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Nohbody "In distress", my ass. from Somewhere in Dixie Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Mu
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#176: Apr 9th 2016 at 8:22:18 PM

Ok. I had thought that we were retaining SHM, but if that's not to remain then I can start in on the background stuff, including the YKTTW for the YMMV trope page (apparently even TRS-generated pages need to go through YKTTW, as creating a new trope page always gets sent straight to the YKTTW input screen).

edited 9th Apr '16 8:23:23 PM by Nohbody

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Nohbody "In distress", my ass. from Somewhere in Dixie Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Mu
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#178: Apr 9th 2016 at 8:52:07 PM

Should Stop Helping Me be used as a redirect to either page?

Nohbody "In distress", my ass. from Somewhere in Dixie Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Mu
"In distress", my ass.
#179: Apr 9th 2016 at 8:54:42 PM

I don't think so. A disambiguation page, maybe, but the reason for the split in the first place still applies: SHM mixes YMMV and non-YMMV together. Having SHM redirect to either of the pages doesn't help unmix the two.

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Nohbody "In distress", my ass. from Somewhere in Dixie Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Mu
"In distress", my ass.
#181: Apr 14th 2016 at 4:54:29 PM

Annoying Video Game Helper reached the required 5 hats in YKTTW, so I launched it. Working on indexing, wicks, and so forth.

Please help with Stop Helping Me, changing it to either Unwanted Assistance for In-Universe unhelpers or AVGH for player annoyances.

edited 14th Apr '16 4:54:41 PM by Nohbody

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Nohbody "In distress", my ass. from Somewhere in Dixie Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Mu
"In distress", my ass.
#182: Apr 14th 2016 at 6:14:44 PM

Finished up to and including "An-" wicks on Stop Helping Me, stopping now before my brain melts and fingers revolt. tongue

edited 14th Apr '16 6:14:55 PM by Nohbody

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Berrenta How sweet it is from Texas Since: Apr, 2015 Relationship Status: Can't buy me love
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#183: Jun 2nd 2016 at 11:20:41 AM

Bumping to check on progress. We currently have about 1000 wicks to go.

Also, cutlisting the sandbox for Annoying Video Game Helper, since it is now in Main.

edited 2nd Jun '16 11:25:31 AM by Berrenta

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Berrenta How sweet it is from Texas Since: Apr, 2015 Relationship Status: Can't buy me love
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#184: Jun 2nd 2016 at 12:41:34 PM

Also, since the split tropes are in Main, Stop Helping Me is converted to a disambiguation page. Will cutlist its subpages.

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#185: Jun 27th 2016 at 6:38:45 AM

There's a locked page with a reference to Stop Helping Me in it: Made Of Win Archive Late 2009 ...Is a moderator going to need to fix that?

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#186: Jun 27th 2016 at 6:49:43 AM

That's an archive, so no.

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#187: Jun 29th 2016 at 11:57:36 AM

Shoot...I've never done this before; I've been cleaning up the wicks I find on this page, starting with L and going forwards from there:

https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/relatedsearch.php?term=Main/StopHelpingMe

But when I got to this OzieBoo page, I found that Stop Helping Me was the only entry on the YMMV page for that work. And since that example would fall under the Unwanted Assistance fork of that trope, I think I'm supposed to take it out of the YMMV page and put it in the Western Animation page, but then YMMV would be completely empty...what's the right thing to do in this scenario? Is there a way to erase a YMMV page altogether?

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longWriter Since: Apr, 2012
longWriter Since: Apr, 2012
#190: Aug 10th 2016 at 7:58:28 AM

Down to under 300 wicks! grin

Two questions:

1) There are a couple of links that lead to disambiguation pages when I run a search on Stop Helping Me, but when I check the pages that the disambiguation page links to, there aren't any examples of Stop Helping Me. Ravenwood Fair at the bottom is a good example of that. What, if anything, should we do about those?

I'll add a link to the search for convenience: https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/relatedsearch.php?term=Main/StopHelpingMe

2) There's this "I Read That As" page (again, nearly the bottom as of the time I write this) that contains links to "Stop Helping Me". What's the policy on those pages when a trope gets split up? Do we erase the examples or just leave them in place?

longWriter Since: Apr, 2012
#191: Aug 29th 2016 at 9:25:14 AM

Bumping this; I have another question on top the last two:

There's a Just Trying to Help trope, which kind of seems redundant with Unwanted Assistance. Should we talk about merging them? Or is that something we'd need another thread to discuss?

Berrenta How sweet it is from Texas Since: Apr, 2015 Relationship Status: Can't buy me love
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#193: Sep 21st 2016 at 11:43:25 AM

...Whew! Just about all the examples are gone except the ones that can't/shouldn't be erased:

https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/relatedsearch.php?term=Main/StopHelpingMe

What's the next step?

Berrenta How sweet it is from Texas Since: Apr, 2015 Relationship Status: Can't buy me love
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#194: Sep 23rd 2016 at 8:04:34 AM

I'll handle the ghost wicks.

Edit: Okay, note was left on discussion. Rename was already noted in the proper thread, so I guess we can put this thread to rest.

edited 23rd Sep '16 8:14:32 AM by Berrenta

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