Huh... Good point ._. Forgot about those...
...Yeah, seriously, what IS up with those True Lab logs state that Flowey is the first golden flower(from which others in Asgore's garden came from). Golden flower seeds came from fallen child's village from seeds that were stuck to body. Flowey is Asriel because things that get sprinkled with monster dust became fused with their essence. Toriel took child's body when she left and buried it so that explains the ruin flowers. I'm pretty sure I'm not forgetting anything. So WHERE the heck do garage golden flowers come from? X-x;
Just hazarding a guess here but maybe they grow around human corpses more easily? Are there any weapons found in or around the garbage dump?
Alternatively, since Alphys liked to hang out there after she withdrew from society, and she mentions how the seeds stick to you easily, it's possible some just fell off her and somehow started flourishing there.
Well, Catty and Bratty says they found empty gun in dumbster at garage(along with rest of stuff they sell so the cowboy hat too)... So I guess someone could have died there and since only way to enter the underworld is through hole with flower bed at bottom that would explain where the seeds for flowers came from...
Still, if that would be the case, why there aren't flower beds on the five other kids? The gun one is the one that got farthest if you think about item locations
I guess Alphys might explain it too since she spends lot of time there
edited 27th Sep '15 1:15:08 PM by SpookyMask
Which is kind of ironic given he'll say it even after he kills you. Or when you're inches from slaughtering him and his kingdom in Genocide mode.
Speaking of. Something else I noticed regarding that is the fact that ASGORE uses a bit of the game over theme mixed into it, just to make it clearer.
edited 27th Sep '15 2:49:22 PM by Hashil
CommanderHolly and Game Grump's Ross are taking a shot at Undertale
"I don't think you get punished for killing people."
heheheheheh....HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
edited 27th Sep '15 3:27:28 PM by CountofBleck
BTW, bit annoyed at fridge logic page at that fallen child is fallen child due to them being "fallen" due to disease. I mean, yeah, monsters do use "fell down" for dying, but I think thats not the reason in this case xD I think the reason is that you are naming child that fell in intro instead of the one in the game, so i think thats something that spreads misinformation since I've heard that somewhere else as well
Well the fallen child did die from an unknown sickness. Later on revealed to be a poison. Personally I prefer to refer to the child as [PLAYERNAME] or Chara
Apocalypse: Dirge Of Swans.Despite being utterly spoiled by my Archive Binge on this thread, I still want to get and play this game. Is that bad?
My Deviant Art account. There might be art there. Sometimes.Oh no not at all.
Some parts are just that difficult to explain. I can imagine even spoiled you can get good enjoyment out of the game
Apocalypse: Dirge Of Swans.Well, I may have tried it at some point, I think I killed that "goat lady" in the demo and felt really horrible even if at that time I didn't see another way to get past her... getting spoiled with the alternate way is one of the encouraging factors for me to get this.
Oh by the way, about the saves getting tainted after No Mercy Run is there a way to completely start over by utterly wiping the save file?
edited 28th Sep '15 2:35:29 AM by FlamingoKai
My Deviant Art account. There might be art there. Sometimes.I believe there's a specific file to delete.
But it's a complicated process and you can basically stop your run after beating Sans and still be just fine. Though Sans will be pissed at you.
Apocalypse: Dirge Of Swans.

There are two solutions to that one though. Both of them are just line up though
Anyway, kinda disturbing that since golden flowers were brought up to underworld from seeds stuck to Asrial and fallen child's body, the reason why ruins has batch of them is because Toriel buried child there ._. While that does explain why she goes there to check that place and why she takes care of the flowers, its kinda disturbing you start the game by falling on a grave xD