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Weirdguy149 Former King from Lumiose City Since: Jul, 2014 Relationship Status: I'd jump in front of a train for ya!
Former King
#326: Jun 7th 2020 at 6:20:06 PM

I'm disillusioned with both parties because they blame each other for bullshit instead of working together to solve problems when a pandemic isn't happening.

The legend has returned.
TairaMai rollin' on dubs from El Paso Tx Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Mu
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#327: Jun 7th 2020 at 7:54:09 PM

A look at the current mess shows that many Democratic mayors rolled over and let the police unions carry on - they are the reason there are few, if any review boards or outside discipline.

The GOP let the War on Drugs and The War On Terror go to their heads. All too often it was a "you are either a patriot or pro-terrorist" - as the TSA was frisking nuns and children. Conservatives have been calling for reform and an end to the 1033 program for years. But get blocked by the GOP higher ups every time.

Both parties are silent on civil asset forfeiture, both tend to look the other way when police brutality is brought up.

So I'm not feeling confident that either party can manage COVID-19. The Democrats want to give away the store and like us locked down, the GOP thinks that masks are tyranny as cases creep up.

It's not the mid-tier party members that are the problem, once you get to the Federal level, a lot of the GOP has this dry rot that makes for crigney moments.

I tried to walk like an Egyptian and now I need to see a Cairo practor....
firewriter Since: Dec, 2016
#328: Jun 8th 2020 at 9:08:54 AM

I still think there is hypocrisy in praising these protests, while demonizing those who wanted to go to church. Also I think that those who protested the lockdown were wrongfully generalized as wanting a air cut.

JustTroper Since: Jun, 2011
#329: Jun 8th 2020 at 12:43:47 PM

Also, the goal of the protests seems ill-defined to me. If they want "justice for George Floyd", well, Floyd's murderer is in jail waiting for the trial, it's not like he was let go freely. If they want to do away with "white privilege", "white privilege" is not on the institutional level (Jim Crow laws have been eliminated more than half a century ago), it's more on the level of "public sentiment" - and lootings and burnings of properties (with some of those properties belonging to black people) surely don't help to change this sentiment for the better.

firewriter Since: Dec, 2016
#330: Jun 8th 2020 at 4:58:58 PM

Also I think it's some of the ties that BLM has. Some of them are tied with figures like Al Sharpton, who has been notorious for being anti-Semetic but is still respected in the left wing circles.

Serenity92 from Music City Since: Feb, 2016 Relationship Status: Hooked on a feeling
#331: Jul 21st 2020 at 3:25:56 AM

It seems like we're in a state of everything being turned into a political issue, no matter what the issue is. I understand why people don't want to be forced to wear masks or put on lockdown, but I also understand COVID is a very serious issue, and it's not like there isn't precedent on shutting down a bit when it comes to pandemics.

That being said, I can't login to Facebook without seeing 50 posts about how brave people are to post jingoistic patriotic nonsense, and another 50 posts declaring everyone is to the right of exactly wherever that person who's posting happens to lie on the political spectrum is a hateful, fascistic scumbag deserving of the most horrible fate. I just want to see what my family and old friends are up to. That's it.

It's why I've consistently voted Libertarian since I turned 18. I'm tired of the Red Team v. Blue Team vile. I don't watch news anymore, I don't read major news publications, I get my political commentary from a comedian who hosts a podcast because it's the only one I can trust to not hate everyone and everything. Plus I get a few laughs out of it too. It's just exhausting.

"Sometimes the scandal is not what law was broken, but what the law allows." - Edward Snowden
Joyce Since: Apr, 2009
#332: Jul 21st 2020 at 3:36:18 AM

The way masks have been turned into litmus test for morality makes me want to howl.

Masks + social distancing + hand sanitizer are smart and prudent and decrease your chance of getting Covid 19.

However, masks are not the sacred object a lot of people think they are. In the hospital, the mask is thrown away after each patient encounter if it’s the patient who is sick (or at least they were before the shortage). Some hospitals require staff who decline the flu shot to wear a mask when on duty. In this case, don’t have to change between each patient, but only if it gets wet or visibly soiled.

But it makes me uneasy to hear people equate non-mask wearing with murder.

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TairaMai rollin' on dubs from El Paso Tx Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Mu
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#333: Jul 21st 2020 at 4:38:53 PM

As someone who goes to sites like Imgur or Reddit as a refuge from politics - it sickens me to see endless political posts.

At least I can turn down or block them on Facebook - I had to "snooze" a friend from highschool because I just can't take another "ORANGE MAN BAD" post. Asshole didn't vote in the last election so I don't want to hear it.

But when I go to other sites, I just wanna see content that isn't politics.

But no, even wikipedia has natter and vandalism (thankfully they caught it).

Edited by TairaMai on Jul 21st 2020 at 6:40:23 PM

I tried to walk like an Egyptian and now I need to see a Cairo practor....
Serenity92 from Music City Since: Feb, 2016 Relationship Status: Hooked on a feeling
#334: Jul 21st 2020 at 9:15:15 PM

It's really sad, because I enjoy discussing politics, I just don't enjoy arguing. I like to hear people our and explain why they thing X, Y or Z is a good policy, and then offer a polite rebuttal but that's almost impossible now without it being seen as "An In-Depth Analysis of Why Serenity 92 is a Person Without Morals: an Essay."

"Sometimes the scandal is not what law was broken, but what the law allows." - Edward Snowden
TairaMai rollin' on dubs from El Paso Tx Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Mu
rollin' on dubs
#335: Jul 22nd 2020 at 2:38:09 AM

[up] "Or Why Taira Mai is a GOP/NeoCon alt-right thug", when all I did was say that "universal healthcare" isn't possible and I liked to Reason.com. Teh Horror!

I was in school at a time when teachers told us to look at opposing view points. I even brought my Dad's copy of Rush Limbaugh's "The Way Things Ought To Be" so she could read it - this was done after a discussion in Creative Writing.

I didn't get sent to the principal's office, the school didn't call my parents nor was the book taken from me.

That shit wouldn't fly today - I'd be in the principal's office and suspended for some -ism or another.

I tried to walk like an Egyptian and now I need to see a Cairo practor....
Weirdguy149 Former King from Lumiose City Since: Jul, 2014 Relationship Status: I'd jump in front of a train for ya!
Former King
#336: Jul 22nd 2020 at 3:47:15 PM

I’m disappointed in the people who decided that extremists in both parties should have a platform.

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Serenity92 from Music City Since: Feb, 2016 Relationship Status: Hooked on a feeling
#337: Jul 22nd 2020 at 8:16:33 PM

Yeah I took a U.S. Government class in high school and since it was a non-election year at the federal level, but the gubernatorial primaries were gearing up, we were encouraged to research every candidate running, in every party. That was when I discovered the Libertarian Party and thought, "hmm... maybe there's a party that more closely fits me than the Republicans. Interesting."

With regards to universal healthcare, I feel a voucher system, such as the one in Singapore would scale best to a country with the population size of the US, but it'd be hard to sell to either major party, especially the Democratic Party since it's still run through a free market and allows for insurance companies to operate and compete, even though it still provides everyone with coverage of some sort or another.

"Sometimes the scandal is not what law was broken, but what the law allows." - Edward Snowden
Count_Spatula (Apprentice) Relationship Status: Complex: I'm real, they are imaginary
#338: Jul 26th 2020 at 9:03:41 AM

Yeah, politics is omnipresent. Can't go anywhere without hearing it.

I understand where anti-lockdown protestors are coming from, as people such as myself have been out of work for months. I think most people were on board with the lockdowns when they began and were expecting it to be more than a couple of weeks at most, but it's been months. I get the concern about feeding families and paying bills.

firewriter Since: Dec, 2016
#339: Jul 26th 2020 at 10:03:32 AM

Even some companies like Chuck E Cheese are at risk of going out of business due the lockdown, and there is the fact that some places are allowing protests while condemning other groups for having other social gatherings which makes it look hypocritical.

Serenity92 from Music City Since: Feb, 2016 Relationship Status: Hooked on a feeling
#340: Jul 28th 2020 at 8:43:50 AM

Not just Chuck E Cheese, but AMC too! That's something I've missed during this whole lockdown is going to the movies. And now I have to wait until at least September for TENET and I've been excited for that movie for a long time. There's only so many times I can rewatch Disney/Pixar movies with my 1-year-old.

And also to mention the companies that are only staying afloat because they cut employee hours and have managers volunteering to work without pay to keep some employees on the payroll when they otherwise wouldn't have been able to. And now I have to get yelled at for enforcing company and county policy by telling people they need to wear a mask in the hotel lobby.

I swear, in the last 4 years, the amount of people who have slung "I bet you voted for [insert whoever the person yelling didn't vote for here] didn't you?" as an insult is ridiculous. And they're always wrong too!

"Sometimes the scandal is not what law was broken, but what the law allows." - Edward Snowden
firewriter Since: Dec, 2016
#341: Jul 28th 2020 at 11:42:15 AM

Seriously, I think the Corona Virus is going to define this decade in so many ways, including future events concerning health. I think it maybe even more impacting on politics than even 9/11 did.

Serenity92 from Music City Since: Feb, 2016 Relationship Status: Hooked on a feeling
#342: Jul 28th 2020 at 12:16:39 PM

I feel you may be right on that, and the politics of it is just going to worm its way into most everything. I'm hoping to return to university either next spring or fall and the entirety of my continued education is going to be dictated by the policy decisions made going forward in regards to COVID.

"Sometimes the scandal is not what law was broken, but what the law allows." - Edward Snowden
firewriter Since: Dec, 2016
#343: Jul 28th 2020 at 7:24:18 PM

So true. And my chances of getting a job will affected by the virus.

Serenity92 from Music City Since: Feb, 2016 Relationship Status: Hooked on a feeling
#344: Jul 28th 2020 at 11:15:39 PM

Definitely true. Had to take up a second job with Amazon at a warehouse to help make ends meet. Ech! I hate every second I'm there. The only upside is I get to listen to podcasts all night, but I'm slowly draining my backlog.

This whole situation is complete nonsense, and now it's just Trump trying his damnedest to look as good as possible, and everyone rightfully attacking his horrible handling of the whole fiasco, and then using that justified criticism to shame anyone who isn't on their team. Which then causes the other side to double down on their support of Trump which causes a feedback loop to the other side. And now I have a headache.

"Sometimes the scandal is not what law was broken, but what the law allows." - Edward Snowden
firewriter Since: Dec, 2016
#345: Jul 29th 2020 at 10:38:07 AM

I think with a lot of people at home there will be those who will get even more intense about their political stance, due to cabin fever.

Count_Spatula (Apprentice) Relationship Status: Complex: I'm real, they are imaginary
#346: Jul 30th 2020 at 7:10:32 PM

Do y'all have an ideal form of government?

I'm biased towards the American system, but it seems a lot of people have lost faith in it and have been calling for electoral reform.

I also really like the Swiss system.

I guess I don't really care that much as long as it respects basic rights and values.

TairaMai rollin' on dubs from El Paso Tx Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Mu
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#347: Jul 30th 2020 at 11:53:17 PM

[up]People - mostly those who either are upset their pet causes didn't make it through - are upset at the American system every decade. Either Time or Newsweek ran an editorial asking "Is Government Dead?"

Having the three branches at odds with each other has proven stable over time. As long as each branch has to be accountable to someone, things aren't too bad.

Every "solution" is really just some "expert" (Youtube Government Expert? Armchair Legislator? Are those tropes?) bitchin' and moanin' that they didn't get their way.

Honestly, it's the two parties - I think that one or both of them needs to die and new parties take their place.

As to an Ideal Govenment[tm] - there isn't one. Like those perfectly spherical chickens, friction-less pulleys and mass-less ropes in my physics textbook, an Ideal Government is a fiction.

The real world is always messy.

A conservative knows that government, like fire, is a powerful servant but a fearful master.

I tried to walk like an Egyptian and now I need to see a Cairo practor....
Count_Spatula (Apprentice) Relationship Status: Complex: I'm real, they are imaginary
#348: Jul 31st 2020 at 4:13:40 AM

I agree the two party system is the problem, but you aren't really gonna get rid of it without changing the voting system.

firewriter Since: Dec, 2016
#349: Jul 31st 2020 at 10:14:08 AM

I am too used to the American way, but it would be good if alternative parties got more time to shine.

Weirdguy149 Former King from Lumiose City Since: Jul, 2014 Relationship Status: I'd jump in front of a train for ya!
Former King
#350: Jul 31st 2020 at 9:51:05 PM

I personally think that in time, the moderates of both parties will make a third party that engulfs the other parties in size.

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