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Motyka5 Since: Aug, 2011
#12126: Apr 6th 2018 at 3:53:07 AM

[up][up][up][up] Ryan Molina of Battle Geek Plus said that he and some other producers had reached Doug and the CA higher-ups to suggest making a sincere apology video. Apparently CA is going to have a meeting about it. With their subs dropping and Doug being right now at the Empire State Comic Con where he and Brad will DEFINITELY be asked repeatedly about the whole thing, I think there's a chance we will get some sort of a proper apology.

edited 6th Apr '18 3:53:44 AM by Motyka5

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Ultimatum Disasturbator from The Wiggle Room (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
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#12127: Apr 6th 2018 at 3:58:18 AM

> proper apology.

Let's hope they include the apology in their template this time!

have a listen and have a link to my discord server
Redmess Redmess from Netherlands Since: Feb, 2014
Redmess
#12128: Apr 6th 2018 at 3:58:58 AM

Yeah, I never really got the point of Demo Reel either.

Hope shines brightest in the darkest times
Motyka5 Since: Aug, 2011
#12129: Apr 6th 2018 at 4:06:47 AM

I've only seen the first two episodes. One day I'll binge the whole thing.

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Beatman1 Since: Feb, 2014 Relationship Status: Gone fishin'
#12130: Apr 6th 2018 at 4:22:43 AM

[up]Don’t bother. It’s one part pity party, one part those skits from new Nostalgia Critic everyone hates turned up to 11, and one part the equivalent of building a bridge for five years in order to turn around and set the bridge on fire (I’m pretty sure Demo Reel resulted in Doug getting blacklisted from just about every real acting job).

And to put that trooper worship in perspective, Demo Reel’s tropes page is thrice as long as the one for Lethal Weapon (2016), a series that got two seasons, and longer than the film version of Ready Player One that took #1 at the worldwide box office.

Doug made his bed. There’s another reality where he shutters CA after TBF, and goes “I’m going to Hollywood to try to turn my cult fandom into legitimate acting and writing roles. Noah, you’re coming with me.” In that reality, he’s at least got a shot at a supporting role in an ongoing show. Instead he throws the pity party, it fails, and he’s stuck doing Critic until CA shuts down or he gets a 9-5.

edited 6th Apr '18 4:26:03 AM by Beatman1

Motyka5 Since: Aug, 2011
#12131: Apr 6th 2018 at 4:29:45 AM

[up] How do you know that Doug got blacklisted? Has anyone talked about it?

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Beatman1 Since: Feb, 2014 Relationship Status: Gone fishin'
#12132: Apr 6th 2018 at 4:37:06 AM

[up]There’s rumors that he was blacklisted for something he did mentioned earlier. If said rumors are true, I can imagine that a web series that’s essentially a manifesto about how much Hollywood sucks and why he would never want to be part of it would do the trick.

Motyka5 Since: Aug, 2011
#12133: Apr 6th 2018 at 4:42:41 AM

[up] I mean, maybe, but was Demo Reel really popular enough for Hollywood to even notice it?

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#12134: Apr 6th 2018 at 5:08:05 AM

Is there somewhere to go to discuss cleaning up his pages? Like I know normally it's not that big a deal for some degree of personal feelings to slip into the pages, but in Walker's case I think it gets in the way of actual quality.

"TV Tropes looks like if Tumblr got a little crazy at a party last night and brought someone home"
Redmess Redmess from Netherlands Since: Feb, 2014
Redmess
#12135: Apr 6th 2018 at 5:13:15 AM

The popularity wouldn't really matter much, anyone looking at Doug's CV would come across Demo Reel and make their own conclusions about working with him. Which would probably not be very positive.

If Demo Reel did not result in him getting blacklisted, it at least made any future career a lot harder for him.

Putting that aside, there wasn't really anything besides a rather self-indulgent storyline and poor excuses for parody to what was supposed to be Doug's great passion project. It was creatively self destructive.

Hope shines brightest in the darkest times
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She-Who-Hunts-Unseen
#12136: Apr 6th 2018 at 5:19:19 AM

I just checked- Nostalgia critic has a "Heartwarming Moments" page roughly ten times as long as the one for Mr. Rogers' Neighborhood, a show that ran for over thirty years and was all-but dedicated to generating these moments.

EDIT: I checked Demo Reel's too- that one is also longer than the one for Mr. Rogers, if not by as wide a margin.

I know they're mostly just personal opinions (And I am somewhat biased in favor of Mr. Rogers, given I grew up with it, but something seems really off about that difference. I'd imagine some of it has to do with NC being more current- that's a common trend, that since people will edit TV Tropes as new episodes come out, new content gets added to these pages more-or-less weekly; but this is just kind of...astonishing.

edited 6th Apr '18 5:22:30 AM by Rotide

"TV Tropes looks like if Tumblr got a little crazy at a party last night and brought someone home"
thatindiantroper Since: Feb, 2015
#12137: Apr 6th 2018 at 5:20:32 AM

Oh good we’re finally realising that Demo Reel was ass.

Although I don’t necessarily hate N.C either. I’m mostly over the whole internet critic thing so the gap between him and the supposed better options is much narrower in my mind.

Luminosity Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Lovey-Dovey
#12138: Apr 6th 2018 at 5:22:29 AM

I can see Hollywood as being petty enough to blacklist anyone criticizing any of their actions.

All corporations are.

thatindiantroper Since: Feb, 2015
#12139: Apr 6th 2018 at 5:24:44 AM

And I frankly can’t see anybody who matters caring .

Also Bojack Horseman anyone ? Last I heard Will Arnett is t exactly living under a bridge.

Ghilz Perpetually Confused from Yeeted at Relativistic Velocities Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Perpetually Confused
#12140: Apr 6th 2018 at 5:25:13 AM

I just checked- Nostalgia critic has a "Heartwarming Moments" page roughly ten times as long as the one for Mr. Rogers' Neighborhood, a show that ran for over thirty years and was all-but dedicated to generating these moments.

You'll find any show that's currently airing (Or rather, aired concurrently with TV Tropes existing) has longer moment pages than shows that are not aired for decades.

This isn't specific to Doug, it's coz those are pages people tend to edit while/just after watching the show in question.

edited 6th Apr '18 5:25:49 AM by Ghilz

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She-Who-Hunts-Unseen
#12141: Apr 6th 2018 at 5:26:48 AM

Yeah, I realized that after a bit, so I re-edited my post to comment on that. It still seems disproportionate, but I get it.

"TV Tropes looks like if Tumblr got a little crazy at a party last night and brought someone home"
Shiningknight S.E.A captain from Professor Xavier's school for gifted lesbians. Since: Apr, 2010 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
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#12142: Apr 6th 2018 at 5:33:29 AM

i've never liked tbf its longer than some of the harry potter films. its pretty much doug in full ego mode. the producers barely got anything to do and when they do something they barely resemble their personas in their own stuff. Its almost nothing but movie references. that whole mechakara lindsey scene made me wince even back in the day and the judge dredd scene as a dredd comic fan made me cringe badly

" I did the right thing, didn't I? It all worked out in the end." "In the end? Nothing ends, Adrian. Nothing ever ends."
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She-Who-Hunts-Unseen
#12143: Apr 6th 2018 at 5:35:52 AM

And that scene was cringey in its own right- I hadn't even thought about how much it really displays Doug's general ignorance of media (Like, he never mentions the original comics in his Judge Dredd film review, or even the fact that it's an adaptation.)

"TV Tropes looks like if Tumblr got a little crazy at a party last night and brought someone home"
M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#12144: Apr 6th 2018 at 5:40:55 AM

So honest question, which anniversary vid did everyone here enjoy the most?

For me, it was Kickassia. Can't really explain why...it just amused me more than the others. It wasn't as mindless as the Brawl but it didn't have quite the same level of pretentious horseshit as Suburban Knights and To Boldly Flee.

Disgusted, but not surprised
Rotide She-Who-Hunts-Unseen (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
She-Who-Hunts-Unseen
#12145: Apr 6th 2018 at 5:42:44 AM

I liked the Brawl, precisely because it was mindless fun- ie, what those dumb movies were supposed to be about.

That and it didn't overly focus on NC at the expense of literally everyone else. Kickassia was kind of fun, but dragged at a lot of points (It is crazy long for something in which so little actually happens.)

Though now that I think about it Kickassia also was pretty good about giving focus to non-NC characters- much better than SK and TBF would end up being.

"TV Tropes looks like if Tumblr got a little crazy at a party last night and brought someone home"
Shiningknight S.E.A captain from Professor Xavier's school for gifted lesbians. Since: Apr, 2010 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
S.E.A captain
#12146: Apr 6th 2018 at 5:46:11 AM

honestly the only good thing that came out of tbf is phelan, brad and alisons "commentary" which is almost a roast full of jibes at doug, the production. and a lot of snidey snark that mades sooooo much more sense after the document come out

highlights include

Brad absolutely despising the executors "bradigan" name and how it fucks his own snob canon

phelan saying he should change his characters name to fred shirt

alison constantly bitching about "dating her stalker"

phelans "edit" of the critics "death scene"

doug and phelans crossover was originally silent night deadly night. they changed it to childs play when phelan had to tell doug the sequal was the garbage day one.

phelan and alisons horror that not only did ed glaser got a credit despite him wanting his name taken off. phelans special effects credit in the end credits is conspiuously missing

" I did the right thing, didn't I? It all worked out in the end." "In the end? Nothing ends, Adrian. Nothing ever ends."
FrozenWolf2 (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#12147: Apr 6th 2018 at 5:46:26 AM

[1]

I mean We really don't even verify if Scrappies are indeed Proper Scrappies or just hated by a particularly vocal group of the fandom

____

Hilariously They've unpinned their official apology only after two days

This is an outrage against Luminara!
Rotide She-Who-Hunts-Unseen (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
She-Who-Hunts-Unseen
#12148: Apr 6th 2018 at 5:49:10 AM

Is that commentary still up? I'd kind of like to watch it now. Might make sitting through TBF again worth it. (Even back then, when I was still a bit of an NC fanatic, I found it seriously underwhelming- I think the nadir was the Dredd scene. He was just running around in a cheap costume screaming his head off!)


(In response to the above post- got Ninja'd) Wow I'm really starting to become aware of how there's still so little regulation around here to prevent overzealous fans/haters of a certain thing from editing the work and creator pages however they like.

edited 6th Apr '18 5:52:13 AM by Rotide

"TV Tropes looks like if Tumblr got a little crazy at a party last night and brought someone home"
Shiningknight S.E.A captain from Professor Xavier's school for gifted lesbians. Since: Apr, 2010 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
S.E.A captain
#12149: Apr 6th 2018 at 5:50:43 AM

its on phelous website

" I did the right thing, didn't I? It all worked out in the end." "In the end? Nothing ends, Adrian. Nothing ever ends."
Motyka5 Since: Aug, 2011
#12150: Apr 6th 2018 at 5:51:12 AM

[up][up] Here.

edited 6th Apr '18 5:51:21 AM by Motyka5

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