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HailMuffins Thoroughly unimpressed from Ceará, Brazil Relationship Status: How YOU doin'?
Thoroughly unimpressed
Aug 3rd 2019 at 10:20:31 AM

[up],[up][up]Fair, it's just that there is this persistent narrative, cooked up by a bunch of college professors from the 70's and 80's, that Paraguay was, well, exactly what I've said in my last post, and if Brazil hadn't wrecked the place up, Paraguay would've elevated South America to the same level of power and prestige that Europe and the US enjoy today.

I am not making an iota of this up, one of my high-school history teachers said this almost verbatim.

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Aug 3rd 2019 at 7:55:53 PM

[up]x7 Oceania hasn't had any wars (not counting the Japanese Invasions of World War 2), but that's probably because they are much less populated than any of the other inhabited continents in the world and are disconnected from each other by water (every country in that continent being an island). The only country connected to another by land there is Papua New Guinea with Indonesia.

Edited by CookingCat on Aug 3rd 2019 at 7:56:33 AM

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Aug 3rd 2019 at 10:04:54 PM

I'll be honest, I completely forgot Oceania was a continent. But, like you said, it is mostly isolated islands, and it's younger than South America, so it's undersstandable that there haven't been that many conflicts there.

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Aug 3rd 2019 at 10:16:41 PM

If Kazuya is to be believed, Peru couldn't organize a birthday party without a corruption scandal breaking out and people dying on a human stampede over the lack of snacks.

We couldn't launch a war against Brazil even if we all were organizated. We're too weak for that.

Bolivia is too underdeveloped to try, thought if they were, that truly would be a wonder (in the Nightmare Fetishist way) to see. Evo vs Bolsonaro. Native American Left Winger authoritarian vs Generic White Racist Right wing authoritarian.

Peruvian General Velasco and Chilean Augusto Pinochet would see the battle from the afterlife and then, their section in hell will break up in a new war.

[up][up] I should do a book about the hilarious lies told for Left Wing teachers, it would be reasonably long.

Edited by KazuyaProta on Aug 3rd 2019 at 12:23:13 PM

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Aug 4th 2019 at 7:14:20 AM

The Paraguayan War was hardly the "last" South American war. The Chaco War between Bolivia and Paraguay and the War of the Pacific between Chile, Peru and Bolivia surely warrant a mention.

HailMuffins Thoroughly unimpressed from Ceará, Brazil Relationship Status: How YOU doin'?
Thoroughly unimpressed
Aug 4th 2019 at 7:21:12 AM

[up]It just kinda overshadows the other thanks to being the biggest armed conflict in the continent by a fair margin.

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Heatth from Brasil Relationship Status: In Spades with myself
Aug 6th 2019 at 3:33:12 PM

Oceania hasn't had any wars (not counting the Japanese Invasions of World War 2), but that's probably because they are much less populated than any of the other inhabited continents in the world and are disconnected from each other by water (every country in that continent being an island). The only country connected to another by land there is Papua New Guinea with Indonesia.

You are forgeting East Timor, which was annexed by Indonesia in the 70s, only gaining independence in 1999.

I'll be honest, I completely forgot Oceania was a continent.

To be fair, Oceania is not a "continent" by traditional definitions and it is often left aside of any list in favor of Australia. I am not saying Oceania isn't a continent, mind you. The term is too vague to warrant a semantic discussion about it.

Edited by Heatth on Aug 6th 2019 at 7:35:23 AM

Aug 8th 2019 at 7:37:25 PM

[up] East Timor is usually considered Southeast Asian, not Oceania.

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Aug 8th 2019 at 8:03:45 PM

Also, as general thing, latin america is very anti intervertion, I mean there is a reason lima group is taking so long about venezuela: the idea of taking another country feel wrong to us.

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HailMuffins Thoroughly unimpressed from Ceará, Brazil Relationship Status: How YOU doin'?
Thoroughly unimpressed
Aug 14th 2019 at 5:26:15 AM

Even the Globo, (who was crucial in his rise to power, BTW) is calling out Bolsonaro for his unbelieviably lack of decorum and unprofessional behavior.

That's a new low, ain't it? Even his own base is starting to get sick of him.

And while it is pretty old news, as someone who really wants to work on the foreign Ministry, I think Imma put those plans on hold if the man is reelected.

Edited by HailMuffins on Aug 14th 2019 at 9:29:53 AM

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KusaMigeru Interesting Person #928 from AAAAAAAMAAAAAAZOOOOOOON Relationship Status: Hooked on a feeling
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Aug 14th 2019 at 9:41:12 AM

I mean, he trampled over every big diplomat who was just waiting for a promotion to the US and this is blatant nepotism. The promise of rescuing morality in politics just flew off the window for many of his sympathizers (because the rest never really believed in it).

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Gaon Smoking Snake from Grim Up North Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
Aug 14th 2019 at 10:21:15 AM

The only thing that is mildly amusing about the Bolsonaro government is, indeed, how blatantly corrupt and nepotistic it is after running on the whole "PT are nepotistic crooks!". You can tell even his supporters are a bit flatfooted about the whole "let's put my son as the US diplomat" and his justification of "course I'm going to be nepotistic don't be an idiot", which are both far more nepotism than the Lula or Dilma administrations ever even dreamed of showing.

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HailMuffins Thoroughly unimpressed from Ceará, Brazil Relationship Status: How YOU doin'?
Thoroughly unimpressed
Aug 14th 2019 at 10:32:45 AM

The sheer audacity of the move is almost admirable, really.

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Aug 14th 2019 at 1:57:16 PM

Yeah, unlike Trump who thinks he won and Is justified, bolso Is More "well yeah, i dont Care, what do you expect"

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Aug 14th 2019 at 2:05:57 PM

At the risk of repeating myself, this was all quite predictable, really. Nepotism has been the name of the game for Bolsonaro from the start, otherwise his sons probably wouldn't be in politics to begin with.

It's the end of the world as we know it, and I feel fine. ...not really though.
TheLovecraftian Relationship Status: Seeking boyfriend-free girl
Aug 21st 2019 at 5:31:22 AM

So, anybody else's city get engulfed in huge smoke clouds the last few days? It happened over here, and at my family's city as well. Whole day, covered by huge clouds, making everything look yellow. Brasília itself got covered as well.

HailMuffins Thoroughly unimpressed from Ceará, Brazil Relationship Status: How YOU doin'?
Thoroughly unimpressed
Aug 21st 2019 at 5:42:29 AM

There the occasional fire here over about every month, but it's never city-wide and it is probably not what you mean.

Edited by HailMuffins on Aug 21st 2019 at 9:42:43 AM

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KusaMigeru Interesting Person #928 from AAAAAAAMAAAAAAZOOOOOOON Relationship Status: Hooked on a feeling
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Aug 21st 2019 at 6:00:43 AM

We've been covered in clouds for the past few days, but they don't look very different from normal clouds. I assume it's just a cold front and we're not in the way of the "smoke alley" down here.

That said, this is kind of expected. And this is still the first year.

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Gaon Smoking Snake from Grim Up North Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
Aug 21st 2019 at 2:46:57 PM

They are, of course, the result of the fact Bolsonaro is destroying the Amazon at a pace not seen since the dictatorship days.

So, in essence, foreboding black clouds showed up because a unshackled madman is allowing mother nature to be butchered.

All we're missing is a druid showing up and ranting about how the omens are clear of our doom.

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Aug 21st 2019 at 2:52:38 PM

And in typical fashion, Bolso is blaming the ONG of this, the guy really have no shame, isnt?.

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HailMuffins Thoroughly unimpressed from Ceará, Brazil Relationship Status: How YOU doin'?
Thoroughly unimpressed
Aug 21st 2019 at 2:55:11 PM

At this point I'm 100% certain the man believes every thing that comes off his disgusting mouth.

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TheLovecraftian Relationship Status: Seeking boyfriend-free girl
Aug 21st 2019 at 2:57:42 PM

I mean, we don't know for sure that it's related to him. It might just be a massive, uncontrolled forest fire.

One that comes a few weeks after he fired the head of the agency that took care of these issues.

In an year that has had more fires than any year in the last decade while still being in August.

After Bolsonaro basically married the department of the environment to a guy who takes care of agro-industrial matters.

And incentivizing farmers and loggers to deforestate (deforestize?).

And the fire affects most of the area that these guys are interested in.

And it's happening during winter.

So, y'know, could just be a coincidence.

Edited by TheLovecraftian on Aug 21st 2019 at 6:58:27 AM

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Aug 21st 2019 at 3:07:15 PM

[up][up]I dont know, I dont think he is like trump who seen to rewrite is own memory as it happen in order to fit himself into better position, Bolso seen a very honest to god uncaring about anything.

I Wonder how much is base is going to take it.

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Gaon Smoking Snake from Grim Up North Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
Aug 21st 2019 at 3:31:10 PM

I think Bolsonaro and Trump are basically cut from the same cloth, i.e idiots with no grasp of reality. But they're different brands of the same kind of idiot, so to speak: Trump is a businessman and a con man by career, so he's a spin doctor by heart who can be very calculating when it comes to spinning a story for his captive audience (spinning is literally the only thing Trump can do with some measure of competence, e.g how all his nicknames caught on). As incoherent as Trump is, there's a method to the madness when it comes to marketing. Trump is here to think like a businessman: to maximize his profits.

Bolsonaro isn't a businessman by career, he's a soldier, so following the worst stereotypes of the armed forces, he's just a brainless thug using his rank to enjoy his foulest instincts. He has no concept of what even spinning is, so while Trump changes his tune at the drop of a hat depending on the spin he's going for, Bolsonaro just observes what he genuinely believes with no fear of repercussion. You'll observe Bolsonaro is actually rather consistent regarding his beliefs, unlike Trump. The only bit of spin Bolsonaro does is covering up his own corruption, everything else is pretty much naked (see: his brazen admission of nepotism). Bolsonaro is here to think like a military man: to eradicate the enemy.

Trump is ultimately self-serving in nature to the bone (so he's still a deeply racist person, but his racism is "anarchic"). So is Bolsonaro, but I think he's a more legitimate ideologue. He does believe all of this absolutely moronic stuff he's saying, 100%.

Edited by Gaon on Aug 21st 2019 at 3:32:09 AM

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HailMuffins Thoroughly unimpressed from Ceará, Brazil Relationship Status: How YOU doin'?
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Aug 21st 2019 at 3:36:16 PM

[awesome][awesome][awesome]

Couldn't put it better myself.

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