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Lymantria Tyrannoraptoran Reptiliomorph from Toronto Since: Apr, 2015 Relationship Status: Historians will say we were good friends.
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#3676: Jan 11th 2025 at 10:20:42 PM

Having loved the first film, I certainly do look forward to Zootopia 2 and its swinging open of the door to anthropomorphic non-mammals in the series. And of course coming out in the Year of the Snake is a plus.

I do, however, mildly resent it for one reason. One thing that Disney has announced around the same time, probably not coincidentally, is the seeming replacement of It's Tough to Be a Bug! with a Zootopia show. However good the latter may end up being, and whatever one may say about the former, I can’t ignore one fact even if Disney does: the show itself mentions that bugs make up over 80% of the animal kingdom, and how they often have a hard time. I think replacing it with a show about mammals and other vertebrates is missing the point.

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diyedas Since: Feb, 2010
#3677: Jan 12th 2025 at 4:40:45 PM

Considering A Bug's Life came out 20 some years ago and it being one of the least popular Pixar movies currently, I wouldn't be surprised if the attraction doesn't get much of a crowd anymore anyways. Zootopia however is still pretty fresh and it was wildly successful. Disney wanting to capitalize on their newer properties over something from the 90s that lost steam many years ago makes sense.

Also, as someone with arachnophobia and not really a fan of bugs in general, I'm not exactly sad to see it go. Not like I ever wanted to see that attraction anyways. Plus Zootopia is one of my favorites.

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#3678: Jan 12th 2025 at 5:36:42 PM

It is really strange that it's the Asian parks that took advantage of Zootopia early on.

Lymantria Tyrannoraptoran Reptiliomorph from Toronto Since: Apr, 2015 Relationship Status: Historians will say we were good friends.
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#3679: Jan 12th 2025 at 10:38:39 PM

[up][up] Yes, I get that, but hopefully you see my point. To be fair, I'm not as bug-phobic as many people - certainly I can handle looking at pictures of spiders. Also, cartoon bugs are probably more palatable than real ones for some.

Back on topic, one wonders how Fantastic Racism between mammals and reptiles will manifest in Zootopia 2. If at all, but I find it entirely possible.

Oh, and I wonder if reptiles in this universe can survive in cold areas or not. Maybe they’ll make a joke about that, or maybe they’ll show them as equally cold-tolerant as mammals with no explanation, but I prefer the former. Granted, anthropomorphic animals are presumably different from real ones in some ways, but there’s still plenty of material to draw from in reality.

Finally, I wonder if totally different species can breed in Zootopia. Obviously that wouldn’t be possible in reality, so maybe they could just adopt kids.

Edited by Lymantria on Jan 12th 2025 at 1:38:54 PM

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Snicka Since: Jun, 2011
#3680: Jan 12th 2025 at 10:44:28 PM

Finally, I wonder if totally different species can breed in Zootopia. Obviously that wouldn’t be possible in reality, so maybe they could just adopt kids.

One thing's for sure, they will not go the Beastars route where hybridization is possible even between mammals and reptiles, but the hybrid will suffer severe Body Horror, as that's a bit too gruesome for a Disney movie.

Lymantria Tyrannoraptoran Reptiliomorph from Toronto Since: Apr, 2015 Relationship Status: Historians will say we were good friends.
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#3681: Jan 12th 2025 at 11:26:11 PM

Did they address the issue of cross-specific pairings wanting kids in the first movie at all?

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#3682: Jan 12th 2025 at 11:28:18 PM

Back on topic, one wonders how Fantastic Racism between mammals and reptiles will manifest in Zootopia 2. If at all, but I find it entirely possible.

Given how Disney handles itself these days, I wouldn't be surprised if the theming around prejudice is completely removed for the sequel.

Snicka Since: Jun, 2011
#3683: Jan 12th 2025 at 11:36:51 PM

Did they address the issue of cross-specific pairings wanting kids in the first movie at all?

In Zootopia? No, every couple we see that has kids (the Ottertons, Judy's parents) are conspecifics. The only interspecific couple is the Oryx-Antlersons, and they are also a same-sex couple (and were confirmed to be a couple only via Word of God). Other than that, the only implication of Interspecies Romance was just some Ship Tease between Judy and Nick.

BlackStar55 Since: Sep, 2024
#3684: Jan 13th 2025 at 2:29:50 AM

[up][up] Maybe xenophobia is the theme that will handle? Besides, this movie has been in development for years, I don't think that it will be affected by Disney new standards.

Edited by BlackStar55 on Jan 13th 2025 at 8:12:45 AM

BlackStar55 Since: Sep, 2024
#3685: Jan 13th 2025 at 3:14:35 AM

Double post: Has anyone read the new comic of Zootopia that came out this month?

theLibrarian Since: Jul, 2009
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#3687: Jan 13th 2025 at 6:09:07 AM

> Given how Disney handles itself these days, I wouldn't be surprised if the theming around prejudice is completely removed for the sequel.

It wont be removed but it will be 'dulled' so to speak,less talk about about privilege and inequality and more talk about how Both Sides Have a Point and how Racism is bad And That's Terrible

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BlackStar55 Since: Sep, 2024
#3688: Jan 13th 2025 at 6:15:03 AM

Some friends of mine read the first issue of the comic, and they said that is actually pretty good. Maybe I should take a look at this after my birthday.

Edited by BlackStar55 on Jan 13th 2025 at 11:17:22 AM

HamburgerTime Since: Apr, 2010
#3689: Jan 13th 2025 at 7:30:28 AM

I keep hearing about how Disney is not doing "stories with messages" anymore, which many assume is a dog whistle for kissing the boots of the incoming far right US government, but I've never seen a source. Anyone know it?

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#3690: Jan 13th 2025 at 7:35:30 AM

[up]An article

"Chief Executive Officer Bob Iger said Wednesday he will no longer tolerate his company’s partners and creative team prioritizing messaging over storytelling"

So the 'no messages' thing has mutated from "prioritizing messaging over storytelling"

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HamburgerTime Since: Apr, 2010
#3691: Jan 13th 2025 at 7:47:25 AM

[up] Huh. This was long before the election, so that wasn't the direct cause, interesting.

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#3692: Jan 13th 2025 at 8:14:27 AM

There was also an article from the Hollywood Reporter about how Disney forced Pixar to remove any mentions of a character being trans Win or Lose, and one animator brought up their upcoming film Hoppers was being pressured to downplay their environmental messages as well.

According to a former Pixar artist, the team behind Hoppers, the 2026 Jon Hamm-led Pixar film focusing on a human and beaver who swap bodies, was forced to downplay its planned message of environmentalism. “Unfortunately, when you have your whole film based around the importance of environmentalism, you can’t really walk back on that,” says the artist who worked on the movie. “That team struggled a lot to figure out, ‘What do we even do with this note?'”

theLibrarian Since: Jul, 2009
#3693: Jan 13th 2025 at 10:57:25 AM

That was most definitely intended to try and avoid negative government attention, I imagine.

And considering that Zootopia 2 has been in the works for 8 years, I highly doubt it's put "messaging over storytelling."

BlackStar55 Since: Sep, 2024
#3694: Jan 13th 2025 at 5:41:52 PM

I heard rumors that the first teaser trailer of Zootopia 2 has been finished since November and was shown on a special event a few weeks ago. The release date of the teaser is unknown, but it is possible that it will be released in February, given that the teaser trailers of previous WDAS sequels were released in February.

Edited by BlackStar55 on Jan 13th 2025 at 10:44:47 AM

theLibrarian Since: Jul, 2009
#3695: Jan 14th 2025 at 9:58:17 AM

D23 did give people that were there a clip from the movie that was then leaked online but yeah, hopefully we'll get an actual teaser soon, especially since it's coming out in November.

Filip04 Since: Nov, 2023
#3696: Jan 19th 2025 at 2:47:22 PM

Today on my birthday I got this lovely crossover fanart with Gary and Mr. Snake.

And it seems like my theory about Zootopia 2 and The Bad Guys 2 becoming Friendly Fandoms is becoming true.

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#3697: Feb 5th 2025 at 3:20:28 PM

On a lark I grabbed the new Zootopia comic when I was at my local comic book shop this morning.

It’s the start of an arc so I can’t really judge the full story yet but it has a decent start.

Nick and Judy are put on crowd control at a new cellphone product launch. And because they’re main characters and cops, a crime happens. Someone set an incendiary bomb in a blimp delivering the new phones. Judy and Nick chase down the person who planted the device but he’s a patsy, a real bozo idiot who doesn’t know anything about who planned the crime or even what the crime was ahead of time.

Judy being grumpy about her assignment:

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theLibrarian Since: Jul, 2009
#3698: Feb 8th 2025 at 2:17:27 PM

Ah, yeah, I saw some pages of that put onto the Zootopia subreddit.

I hope we get a trailer for the new movie soon.

LucyVega23 from Mexico Since: Mar, 2016 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#3699: Feb 10th 2025 at 7:12:38 PM

I've been hearing a trailer would be release this month, but I'm not sure.

Snicka Since: Jun, 2011
#3700: Feb 10th 2025 at 10:48:01 PM

There was no TV spot released during Superbowl? That's surprising.


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