The Three Faces of Eve is an ensemble of the three archetypes of Seductress, Child, and Wife. The Hecate Sisters is an ensemble of the three archetypes of Maiden, Mother, and Crone. Can you be more specific about what you want to know about Three Successful Generations and Four-Girl Ensemble? The Three Faces Of Adam is a mess. We tried to fix it once. That's when Three Successful Generations and Mentor's New Hope were started.
Three Faces Of Adam was pretty someone much deciding that since The Hecate Sisters & Three Faces of Eve exist, and must be female, there had to be a Spear Counterpart for male characters, and tried to fabricate one out of thin air. It was ill-defined from the very beginning.
edited 28th Jun '13 10:48:24 PM by Madrugada
Three Amigos is about a group of three friends; two are the same gender and one is the opposite.
Two Guys and a Girl is about a Love Triangle between two guys and a girl who are friends.
edited 28th Jun '13 1:44:29 PM by macronnotes
Macron's notes@2 — I see, the examples got me confused on The Hecate Sisters and The Three Faces of Eve,
some of the examples are part of a bigger group or don't really team up too often in universe.
regarding the generation and adam tropes, the question was "is it an ensemble or a pattern?",
because if it's a pattern then it should be nearly omnipresent, and yet it is not.
@3 — I see.
@4 — The roles for Three Amigos seem to be overly specific in the description,
and don't seem very flexible if adhered to strictly(e.g. can't have the girl as Hero?).
also, Three Amigos say "romance will be explored"(so it can turn to Two Guys and a Girl ensemble?),
and Two Guys and a Girl laconic implies that the ensemble works by having conflict within the trio,
so does that imply Three Amigos remain smooth sailing throughout the story?.
edited 28th Jun '13 9:30:12 PM by ShanghaiSlave
Is dast der Zerstorer? Odar die Schopfer?The sisters and eve don't need to team up as long as there's something that unites them. The Hecate Sisters are generally daughter, mother, and grandmother. The Three Faces of Eve are often the three women fighting for the attention of the male protagonist. If the characters are no more united than any other characters in the story they probably don't fit the trope. Three Successful Generations is not omnipresent. It happens as often as three individuals, perhaps son, father, and grandfather, each go about making something of themselves. In this context how does an ensemble differ from a pattern? I like Four-Girl Ensemble. I know the description is brief but I don't know what else there is to say about it.
edited 28th Jun '13 9:47:16 PM by lexicon
@ 6 lexicon — I see, so as long as there is common them on Sisters and Eve.
And Eve requires fighting for the protagonist? o_O the description doesn't seem to say that.
on generations... i was not aware there was a mass cleanup, there's nothing confusing about it now.
the Four-Girl Ensemble examples is where I get lost. the cleanupnote makes it even more confusing. it seems to be a very flexible trope the only constants seem to be that there has to be a: Airhead, Unreadable character, Tomboy, Feminine girl. is that right?
I don't think Three Amigos is overly restrictive. It just has a generic-sounding name.
@5 The "romance will be explored" line on The Three Amigos needs to be changed. Romance isn't always seen in the examples. I also don't see anything saying where the hero can't be a girl and it doesnt seem restrictive too me. As for Two Guys and a Girl, I'll say that The Three Amigos can have conflict but it doesn't tend to last long and it's not a defining trait in the relationship. The descriptions of the two tropes should try to better clarify the difference between the two tropes.
Macron's notesNo, the fighting is not required, but the three are very feminine in good and desirable ways so there's often romance and there's often a single male protagonist.
In Four-Girl Ensemble the naive girl isn't necessarily an airhead. I personally haven't seen any examples where she's The Ditz, (though it would be possible) but instead I've often seen shy or perhaps outgoingly sweet. The manish one is often a tomboy. By feminine you mean sexy and unreadable is the admirable one, right?
In Four-Girl Ensemble the sexy one is usually an attention seeker and feminine in a mature sort of way. What do you mean when you call the admirable one unreadable?
then that means the Yuru Yuri and Lucky Star entries were shoehorned. as both toshino kyoko and Konata seemed to have been "the admireable one". yeah, i'm referring to this trope soley by anime examples.
anway, anyone got an idea on the rest of the questions? i feel like we're heading into Single Issue Wank here.
edited 2nd Jul '13 4:07:23 AM by ShanghaiSlave
Is dast der Zerstorer? Odar die Schopfer?Geodesic Cast is sort of a subtype of Cast Herd, as I understand it, where each herd has a similar structure or internal dynamic - five different power trios, for instance. (I'm mot sure that the Geodesic Cast picture is actually an example, since by the time you get to 'each has three trolls' it starts to look kind of shoehorned.)
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...looking at the trope pictures, the one in Cast Herd is seems to be a clearer example of Geodesic Cast, based on what you said. the Naruto teams are all consistently Power Trio plus a Mentor. on Cast Herd, the One Piece pirate crews would be one of the best example then? since as far as i know tho only thing consistent about them is they are pirates, the number of group members seem to vary.
If that's the case, yes. I don't know much about either series. You could bring it up in Image Picking.
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i've watched a few eps of Naruto and VERY few eps of One Piece, so i'm not very familiar with either myself. but those two tropes are readily apparent on both due to how the character entries are grouped in This Wiki. anyway, not sure i'm up to that at the moment. anyway, Geodesic Cast and Cast Herd are clear to me now. only a few more left with The Magnificent Seven Samurai being the one i would really like cleared up.
edited 18th Jul '13 3:21:12 AM by ShanghaiSlave
Is dast der Zerstorer? Odar die Schopfer?I've never been entirely certain about this either. Is it an ensemble trope or a Stock Shout-Out to the trope namer(s)?

So, what the title says, anyway
- What happened to Six Student Clique? i saw it's thread in Zzz, and from what I gather it's sort of not really tropable/just a Five-Man Band + Sixth Ranger and doesn't really have its own dynamic?
- just what is
- What is the difference between Three Amigos and Two Guys and a Girl? the descriptions on both ain't really helping me.
- What exactly is Four-Girl Ensemble?
- What exactly is The Magnificent Seven Samurai? the description says it's both a stock plot and an ensemble. but the ensemble part is pretty confusing. what exactly are the requirements for the ensemble? the roles and age or just the roles?
EDIT:The Hecate Sisters&The Three Faces of Eve? is it an ensemble or just archetypes present in a work?same goes with The Three Faces of Adam and
Three Successful Generations.Can Geodesic Cast contain Cast Herd but not vice versa?EDIT: wikiworded some stuff.
crossed outcleared stuffedited 18th Jul '13 3:19:25 AM by ShanghaiSlave
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