I'll do a wick check once I know what exactly I'm checking for. In my experience seeing this across the wiki, it's usually a ZCE on someone's character list (usually one that's not a psychopath, often Troubled, but Cute or a Broken Bird).
Found a Youtube Channel with political stances you want to share? Hop on over to this page and add them.This seems to be Freudian Excuse applied to issues with one's mother (or father?). Azula and Norman Bates are the best examples I can think of.
I doubt the tropeworthiness of a villain with a specifically evil parent. Abusive Parents or Freudian Excuse seem to cover it.
edited 4th Sep '13 6:48:03 PM by MikuruFan
Freudian Excuse already covers many of the examples here, thus making this trope redundant.
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Yeah, that kind of thing is what I usually see used as Mommy Issues.
It's more of a supertrope to The Un-Favorite, since it wouldn't require there being a favorite.
As it's written Mommy Issues looks like Freudian Excuse but specifically about the parents. The title is definitely bad. Saying, "It's always the mother," is a lot stronger than just having some mommy issues.
Then wouldn't that just be a case of The Same But More Specific? I still doubt the tropeworthiness of this particular one, and I vote for merge with Freudian Excuse.
edited 10th Oct '13 5:27:01 AM by theAdeptrogue
My issue is that, 9/10 times, that's what Freudian Excuse is used for. And even if it does get its own distinct page, it would need a new name since Mommy Issues is decidedly unclear, in my opinion.
edited 15th Oct '13 5:34:16 AM by Larkmarn
Found a Youtube Channel with political stances you want to share? Hop on over to this page and add them.Same here. Most of the examples I saw can be covered by either Freudian Excuse or Abusive Parents (or both).
Abusive Parents appears to not be about the influences of a character but a trait of the characters themselves. The victim could still be a child at this point.
I agree that Freudian Excuse is usually blaming the parents. I don't see anything to lose by merging them.
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I'm not sure if the issue here is an Unclear Description or Ambiguous Name. Mommy Issues (along with its redirect, Daddy Issues) is specifically about someone going insane/murderous/deviant due to Parental Issues. But... what's the threshold for that? Would someone being sexually promiscuous count? Having trust issues in a relationship? If things as mundane as those count, then the description needs to be altered be less... murder-y.
If, however, the trope is specifically about people being shaped into psychopaths by their parents, then it's a bad name. Colloquially, it simply means someone has Parental Issues (most often "Well Done, Son" Guy or a girl with a mild Electra Complex so she sleeps around). A clearer name would be appreciated. It strikes me as weird that it's distinct from Parental Issues since, well, it's effectively synonymous with Parental Issues but with one parent singled out.
edited 4th Sep '13 10:16:35 AM by Larkmarn
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