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SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#51: Oct 16th 2013 at 11:56:02 AM

With 10 votes? That's a leetle bit too little.

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Willbyr Hi (Y2K) Relationship Status: With my statistically significant other
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#52: Oct 31st 2013 at 6:37:31 AM

This is at a point where it can be called. Both options have enough votes to have action taken.

SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#53: Oct 31st 2013 at 10:34:57 AM

So, we now need an Alt Names crowner as well as a YKTTW (?) for the "wrong word number" version, yes?

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
Willbyr Hi (Y2K) Relationship Status: With my statistically significant other
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#55: Nov 22nd 2013 at 3:30:26 PM

Alt titles crowner is hooked.

SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#56: Dec 24th 2013 at 2:09:24 AM

Votes bump!

Two Words: Added Emphasis is the only one in green with 9-2 yea/nay.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
Willbyr Hi (Y2K) Relationship Status: With my statistically significant other
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#57: Jan 1st 2014 at 6:48:04 AM

Calling for Two Words: Added Emphasis

edited 1st Jan '14 6:48:31 AM by Willbyr

MikuruFan from Away Since: Nov, 2012
#58: Jan 13th 2014 at 9:18:43 AM

Who's making the YKTTW for the incorrect word count variation?

SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#59: Jan 13th 2014 at 9:19:40 AM

Nobody so far.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
johnnye Since: Jan, 2001
#60: Mar 9th 2014 at 7:49:00 PM

Hang on, in what way is "Two Words: Added Emphasis" going to be any less prone to misuse than "Two Words: Obvious Trope"?

The particular misuse this is getting is people potholing it whenever they do it. That's the kind of problem I Am Not Making This Up had and Incredibly Lame Pun still has. It's not a problem with the name: it's a pothole, the name doesn't even display. Even Word Count For Emphasis would still get potholed the same way.

edited 9th Mar '14 7:57:48 PM by johnnye

SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#61: May 18th 2014 at 1:40:59 AM

Actually, trope names do influence the potholing thereof. And the old trope name does carry an "no more context necessary" undercurrent that promotes sinkholing.

Bumping btw, because I am not really up for starting a YKTTW.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
rodneyAnonymous Sophisticated as Hell from empty space Since: Aug, 2010
#62: Jul 5th 2014 at 5:26:09 PM

Not every instance of the word trope in a trope name is an instance of that word being used as a placeholder. (I am still sort of annoyed about Gonna Need More Trope being changed for "that reason"; there were other reasons to rename it but that wasn't one of them, it is a play on "Gonna need more rope".)

edited 5th Jul '14 5:26:39 PM by rodneyAnonymous

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crazysamaritan NaNo 4328 / 50,000 from Lupin III Since: Apr, 2010
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#63: Aug 20th 2015 at 7:31:40 AM

This has been pretty dead. Starting up YKTTW for "character says 'X words', and then uses Y words instead".

Link to TRS threads in project mode here.
shimaspawn from Here and Now Since: May, 2010 Relationship Status: In your bunk
#64: Aug 20th 2015 at 7:33:09 AM

Also, the page move needs to happen. Make it so.

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crazysamaritan NaNo 4328 / 50,000 from Lupin III Since: Apr, 2010
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#65: Aug 20th 2015 at 8:07:59 AM

Yep. Stealing the miscount version from the current page, and moving them to https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/discussion.php?id=5lw4n5gqtnv408lenqamg29j

edited 20th Aug '15 8:08:13 AM by crazysamaritan

Link to TRS threads in project mode here.
Berrenta Bejeweled (she/her) (Ten years in the joint) Relationship Status: I made a point to burn all of the photographs
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#66: Aug 21st 2015 at 9:41:19 PM

Looks like we may have our work cut out for us, if we are changing all those redirects.

Meanwhile, there's the double redirect on top of that (Two Words), which I'm going to resolve in a moment.

Berrenta Bejeweled (she/her) (Ten years in the joint) Relationship Status: I made a point to burn all of the photographs
Bejeweled (she/her)
#67: Sep 9th 2015 at 10:40:51 AM

Okay, I have been doing wick cleaning. There were two instances I found that could qualify under the proposed "miscount" trope. Left hidden notes and added the pages in my To-Do list so I could get back to them once the proposed trope's fate is decided.

Josef5678 Psshhh... from Virginia Since: Jul, 2013 Relationship Status: Mu
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#68: Nov 29th 2015 at 9:06:02 PM

I have began to do a wick check, renaming tropes to the new name. Should I delete if it is being used as a stock phrase?

SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#69: Nov 30th 2015 at 12:03:21 AM

Yes.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
Josef5678 Psshhh... from Virginia Since: Jul, 2013 Relationship Status: Mu
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#70: Nov 30th 2015 at 1:56:26 PM

Wow. That's, like, most of this trope's wicks.surprised

Karxrida from Eureka, the Forbidden Land Since: May, 2012 Relationship Status: I LOVE THIS DOCTOR!
#71: Nov 30th 2015 at 2:03:41 PM

We can make red-linked redirects to preserve large inbound numbers, right?

EDIT: The inbound count is 319 (same amount as the current wick count, oddly). Is that enough to require a preservation?

edited 30th Nov '15 2:05:08 PM by Karxrida

SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#72: Nov 30th 2015 at 2:05:31 PM

Not within a short time frame, we can't.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
Berrenta Bejeweled (she/her) (Ten years in the joint) Relationship Status: I made a point to burn all of the photographs
Bejeweled (she/her)
#73: Dec 1st 2015 at 7:40:02 AM

Working on the redirect Two Words, and I got a question:

How are we handling wicks in Headscratchers and WMG?

SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#74: Dec 1st 2015 at 7:44:15 AM

Same as in any other page.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
Berrenta Bejeweled (she/her) (Ten years in the joint) Relationship Status: I made a point to burn all of the photographs
Bejeweled (she/her)
#75: Dec 1st 2015 at 7:56:37 AM

Okay, gotcha. Will handle those as well, then.

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