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So with the recent global terrorism alert I realised that we don't have a place to discuss such events as they happen and how they are being dealt with/reacted to.

    OP text (regarding events that were recent st the time) 
First however I'd like to lay down a disclaimer, this is not a place to discuss the ethics of the "war on terror" it's for talking about current global threats, if you want to debate the ethics of the war on terror than make a thread for it, this is not the place.

So now I've done that, here's the latest as I'm aware of it. Normally I'd provide sources but I'm on my iPad so it's difficult to do so.

US embassies across the Great Middle East are closed until Saturday due to the current threat, the embassies of other western nations in Yeman have also been closed with staff being evacuated from the county.

Additionally a global travel alert has been issued for all US citizens, with US/UK citizens in Yeman being told to leave immediately.

Yeman's security services have been placing much of the country on lockdown, with the army out in force due to intelligence indicating that a large number of Al-Qa'ida operatives are in the country to work on the expected attack.

They (Yeman's security forces) have also just recently announced that they have foiled an attempt by AQ to blow up several oil pipelines and seize control of costal cities, howev they remain on high alert, so there is obviously more to come.


Mod edit:
  • As of July 2024, the OTC Israel and Palestine thread is locked indefinitely and that discussion should not migrate to other threads. Discussion of terrorism or extrajudicial activity related to either of them (including speculation about a connection to them) is banned here.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 28th 2024 at 12:37:25 PM

Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#1426: Feb 2nd 2015 at 8:29:54 AM

A lot of the Gulf states are conscience that the oil days won't last forever, and have been investing in the tech and service industries so their economies have a replacement.

Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects.
AngelusNox Warder of the damned from The guard of the gates of oblivion Since: Dec, 2014 Relationship Status: Married to the job
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#1427: Feb 2nd 2015 at 8:44:01 AM

Yeah, but for that you need an educated society and stimulates free thought.

Specially on Tech business since for it to succeed it needs scientists, engineers and even other liberal studies professionals to make it work and relate to people.

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FFShinra Since: Jan, 2001
#1428: Feb 2nd 2015 at 10:15:17 AM

Which they are doing. It's just they won't be ethnically Arab, though they'll still be citizens. At least in the UAE and Bahrain. Probably Qatar and Kuwait too. Saudia is a bit of a different beast (as always) and Oman, which never had too much oil by comparison to the rest of the Gulf, already has a fairly developed industry, and a fairly free gov't to handle it.

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#1429: Feb 2nd 2015 at 2:33:37 PM

Good for them!

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Achaemenid HGW XX/7 from Ruschestraße 103, Haus 1 Since: Dec, 2011 Relationship Status: Giving love a bad name
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#1430: Feb 2nd 2015 at 2:41:15 PM

Fun fact: the Sultan of Oman also has a pipes and drums.

edited 2nd Feb '15 2:41:29 PM by Achaemenid

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#1431: Feb 2nd 2015 at 2:43:45 PM

That's a bit surreal, in a really cool way.

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AngelusNox Warder of the damned from The guard of the gates of oblivion Since: Dec, 2014 Relationship Status: Married to the job
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#1432: Feb 3rd 2015 at 5:45:57 AM

http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2015/02/chad-forces-launch-fierce-assault-boko-haram-150203071007658.html

http://www.aljazeera.com/news/middleeast/2015/02/isil-loses-key-iraqi-city-government-forces-150203093642268.html

Those bastards are on the run and losing more and more ground now that they face a real fighting force instead of unarmed civilians and poorly trained militias.

The cries of ISIL and BH fanboys is wonderful.

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#1433: Feb 3rd 2015 at 6:10:58 AM

[up]I wouldn't cheer the Badr Brigade too hard - they're the Iraqi Ministry of the Interior's pet Iranian death squads. Now is not a good time to be a Sunni in Diyala.

What's precedent ever done for us?
Krieger22 Causing freakouts over sourcing since 2018 from Malaysia Since: Mar, 2014 Relationship Status: I'm in love with my car
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#1435: Feb 3rd 2015 at 7:14:10 AM

People believing that Daesh is a false flag op: I have no idea how any modern First World government or intelligence service can order the closest thing humanity has had to a Chaotic Evil organization about, have their orders followed and not get caught. Of course, this probably ties in to my prior statement that people believe that so-and-so is a false flag op because they share their beliefs yet cannot believe that someone would actually practice them.

And if it were true, I really would not know whether laughing at the jihadists for falling for it hook, line and sinker would be appropriate.

I don't think I should spend more time on the Malaysian Internet than I already do.

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FFShinra Since: Jan, 2001
#1436: Feb 3rd 2015 at 7:17:01 AM

[up]You should try reading the Pakistani military forums. There are people there who think the Peshawar massacre was masterminded by Afghan Intelligence and their paymasters at RAW. Sometimes with the CIA and Mossad thrown in for good measure.

Krieger22 Causing freakouts over sourcing since 2018 from Malaysia Since: Mar, 2014 Relationship Status: I'm in love with my car
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#1437: Feb 3rd 2015 at 7:31:33 AM

[up]Is it bad that the first thing that I thought of was "Afghan Intelligence is a thing and not an oxymoron?" How do they fare compared to the ISI and co.?

Hyderabadi woman joins Daesh, sees conditions, changes mind and returns home. The Hyderabadi police chief denies any knowledge of the incident.

I have disagreed with her a lot, but comparing her to republicans and propagandists of dictatorships is really low. - An idiot
FFShinra Since: Jan, 2001
#1438: Feb 3rd 2015 at 7:37:45 AM

They have an axe to grind and seem to want to use the Taliban against Pakistan...but whether they are as yet competent enough to do so is entirely up in the air. And the CIA certainly would rather NOT have Pakistan destabilized if only because they fear what might happen to the nukes. RAW as well.

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#1439: Feb 3rd 2015 at 7:55:11 AM

As I have already said: all the defense forums are full of weirdos.

"I remember when I was in the Selous Scouts, Broadsword calling Danny Boy, Samora Machel's plane etc" when they all probably live with their mothers and their worryingly large collection of mall-ninja equipment.

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#1440: Feb 3rd 2015 at 7:58:53 AM

[up][up] I'm sure if Pakistan ever falls into the hands of Islamists the CIA and USAF have several plans and procedures to turn every single nuclear warhead and launch site in Pakistan into parking lots and big craters.

Pakistan is only an "ally" because the consequences of having a nuclear armed backwards country and full of Islamic extremists with a bone to pick with India isn't something the Americans are willing to deal with and go unchecked.

edited 3rd Feb '15 8:03:47 AM by AngelusNox

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FFShinra Since: Jan, 2001
#1441: Feb 3rd 2015 at 8:34:52 AM

[up]Not as easy as you think. Pakistanis are many things, but being fools is not one of them.

[up][up]I fully agree. Sadly though, some of those guys are current and former military, and coupled with what one sees in Pakistani media, it seems the view is more widely spread than I'm comfortable with. Given that every 1 in 180 people serve the military there, it's not much of a surprise.

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#1442: Feb 3rd 2015 at 9:10:33 AM

IS have just put a video on the web claiming to show the Jordanian pilot being burned alive.

And I thought these guys couldn't get any more barbaric...

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#1443: Feb 3rd 2015 at 10:05:21 AM

I think a blanket rule should be imposed. If Da'esh has kidnapped someone, you can assume they are deadmen walking unless you rescue them. Forget negotiations.

AngelusNox Warder of the damned from The guard of the gates of oblivion Since: Dec, 2014 Relationship Status: Married to the job
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#1444: Feb 3rd 2015 at 10:10:02 AM

[up][up]

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=6e0_1422982365 [NSFW]

Welp. The guy was a prince, I think Jordan will make their support a lot more overt now.

Decapitation with a dull knife vs burned alive, surely wonderfully quick and painless ways to die.

edited 3rd Feb '15 10:11:27 AM by AngelusNox

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#1445: Feb 3rd 2015 at 11:03:49 AM

[up][up]That should probably be amended to: if you're a high profile foreign kidnapee you're almost certainly dead. Daesh used to (and probably still does) make a steady income from kidnap ransoms, according to their Wikipedia article (I've read other articles about it too). There are a number of countries that do pay ransoms, and in those that don't, individuals may pay them anyway. Here's a list of some of them, though the ransoms mentioned were to groups like Al Qaeda rather than Daesh.

About their torturing the Jordanian pilot to death: yep, they're sick puppies who are clearly most interested in recruiting other sick puppies (and terrifying everyone else to join or otherwise give in to them).

edited 3rd Feb '15 11:28:36 AM by betaalpha

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#1446: Feb 3rd 2015 at 12:13:30 PM

Dead I get, but I admit that I wasn't expecting burned alive.

“And the Bunny nails it!” ~ Gabrael “If the UN can get through a day without everyone strangling everyone else so can we.” ~ Cyran
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#1447: Feb 3rd 2015 at 12:16:37 PM

They really really REALLY want Jordan to enter this war. Suicidal Overconfidence...

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#1448: Feb 3rd 2015 at 12:17:33 PM

Jordan is one of the stronger countries in that area aren't they?

Are they trying to commit suicide or?

Oh really when?
Silasw A procrastination in of itself from A handcart to hell (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
A procrastination in of itself
#1449: Feb 3rd 2015 at 12:29:01 PM

I'm going with them being just that stupid, terrorist have a tendency to think that blowing up a small part of their enemy will be a win, look at the Paris attacks. Terrorists rarely actually help their own cause with their actions, as the kind of people with proper long term tactical planning ability also tend to avoid becoming terrorists, those that do tend to have more realistic goals like "set myself up as a small warload and rule shit for a few years before legging it with a ton of money" as opposed to the standard "bring the West to its knees and establish a great empire".

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#1450: Feb 3rd 2015 at 12:30:49 PM

because they share their beliefs yet cannot believe that someone would actually practice them.

I'm not sure I understand. Could you elaborate?

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