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theLibrarian Since: Jul, 2009
n341100 The stuff that dreams are made of. from R'lyeh Since: Nov, 2014 Relationship Status: What is this thing you call love?
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#2202: Apr 15th 2016 at 2:24:46 PM

Actually, the darkest Disney movie is Pulp Fiction.

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CDRW Since: May, 2016
#2203: Apr 15th 2016 at 2:57:59 PM

I remember watching Hunchback in the theater. My mom was just relieved that he didn't commit suicide in the end like he apparently did in the book.

n341100 The stuff that dreams are made of. from R'lyeh Since: Nov, 2014 Relationship Status: What is this thing you call love?
The stuff that dreams are made of.
#2204: Apr 15th 2016 at 3:14:31 PM

Well, kinda. In the book Esmeralda dies, so The Hunchback kills Frollo in retaliation. Than he lays next to her body, hugs her, and just kinda....stays there till he starves to death.

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CDRW Since: May, 2016
Lancelot07 Since: Apr, 2015
#2206: Apr 15th 2016 at 4:46:19 PM

For sure the film where the villain sings a song about how badly he wants to get laid.

theLibrarian Since: Jul, 2009
#2207: Apr 15th 2016 at 4:49:00 PM

Eh, it's Middle Ages Catholic Church.

Malco from the Gungeon Since: Oct, 2015
#2208: Apr 15th 2016 at 5:29:14 PM

Tarzan was kiiiinda dark. The first villain was genuinely scary, and gets killed. Eventually, a fairly important character dies on screen. The second villain's death was... extremely suspect.

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troperHearts Since: Oct, 2014
#2209: Apr 15th 2016 at 6:03:06 PM

I have to give Notre Dame some dark points for featuring a villain who isn't just evil, but genuinely believes that he is doing everything in God's name. That's actually scary.

Kinda like the killer from Se7en.

Berserker88 Since: Dec, 2010
#2210: Apr 15th 2016 at 6:24:26 PM

On the subject, I should point out that this movie is a perfect example of why darker does not necessarily mean better. The original concept was a lot darker than the final one, but it was changed because the dark setting took away from the story. Not something that happens often, but it sure is noticeable when it does.

theLibrarian Since: Jul, 2009
#2211: Apr 15th 2016 at 9:28:37 PM

Yeah, it looked really interesting but the racism angle, while it could probably have given us plenty of heartbreaking moments, also probably would have kept me from rooting for the city as well.

For instance, I would have liked to see Nick's relationship with his dad and him getting arrested for "threatening" a pair of lemmings (I still don't see how picking up the stamp they were holding and looking at them counts as that), then him trying to get it through Judy's head that the system she supports is a terrible miscarriage of justice, and a few other things, but the movie manages to be just as entertaining and filled with love and emotion as the other movie would have been, if not more so.

Fawriel Since: Jan, 2001
#2212: Apr 16th 2016 at 1:03:16 AM

The really interesting thing is how making it less dark actually made it more dark in a sense. It's like how in Pokemon, the first games' villains are just a bunch of criminals while later games all have crazy "destroy the world" kind of plots, but the former actually comes across as darker because the latter is so out of this world that it doesn't really register as bad. Original Zootopia had a more grim, disturbing take on racism, but the racism it shows now is, in a way, darker, because it's so much like the racism that we can actually experience in real life.

Lancelot07 Since: Apr, 2015
#2213: Apr 16th 2016 at 2:48:13 AM

Didn't a lot of Disney films originally have darker elements to them than how they ended up? In Bambi, the aftermath of the fire would have shown the churned remains of the hunter, in The Fox and the Hound, Chief would have died instead of just getting injured, in The Lion King 2, Zira would have committed suicide, etc. Just a few I recall at the top of my head. Granted, those were just parts of the story and not the whole thing.

edited 16th Apr '16 2:48:53 AM by Lancelot07

Berserker88 Since: Dec, 2010
#2214: Apr 16th 2016 at 2:49:38 AM

Yeah, but this feels more "we do what's best for the story" instead of "we do what doesn't frighten the children."

troperHearts Since: Oct, 2014
#2215: Apr 16th 2016 at 6:21:03 AM

If that's the case, they didn't do a very good job back then on keeping away things that give children nightmares.

And bringing us to that topic, which Disney villain gave your childhood nightmares?

edited 16th Apr '16 6:22:32 AM by troperHearts

theLibrarian Since: Jul, 2009
#2216: Apr 16th 2016 at 6:44:01 AM

Maleficent, more specifically her dragon form.

Demetrios Lucky Seven from Des Plaines, Illinois (unfortunately) Since: Oct, 2009 Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
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#2217: Apr 16th 2016 at 7:30:53 AM

I thought the dragon was pretty cool. It was the part where Maleficent appeared in the fireplace that scared me. surprised

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Berserker88 Since: Dec, 2010
#2218: Apr 16th 2016 at 8:02:36 AM

Zira always creeped me out a bit. She's just so freaky looking.

thatindiantroper Since: Feb, 2015
#2219: Apr 16th 2016 at 9:46:59 AM

None, but the villain from 'A troll in Central Park 'did.

Maybe what child me was really scared of was crap cartoons.

Sijo from Puerto Rico Since: Jan, 2001
#2220: Apr 16th 2016 at 10:32:00 AM

This may not count since it was a live-action movie (and Disney co-produced it with Paramount) but Dragonslayer really disappointed me; this was my first Fantasy movie, I was very excited to see it and I got a deconstruction instead. The scene where the princess gets eaten by the dragon hatchlings still haunts me to this day.

edited 16th Apr '16 10:32:33 AM by Sijo

Lancelot07 Since: Apr, 2015
#2221: Apr 16th 2016 at 1:53:29 PM

Any child, particularly Scandinavian or Finnish ones that grew up with the show will tell you that the scariest animated character they saw was The Groke from The Moomins. I still remember the nightmares she gave me, and all my friends. No Disney villain has ever come close of the same effect, at least not personally.

edited 16th Apr '16 1:56:49 PM by Lancelot07

theLibrarian Since: Jul, 2009
#2222: Apr 16th 2016 at 7:52:54 PM

Well, someone on Tumblr got a bit too creative.

You guys ever heard of The Boy In The Striped Pajamas?

n341100 The stuff that dreams are made of. from R'lyeh Since: Nov, 2014 Relationship Status: What is this thing you call love?
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#2223: Apr 16th 2016 at 9:57:31 PM

Oh god.... They didn't....

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troperHearts Since: Oct, 2014
TompaDompa from Sweden Since: Jan, 2012
#2225: Apr 17th 2016 at 1:47:09 AM

Would this be what you're talking about?

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