This one should count.
But it's way down near the bottom of the first page, so no wonder the OP didn't notice it.
Meh. As much as Green Lantern plays well in comic sales, that has not translated into mainstream recognition. When the public is too confused that the main character of the movie is the same main character as in the comics, you don't have the level of recognition that Wonder Woman gets just from being grandfathered into the public consciousness.
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I was thinking this one actually.
Her status as part of the "Big Three" has always been dubious at best and really only stems from the fact that she too has had a solo series since the Golden Age, but that is largely due to the fact that if DC didn't keep a Wonder Woman book in print the copy write would revert to the Marston Estate (this has since been changed).
Her book did sell pretty well back then though. As of now, not so much. As far as capital goes, supporting character from Aquaman have outsold her.
In the comic book world itself she is still very much part of the big three, John's efforts to elevate Green Lantern doing little to displace her (the treatment of original lantern Alan Scott causing something of a backlash with readers probably not helping either)
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To be fair I don't think her book ever dud badly enough that it would have been cancelled.
That said I don't think your average portrayal of Wonder Woman is that interesting. I think attempts to force her into being a member of the big 3 have changed how she is portrayed. Superman and Batman naturally contrast, writers who are forced to write them as a trio tend to alter Wonder Woman so she works as a foil to both of them. That's why she's willing to kill now, the other two won't and it makes her different to them.
edited 27th Aug '13 11:14:18 AM by C0mraid
Am I a good man or a bad man?"Now"? Hasn't WW generally been less averse to killing than the others?
ERROR: The current state of the world is unacceptable. Save anyway? YES/NOI've had to double check because I'm not a big Wonder Woman fan. It seems that she's racked up more kills in the past than I thought, but almost all of the older ones fall under What Measure is a non-Human. But she was given the character trait of being more willing to kill than other heroes around a decade ago, and I'd argue that was mainly to contrast her with Bats and Supes.
edited 28th Aug '13 12:55:01 PM by C0mraid
Am I a good man or a bad man?Yeah, the last I checked, she killed off Deimos and Medusa, and not one person complained about it. Then everyone threw a hissy fit when she killed off Max Lord, a character who the writers and editors blatantly set up so that she more or less had to Shoot the Dog. Those are some pretty inconsistent values, if you ask me.
Oh, Equestria, we stand on guard for thee!I don't remember anyone complaining that she killed Lord. I do recall them complaining that DC handled it very badly, and this was in the wake of DC's mass murder spree prior to Infinite Crisis. He was just yet another character with a fan niche that was casually disposed of for narrative tension.
The characters' "Big Three" status is only partially about the figures they currently cut. It's also historical: they were the three major DC characters to keep appearing throughout the period between the Golden & Silver Ages, and to survive into the Silver Age without getting re-booted. That won't change, regardless of WW's fortunes as a character or a title.
I grew up on the Justice League cartoon, so for me Green Lantern translates to "Black Marine Guy". The rest are collectively labelled "The Other Green Lantern". Personally, I'd cheer John Stewart being one of the head honchos of DC.
I don't really know a whole bunch about Wonder Woman, but I feel her place as one of the Big 3 is more an obligatory position the company keeps her in out of habit.
I'm inclined to agree. It's not that she shouldn't be in the Big 3, it's that DC isn't giving her that importance. Meanwhile, Carol Danvers is lieutenant commander of the Avengers, and they're constantly trying to push her as a big deal within the Marvel Universe, and it looks like it's been paying off. Whereas Diana is just in her solo series and then Justice League, and they're not really trying to do much else with her.
And as much as I like Hal, the other G Ls always seemed more interesting. John was in the cartoon, so I already know what he's like. Guy's the funny one. Kyle, well, he's the one who makes Gurren Lagann burst forth from his ring, so you've gotta like him.
edited 4th Sep '13 9:01:14 PM by RedM
The very best, like no one ever was. Check out my Spider-Man fanfic here! [1]Kyle's the one who needs to keep his girlfriends away from large appliances.
X-Men X-Pert, my blog where I talk about X-Men comics.I think I know Kyle's least favorite Pokemon. It's Rotom
The very best, like no one ever was. Check out my Spider-Man fanfic here! [1]Well thats because out of universe fans recognized that she was written into a corner and the only way out was to kill him. So why should people complain that Wonder Woman as a character killed a guy? When the much more valid complaint of "the writers forced Wonder Woman into murdering someone for cheap shock" is present?
edited 6th Sep '13 2:50:52 PM by Canid117
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In the discussions I've shadowed, at least, the complaints are focused more about why anyone in-universe saw it as out-of-character for Diana, or, given the circumstances, why anyone in-universe who knew what actually happened (e.g. Batman) thought that she did the wrong thing. :P

Because if anything, Green Lantern has probably taken her place.
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