TVTropes Now available in the app store!
Open

Follow TV Tropes

Following

Global terrorism thread

Go To

So with the recent global terrorism alert I realised that we don't have a place to discuss such events as they happen and how they are being dealt with/reacted to.

    OP text (regarding events that were recent st the time) 
First however I'd like to lay down a disclaimer, this is not a place to discuss the ethics of the "war on terror" it's for talking about current global threats, if you want to debate the ethics of the war on terror than make a thread for it, this is not the place.

So now I've done that, here's the latest as I'm aware of it. Normally I'd provide sources but I'm on my iPad so it's difficult to do so.

US embassies across the Great Middle East are closed until Saturday due to the current threat, the embassies of other western nations in Yeman have also been closed with staff being evacuated from the county.

Additionally a global travel alert has been issued for all US citizens, with US/UK citizens in Yeman being told to leave immediately.

Yeman's security services have been placing much of the country on lockdown, with the army out in force due to intelligence indicating that a large number of Al-Qa'ida operatives are in the country to work on the expected attack.

They (Yeman's security forces) have also just recently announced that they have foiled an attempt by AQ to blow up several oil pipelines and seize control of costal cities, howev they remain on high alert, so there is obviously more to come.


Mod edit:
  • As of July 2024, the OTC Israel and Palestine thread is locked indefinitely and that discussion should not migrate to other threads. Discussion of terrorism or extrajudicial activity related to either of them (including speculation about a connection to them) is banned here.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 28th 2024 at 12:37:25 PM

FFShinra Since: Jan, 2001
#1451: Feb 3rd 2015 at 12:33:04 PM

[up][up]The French, however, will not likely send in troops. Jordan has avoided it due to the destabilizing nature of war on the weak Jordanian economy. However, with this....

TheHandle United Earth from Stockholm Since: Jan, 2012 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
United Earth
#1452: Feb 3rd 2015 at 12:36:41 PM

I'm going with them being just that stupid, terrorist have a tendency to think that blowing up a small part of their enemy will be a win, look at the Paris attacks. Terrorists rarely actually help their own cause with their actions, as the kind of people with proper long term tactical planning ability also tend to avoid becoming terrorists, those that do tend to have more realistic goals like "set myself up as a small warload and rule shit for a few years before legging it with a ton of money" as opposed to the standard "bring the West to its knees and establish a great empire".

Given how utterly self-defeating terrorist actions are, you can understand why people would assume they are false-flag operations; they functionally serve exactly that purpose, whether the perpetrators (and their sponsors?) are aware of it or not.

As for the latter part, there's been a few serious empire-builders/unifiers in the last century. Gamal Nasser comes to mind, bless his hypercompetent, fragile heart. His was a game of cleverness and manoeuvring, rather than one of violence and terror (although there was a little bit of that too, but hey).

Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that.
Gabrael from My musings Since: Nov, 2011 Relationship Status: Is that a kind of food?
#1453: Feb 3rd 2015 at 12:39:27 PM

Jordan is one of the few countries that has popular support. They are struggling, but the Jordanians are pretty happy with their government, so they could back their play if they chose to jump in the fight. But I highly doubt it will be traditional warfare in the sense of boots on the ground, more like bombing them from a distance.

Jordan can't do it alone though.

"Psssh. Even if you could catch a miracle on a picture any person would probably delete it to make space for more porn." - Aszur
AngelusNox Warder of the damned from The guard of the gates of oblivion Since: Dec, 2014 Relationship Status: Married to the job
Warder of the damned
#1454: Feb 3rd 2015 at 3:39:40 PM

The Jordanians are probably receiving US and "Beat" Israeli support for their air strike operations.

If I recall correctly the Jordanians use Block III F-16s supplied/sold by the US, Israel uses the same models of F-16s and is in quite friendly terms with Jordanians, so I wouldn't be surprised if they are providing spare parts or some sort of logistic support for them.

As far as I know the seizing of the Jordanian pilot by ISIL was an extreme case of bad luck, I don't think they shot it down as there is more evidence that the jet had a mid air engine failure and crashed due to it, sadly a bit unfortunate thing to happen on single engine planes specially over enemy terrain.

Inter arma enim silent leges
Iaculus Pronounced YAK-you-luss from England Since: May, 2010
Pronounced YAK-you-luss
#1455: Feb 3rd 2015 at 4:17:02 PM

Apparently, the Jordanian pilot was killed in January 3rd, shortly after he was captured, in an excess of murderous zeal. IS has been bluffing on an empty hand for an entire month.

What's precedent ever done for us?
Achaemenid HGW XX/7 from Ruschestraße 103, Haus 1 Since: Dec, 2011 Relationship Status: Giving love a bad name
HGW XX/7
#1456: Feb 3rd 2015 at 4:19:18 PM

There really are some people in this world for whom the GBU-39 Small Diameter Bomb was invented.

Schild und Schwert der Partei
Xopher001 Since: Jul, 2012
desdendelle Hooded Crow from Land of Milk and Honey (Sergeant) Relationship Status: Hiding
Gabrael from My musings Since: Nov, 2011 Relationship Status: Is that a kind of food?
#1459: Feb 3rd 2015 at 5:40:00 PM

[up][up] I agree with that approach.

"Psssh. Even if you could catch a miracle on a picture any person would probably delete it to make space for more porn." - Aszur
Krieger22 Causing freakouts over sourcing since 2018 from Malaysia Since: Mar, 2014 Relationship Status: I'm in love with my car
Causing freakouts over sourcing since 2018
#1460: Feb 3rd 2015 at 6:15:24 PM

I'm not sure I understand. Could you elaborate?

A fairly significant amount of people here sincerely believe that Islam is the only option the Middle East has to save itself from its current troubles, and that there must be some strong "defenders of the faith" to protect the ummah from the machinations of the West and the Zionists (to use what they call them here). Guess who ticks those boxes (technically)?

However, the brutality of Daesh has convinced those claiming that Daesh is a false flag organization that Daesh is actually an effort by the West or the Zionists to paint Islam and Muslims in the worst light imaginable to justify the continued subjugation of the Muslims of the Middle East.

I have disagreed with her a lot, but comparing her to republicans and propagandists of dictatorships is really low. - An idiot
Xopher001 Since: Jul, 2012
#1461: Feb 3rd 2015 at 6:18:45 PM

That's an awfully roundabout way of justifying the subjugation of muslims, and there's a lot of holes in it, notably that if anyone found out, countries like Japan and Jordan would have a bone to pick with the US. Any other weird conspiracy theories?

MayuZane I made my own avatar from SPACE Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Hoping Senpai notices me
I made my own avatar
#1462: Feb 3rd 2015 at 9:28:31 PM

There are numerous conspiracy theories, most of them just different variations of 'THE JEWS ARE BEHIND IT'

If you look through Liveleak, there are a lot of videos claiming that the USA is actually supporting the Daesh by air-dropping weapons supplies to them, with said airdrops disguised as missiles.

It is brain-meltingly stupid, but there ya go.

Reminds me of all the people who claimed the WTC was faked because America has Hollywood, masters of special effects (?????)

edited 3rd Feb '15 9:37:06 PM by MayuZane

Anybody want space lobsters?
Stratostygo3 The Harbinger of Chaos. from Dominion of Antarctica Since: Jul, 2013 Relationship Status: You cannot grasp the true form
The Harbinger of Chaos.
#1463: Feb 3rd 2015 at 9:52:08 PM

[up]

Well, I mean of course.

we all know hollywood had hyper-realistic dynamic 3D hologram effects and perfectly timed explosions in 2001.

edited 3rd Feb '15 9:52:31 PM by Stratostygo3

The world is inherently chaotic no amount of religion, conspiracy or wishful thinking will change that, accept it, and move on.
Ekuran Since: Feb, 2010 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
#1464: Feb 3rd 2015 at 11:20:06 PM

Yeah, that Oculus Rift version 9.11 they jacked from the future has insanely realistic cancer settings, man.

edited 3rd Feb '15 11:20:35 PM by Ekuran

pagad Sneering Imperialist from perfidious Albion Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
Sneering Imperialist
#1465: Feb 4th 2015 at 12:43:00 AM

The Jordanian pilot wasn't just killed, he was apparently burned alive in a cage, though the footage is still being verified.

With cannon shot and gun blast smash the alien. With laser beam and searing plasma scatter the alien to the stars.
betaalpha betaalpha from England Since: Jan, 2001
betaalpha
#1466: Feb 4th 2015 at 12:53:50 AM

Jordan have responded by hanging the female suicide bomber and another jihadist. They have also promised an "earthshaking" response.

edited 4th Feb '15 3:53:08 AM by betaalpha

pagad Sneering Imperialist from perfidious Albion Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
Sneering Imperialist
#1467: Feb 4th 2015 at 12:59:52 AM

If this was an attempt at intimidating Jordan into stepping down from the coalition, it seems to be an exceptionally poor one.

With cannon shot and gun blast smash the alien. With laser beam and searing plasma scatter the alien to the stars.
Medinoc from France (Before Recorded History)
#1468: Feb 4th 2015 at 1:11:38 AM

Well, ever since they demanded $200M from Japan, I wondered how much white phosphorus you can buy with this.

"And as long as a sack of shit is not a good thing to be, chivalry will never die."
Greenmantle V from Greater Wessex, Britannia Since: Feb, 2010 Relationship Status: Hiding
V
#1469: Feb 4th 2015 at 1:29:56 AM

A rather straight-to-the-point response by Jordan, that.

Keep Rolling On
Ominae Since: Jul, 2010
#1470: Feb 4th 2015 at 1:31:05 AM

Japan's not getting any response to ISIS except to speed up more money.

Protests are taking place with slogans like "No Military Force".

AngelusNox Warder of the damned from The guard of the gates of oblivion Since: Dec, 2014 Relationship Status: Married to the job
betaalpha betaalpha from England Since: Jan, 2001
betaalpha
#1472: Feb 4th 2015 at 5:17:09 AM

[up]Also, his hatred and desire for retribution closely mirrors Daesh's own. Though at least he only desires the destruction of the organisation and 'none of them amongst us be kept alive' - check this lovely statement out at the bottom of the article:

'Vile murder'

Al-Azhar, Sunni Islam's most prestigious centre of learning, has called for the killing and crucifixion of ISIL fighters, expressing outrage over their murder of the pilot.

In a statement after the burning alive of Kassasbeh, the Cairo-based centre called for the "killing, crucifixion and chopping off the limbs of Islamic State terrorists".

Yeah, the abyss is gazing quite hard into you there guys.

edited 4th Feb '15 5:21:21 AM by betaalpha

Batter from Singapore Since: Nov, 2013 Relationship Status: Hugging my pillow
#1473: Feb 4th 2015 at 5:29:30 AM

...how much deeper can they dig themselves. Just...how.

GBU-39 Small Diameter Bomb
Do elaborate. (I read the wiki but the only thought I got from it is gliding bomb)

TheHandle United Earth from Stockholm Since: Jan, 2012 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
United Earth
#1474: Feb 4th 2015 at 5:30:51 AM

... them Al-Azhar scholar types are supposed to be classy 'n shit...

Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that.
Iaculus Pronounced YAK-you-luss from England Since: May, 2010
Pronounced YAK-you-luss
#1475: Feb 4th 2015 at 5:32:56 AM

Perhaps realising that they're slipping unacceptably far behind in the evil rankings, Assad's Syrian regime have also started setting prisoners on fire and filming it. There's a video, but no fuck you I'm not linking it.

What's precedent ever done for us?

Total posts: 10,639
Top