to have actually passed that test.
Yeah, that's right. They're all Celestia's students and none of them have dragons. Maybe they're all failures?
Drake: Maybe you're not supposed to pass it? Star Trek calls it the Kobayashi Maru. It's the test you're meant to fail so they can gauge how you handle failure. Twilight might be the only one who passed because you're not actually meant to.
Huh. Yeah, she just kept at it until she succeeded. That was her reaction to failure.
Birdy: You know, if you think about it, they all do that. All of the Mane Six have that reaction. They might fail, but they don't quit. They always come back and keep at it until they succeed.
You're right. Other ponies don't do that. Ponies like Sunburst give up, but the Manes succeed because they keep at it.
Birdy: Or Bon Bon. Bon Bon was a spy but then she quit and went into hiding. So now she's in Ponyville.
Drake: I suddenly want Bon Bon to become, like, the leader of Twilight's black ops group. Conducting black ops friendship missions with…I don't know who'd make a good spy? Pinkie?
Pinkie literally dresses up as a spy several times throughout the show. Including up to literally having a Fluttershy costume. She'd be amazing at black ops friendship.
Drake: Fair enough. I honestly thought I was being an asshole when I said that.
"You don't know the first thing about fitting in."
Birdy: Like don't stand in the creepy hallway. Nobody stands in the creepy hallway unless they are either trying to buy or sell drugs.
Drake: Man, that deleted scene must be awesome.
That's a really big library. I am jealous of that library.
Hi, Cheerilee!
Birdy: I like her skirt and boots.
"Didn't you ever ask Rainbow Dash why she didn't show up?" "I guess I kinda stopped talking to her after that."
TEEEEEEEEEENAAAAAAAGEEEEEEEERS
"All you've got to do is beat me in a game of one-on-one."
That's not fair! Twilight is a huge-ass nerd and Rainbow Dash is the queen of all sports. SHE'S PICKING ON A CRIPPLE.
Drake: Twilight's not…well…huh. Actually. By pony standards, not having her horn does make her handicapped.
Dash really is being a jock bully right now. She kicked Twilight in the face with the ball.
Birdy: Dash's outfit is the standard outfit of anyone whose parents want them to be more girly. "Fine, I'll wear your stupid skirt, but I'm putting shorts on under it."
(Flash Sentry diner scene)
Birdy: Yay, awkward teenage moments.
Yeah. Remember when I told you that she has a teenage brain and hormones now? Yeah.
Birdy: To be fair, she's never had one before.
I really hate those two. Snails and Tails? They're obnoxious.
"I think it's obvious that the school cannot let someone who would do such a thing compete."
Birdy: What.
Oh, I remember this part! This is so stupid.
Birdy: How did Sunset photoshop that?
Drake: You wish that was photoshop.
Yeah, this gets so much stupider.
Birdy: Well, going back for a moment, I like how they did the pony tails. How they tie on so you actually see how they attached.
Yeah, that is pretty cool. Most cartoons just have them magically stick.
"Someone must have cut these photos out and put them together."
Birdy: Photoshop?
No. Cut out and taped.
Drake: So much dumber. Human Luna is an idiot.
"If I don't get my crown, I won't be able to go back to Equestria for thirty moons!"
HOW LONG IS A MOON?! I can't care if I don't know!
"Twilight, these girls are your friends. They won't care that you're a pony princess from Equestria."
"IT CAN TALK?!"
Spike is looking right up Rarity's skirt right now. Also, AJ victim-shamed Pinkie. Pinkie was flipping out because all her stuff was destroyed and AJ was just like, "Shut up, bro. None of those legitimate emotions for you!" Pinkie was distraught because she spent a lot of time on that shit! And probably some of her own money for them, ahem, "cider".
Drake: I mean, to be fair, Spike's seen Rarity naked like a million times.
"How did you know all that?" "Just a hunch!" No. That was not a hunch. You were snooping up clues or something. That would have been a much more interesting movie: how Pinkie learned everything about Twilight!
(AJ carrying the table while the boys gawk)
NOT NECESSARY! Ugh! Blatant obnoxious girl power scene to set girls against boys is BLATANT.
Birdy: I've been AJ there. Boys are dumb. God, I was AJ in high school with this. I had so many things to do on that day. I needed to get to pottery and—
Drake, this movie is giving Birdy PTSD flashbacks. Make it stop.
(chucking the streamers)
Birdy: Best part of decorating the gym: just lobbing shit at the ceiling.
Birdy: Those two with the ladder are gay. That's what that look was.
Pinkie can jump really high on one foot.
(Celestia and Luna taking votes)
Good job, everyone? Now get out of here.
Birdy: Everyone go home because we want to get drunk and you're stalling us.
Birdy: So, would that be Rarity's parents' shop that they're always hanging out at?
That dress AJ is wearing is not the one Rarity was hemming.
Birdy: No, it's not. I liked the green one better.
(Flash's sports car pulls up)
UMMMMMM
Birdy: Well, we know who the rich kid is.
"I didn't say no. I mean, I didn't mean no."
UGGGGGH. YES YOU DID. THIS IS SO RAPEY.
"I would love to dance with you."
NOOOOOOO. BAD ANIME PONY.
(Twilight promptly slams Flash right into the door)
Birdy: GOOD anime pony.
Scootaloo, stop doing the chicken dance. You're crazy.
Birdy: Rarity is performing a mating dance.
Drake: …towards Fluttershy.
Birdy: I could get behind that.
Does anyone notice that AJ and Rarity have the shortest skirts here? And they're the two most likely to manspread? Rarity's setting them up for disaster.
Drake: In seriousness, I think Celestia's supposed to give a shit, but none of the voice actors really wanted to be here and it shows in their performances. Her actress is phoning it in, which results in the bland, disinterested voice Celestia has.
Birdy: Trixie's at the snack machine again?! Seriously?!
"Fine. You win."
…the…the f*ck?!
(Sunset v. Twilight)
This is a bitch fight if I ever saw one.
(Spike grabs the crown)
This wouldn't have been an issue if you hadn't told the goons to let him go.
(Spike can't open the door)
Birdy: What?! He opened that door JUST FINE earlier!
"I'll take that!"
Birdy: Who the hell did she think she was throwing that too?! She just closed her eyes and chucked it!
Hey, Twilight. Quit being an idiot, Twilight.
She's bad at this game.
Birdy: Whoever catches this crown shall become the new Princess! …SHIT, NOT YOU!!!
Birdy: Um…towers of doom are bad. And Sunset was crying! She was seriously crying. This is painful.
Birdy: She became a harpy? Seriously?
"But let's let bygones be bygones."
Nobody ever actually means that when they say it.
MIIIIIND RAPE. And that's how all of academia got hired?
Birdy: They've very effectively depicted the Texas School Board in a single character.
"With my own little teenage army behind me, I will get [Equestria]!"
…how are they supposed to defeat ponies? Ponies can kick these kids and they will explode.
(henshin sequence)
NO. STOP WITH THIS NONSENSE. NO MORE ANIME.
…and then they hit the kids with more mind rape. Uh…mind cleansing? Brain washing? …wait….
Birdy: Nice to know Rainbow immediately knows how to fly.
Yeah, and now she will never touch the ground so long as she can help it. I bet after her wings go away, she's the saddest person in the entire universe.
Birdy: That's why she starts the band: to get her wings back. She probably initiates a shit-ton of sleepovers too. "Friendship got me my wings and it's going to bring them back, goddammit!"
Drake: …you know, that might actually be how she became the leader of the group.
"Would now be a good time to ask you for that dance?"
NO. THERE IS NO TIME FOR THIS. GO AWAY.
(Twilight's dancing)
Everyone's getting a view of her twat right now. Everyone.
(Sunset handed the trowel)
Birdy: No. That never happens.
Yeah, that's called child labor. …although Sunset is technically an adult, so…huh.
"We've got to stop bumping into each other like this."
BURN IN A FIRE. BURN. BUUUUUUURN.
(Pinkie exposits about Flash)
You know what I think it is? I think the Pinkies are a collective. They have some kind of cross-dimensional space where they can gather and trade information.
No. NO. You don't get to just end the movie like that. Not without an explanation. This is an abuse of Pinkie. I really want them to explain this one of these days. Pinkie Sense doesn't cover it.
EDIT: In the future, I may want to look into the use of colored text.
edited 20th Jul '17 7:18:43 PM by TobiasDrake
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