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A thread to discuss My Little Pony: Friendship Is Magic and the tie-in media.

All of the usual forum rules apply. In addition, please remember that the thread is discussing a kids' show, and it's primarily focused on the work itself, not the fanfic — in particular, we don't want to see lewdness creeping in.

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I don't know WHAT the Hell happened (I blame shenanigans) but we're going to start from scratch. Post your feels for this awesome show again! Naow!

Edited by Mrph1 on Aug 26th 2024 at 10:24:26 AM

darkabomination Since: Mar, 2012
#125201: Aug 4th 2015 at 10:47:44 AM

To me, he's not sympathetic because he goes through a lot of the same stuff I did, sans giant robots. But he never does anything to help himself. I didn't see any indication he wanted out of his situation. Going through that sucks and it hurts, but if you want it to end and build a new frame of strength to deal with it, you have to face your fears.

Seraphem Since: Oct, 2009
#125202: Aug 4th 2015 at 2:04:14 PM

Yeah Shinji wasn't some normal kid, who slowly broke down under the stress of piloting a giant robot that is the only defense mankind has. He was messed up to begin with. And never actually tried to do anything to help himself aside from the occasional bouts of passive aggressiveness.

Arha Since: Jan, 2010
#125203: Aug 4th 2015 at 2:40:42 PM

I don't blame him. Isn't it basically the point of the story to watch people self destruct when with just a little effort a lot of people would have been a lot better off? Except they can't get that help because everyone is broken. Shinji is surrounded by people who abuse or ignore him and there's basically no one he can relate to or depend on.

I mean, sure, if you're watching the story for the monster fights then Shinji would be kind of grating but the angels just never seemed at all interesting to me. They're not what I was there for.

crimsonstorm15 shine on from A parallel universe Since: Jan, 2012 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
shine on
#125204: Aug 4th 2015 at 7:51:44 PM

Shinji's role is to be a target of hate and abuse, having it focused on him so that others can get it out of their systems.

wasn't that Lelouch's plan at the end of Code Geass?

All things are lawful for me, but all things are not expedient: all things are lawful for me, but all things edify not.
JapaneseTeeth Existence Weighed Against Nonbeing from Meinong's jungle Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Mu
Existence Weighed Against Nonbeing
#125205: Aug 4th 2015 at 9:00:33 PM

Yeah, except in his case he meant to do that. tongue

Anyway, I'm going to bed.

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theLibrarian Since: Jul, 2009
#125206: Aug 4th 2015 at 9:17:20 PM

And it was more realistic than "I'm for some reason a magnet for everyone else to hurl their abuse at so this whole enterprise doesn't collapse under everyone else's issues" Ikari.

YamiVizziniX Since: Jan, 2015 Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
#125207: Aug 4th 2015 at 9:55:46 PM

Twilight's new line for future friendship quests.

good night

There is no beginning. There is no end. There is only... Hooty.
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#125208: Aug 5th 2015 at 1:53:52 AM

Hey there guys. How are y'all doin' now?

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theLibrarian Since: Jul, 2009
#125209: Aug 5th 2015 at 6:20:47 AM

Even if Lelouch's thing is still hopelessly optimistic and actually shouldn't work (Hell, Hitler was basically what Lelouch aspired to be and the world was teetering on the edge of an even more destructive war as soon as WWII ended) it's still better than Shinji.

Sereg Since: Jun, 2010
#125210: Aug 5th 2015 at 6:39:51 AM

On a slight different track, Sereg, I'm interested in hearing more about this: Still, I remember being extremely weirded out by the concept of Doylism upon discovering it. It seemed so utterly warped.
Basically, my thoughts were, “Why would you treat the events of fiction as if they weren’t really happening!? That seems to defy the entire point.”

Hey, can I get some recommendations for either a fic or a show that is really long and really awesome? Preferrably something thatgets creative with the rules of the setting?
I hear One Piece is good for this? I wouldn’t know though. Maybe Death Note, Code Geass ... No Game No Life ... Maybe not long enough. Mahou Sensei Negima? Medaka Box? I just finished reading Red Rising and while it starts as less than awesome, it soon makes up for that. Looking to find the second book in the series.

Judging from what you said, you'd completely hate the protagonist of Red Rising at first. Trust me. So did I. The character development is great.

@ Sereg, you can NOT take everything literally. Some things are pretty explicitly meant only as a quick joke, or solely for the audience's information, not literal interpretations of what goes on. The biggest example is some of the musical numbers. Yes some clearly do happen in 'verse, but others.. there is no way they can. They are clearly non-deigetic. You do have to use some logic in looking at things and how it fits or not. Not to mention times when things are just flat out wrong, or inconstant for no reason.

What they were meant as is irrelevant. Once added, they are an explicit part of the verse. Things for the audience’s benefit are fine, but I don’t believe they are treated as being solely that in this show. If some examples are deigitic, they all are.

On Shinji: My problem with him isn't that he's weak or scared or any of that. He's just ... boring and ... self-centered and ... well, it's hard to describe. I just found him less than interesting.

YamiVizziniX Since: Jan, 2015 Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
#125211: Aug 5th 2015 at 7:00:43 AM

One could always say that what we're watching are in-universe dreams/hallucinations that nonetheless more or less reflect what "really" happened. Like, say, Lost Highway.evil grin

There is no beginning. There is no end. There is only... Hooty.
Seraphem Since: Oct, 2009
#125212: Aug 5th 2015 at 7:09:27 AM

No, there is outright no way that some things are meant to be literal, especially when it comes to musical numbers. If that was the case, then in Bats! AJ and Fluttershy were talking about two entirely separate creatures.

YamiVizziniX Since: Jan, 2015 Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
#125213: Aug 5th 2015 at 7:14:08 AM

Well, that can be them "literally" having Imagine Spots.

There is no beginning. There is no end. There is only... Hooty.
Seraphem Since: Oct, 2009
#125214: Aug 5th 2015 at 7:16:59 AM

Which in turn means that whole, other five circling Fluttershy thing so many people bitched about, also not literal. Barring some of them, mostly Pinkie Pie songs, the musical numbers are not what is literally happening on screen.

storyyeller More like giant cherries from Appleloosa Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: RelationshipOutOfBoundsException: 1
More like giant cherries
#125215: Aug 5th 2015 at 7:22:42 AM

Post of the Day #1189

Straight Answer: They leisurely watch My Little Pony and talk about with My Little Pony with one another.

The Answer You Want To Hear: It starts with an elaborate secret handshake. Every member of the Commonwealth of Bronyhood must enact this handshake in accordance with the ancient Pact of Magical Friendship before convening in any and all matters of MLP. And that's just one of the initial rules (or "doctrines" persay) in a 972-volume series originally scrolled on parchment. Then after all matters have been addressed and sorted, the bronies drink a sacred brew made from oats and burnt apple shavings as they recite the Oath of Celestia as a constant reminder of where their loyalty lies lest they forget and be scorched from the earth by "her ladyship's" burning eye inhabiting the core of the sun. After that, they go usually go out for tacos and karaoke before heading home.

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KylerThatch literary masochist Since: Jan, 2001
literary masochist
#125216: Aug 5th 2015 at 8:00:56 AM

I nominate that as the premise of our next circular bird.

This "faculty lot" you speak of sounds like a place of great power...
JapaneseTeeth Existence Weighed Against Nonbeing from Meinong's jungle Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Mu
Existence Weighed Against Nonbeing
#125217: Aug 5th 2015 at 8:22:01 AM

That's right we need to think of the next one.

Maybe we could do something like making it The Rashomon. Where each character retells the same story, but changes something. And eventually the same characters tell the story again and it's different. Eventually the story they're supposedly telling would be completely different from the original version.

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KylerThatch literary masochist Since: Jan, 2001
literary masochist
#125219: Aug 5th 2015 at 8:29:21 AM

Personally, I'm not particularly enthused about telling exactly the same story each chapter (albeit with variations each time).

What if the chapters were written in reverse chronological order? The first chapter is the conclusion, and each succeeding chapter has to explain what happened before the events of the chapter it's following.

This "faculty lot" you speak of sounds like a place of great power...
JapaneseTeeth Existence Weighed Against Nonbeing from Meinong's jungle Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Mu
Existence Weighed Against Nonbeing
#125220: Aug 5th 2015 at 8:53:40 AM

[up]Well, the whole point would be that the story varies enough that it becomes completely different by the end. Like Twilight comes back from business in Canterlot to discover the Town Hall is in ruins, and everybody has a different version of exactly what caused it.

Though the "reverse order" thing could also work, though it would be a kind of a pain to set up. Would we post the chapters in writing order or in chronological order?

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Seraphem Since: Oct, 2009
edvedd Darling. from At the boutique, dear. Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: We finish each other's sandwiches
JapaneseTeeth Existence Weighed Against Nonbeing from Meinong's jungle Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Mu
Existence Weighed Against Nonbeing
#125223: Aug 5th 2015 at 9:07:36 AM

Yeah, like the only thing that needs to be consistent is the core idea. Like as long as the Town Hall is destroyed, most of the rest of it is up in the air. Ideally you'd want to include some content from the previous version, but you could easily twist it. Like if the first chapter is RD claiming that an Ursa Major wrecked the town hall before she used a Rainboom to drive it away, the second one could be Applejack claiming that there was an Ursa, but the Town Hall was actually destroyed by Rainbow Dash's Rainboom missing the monster, etc.

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#125224: Aug 5th 2015 at 9:07:50 AM

I'm gonna go to sleep now. G'night everypony.

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KylerThatch literary masochist Since: Jan, 2001
literary masochist
#125225: Aug 5th 2015 at 9:08:00 AM

Though the "reverse order" thing could also work, though it would be a kind of a pain to set up. Would we post the chapters in writing order or in chronological order?
Writing order. And it's really not complicated at all, the only thing that changes is that instead of writing what happens next, you write what happened previously.

On a different note, if people really want to do a Rashomon, that's cool too.

This "faculty lot" you speak of sounds like a place of great power...

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