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its not just that. waller tantrum when she boasts about what she did to make heroes hated is broadcast to the entire world thanks to air wave. She is thrown in prison for life and when she tries to say she can blackmail her way out dreamer asks her well what are the secrets you know and waller realizes she can't remember.
Edited by Deadpoolrocks on Oct 2nd 2024 at 9:52:17 AM
Okay so this does create a continuity snarl with the Super Son special since that clearly takes place after AP yet it treats Dreamer as possibly dead, presumably to hide the reveal that she did indeed survive at the end of Absolute Power. Probably should have had the special release after the event is done as an epilogue.
"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."Well AP still has Jon bandaged up and hurt indicating it starts immediately from issue 3 while Super Sons has him in his full suit. Plus since he's chill enough to reflect on what happened and considers moving to San Francisco indicates the conflict is over by that point.
"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."You know the "I did not care for the Godfather" line? Replace Godfather with Dick Grayson and you get Didio. Seriously, why is he like the one guy who hates him?
Dude hated anything that aged the heroes and Dick is THE Kid Sidekick grown up, or one of the big ones.
Wake me up at your own risk.Maybe he grew up with Jason Todd Robin or assumed the Robin that'd been blown up was Dick?
The Protomen enhanced my life.
Edited by TrashJack on Oct 2nd 2024 at 6:31:09 AM
"Cynic, n. — A blackguard whose faulty vision sees things as they are, not as they ought to be." - The Devil's Dictionary....hmmm....
....shit....shit this isn't good.
....don't do it rob. Zip your lip, or they'll slap your yap. Just be silent.
.....I....might, kinda, sorta, maybe see Didio's point.
<Ducks all the bricks>
Here me out. Don't kill me yet.
Like, the point of the younger characters growing up is so that they can take the place of their older mentors....except that due to Sliding Timescales and a refusal to retire the old guard, that's never gonna happen.
Dick, whether he takes over as Batman (which he did do) or makes Nightwing the new big thing, is never going to replace Bruce. The only sidekick who managed to ascend permanently is Wally (and we love him for it).
Now, this doesn't justify wanting to murder the hell out of Dick, but I get it a little.
One Strip! One Strip!That doesn't surprise me.
Though note that for a long while, Wally was basically tossed into Limbo when Barry came back. Something everyone hated.
One Strip! One Strip!
Actually, for my part, I agree with you.
They're never going to do more than tease the notion of Dick becoming Batman, or play with it briefly. The reason for his becoming Nightwing in the first place was because, in 1984, he was integral to The New Teen Titans, which at the time was DC's best-selling book, and the folks handling the Batman titles at the time wanted to have a "boy wonder" again, so it was either remove Dick from the Titans and de-age him (which came within a whisker of happening) or else do what they did.
It would simplify matters enormously to make Dick a 15 year-old Robin again and jettison a good portion of Batman's unwieldly supporting cast. I doubt they'll do that any time soon, as a lot of people do like the current status quo, but I can see that happening eventually, even though Dick's been Nightwing now nearly as long as he was Robin. There's something to be said for simplifying things back to their iconic status. Mark Waid has proven several times over now that there are still good stories to be told with Batman and a Dick Grayson Robin.
Don't worry folks, I don't insist on having my own way. Enjoy the current status quo while it lasts.
I could have tolerated the so called 5G if they got Yara Flor/Nubia right, as one or both of them may have been Diana's replacement based on DC Future State.
Yara Flor had her positives as a character, she had her negatives as a character, her stories largely didn't serve her character, but in the event Warner/DC/Jones got it together we'd have had great comic books. Future State Nubia was better conceived than Yara on almost every level, but she didn't have as good an outfit. Ignoring the obviously not Brazil nature of it, nobody's had as good an outfit as Flor. Donna and Cassie have come close, but only in that their star field pJs have In-Universe reasons to look the way they do. Raw design wise, Yara blows away everyone, including future kid Trinity. If things got in order I'd have been fine with Yara/Nubia.
I'd have been fine with the Superman-Wonder Woman setup of Superman being an organized, friendly, punctual, routine following, well educated, law upholding, self sacrificial Nice Guy with an almost Fascist world view, bouncing off an uneducated, brash, arrogant, confrontational, animal abusing, thieving Wonder Woman who nonetheless believed hard work could overcome corruption in democracy and create fair markets. There was plenty of room for him to be right about most things in comedic manners but her to be right about a few things when the tone got more serious. There'd still be the things I dislike about the Superman setup, of course. Things that didn't change with Future State that I'd expect to stick with "FG", but having Wonder Woman replace Lois Lane/Batman as Superman's spouse was already something New 52 did that failed to alienate me entirely. Yara Flor as Jon Kent's self appointed therapist had far more potential.
Buldogue's lawyerWas this from 5G?
Oh yeah the original intention for 5G would have been to turn Superman into an authoritarian dictator, even having their own version of Civil War where Superman wants everyone to go public with their identity and Batman went against him arguing no.
Also rereading Superman Unchained and I'm reminded what a total jackass Sam Lane is.
Calling Superman a mass murderer because he doesn't use his powers to be a government assassin solving the "real problems" like killing dictators.
Edited by slimcoder on Oct 4th 2024 at 1:51:57 AM
"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."Wraith, the major antagonist/rival who appears in the miniseries.
He's an alien who crashed landed on Earth 70 years ago and was picked up by the military to use as their secret weapon, even being the atomic bomb they used in Nagasaki (they only had one bomb, Wraith was the other).
He's essentially what would Superman had been like if the government found him and turned him into their agent. He's actually a pretty decent guy, a man of honor who respects Superman and is treated pretty decent by the military his loyalty to his caretakers aside.
Edited by slimcoder on Oct 4th 2024 at 2:21:09 AM
"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."I have not actually read "5 G", but I did read Future State:Superman Wonder Woman, which starts out with John Kent writing a greeting to Metropolis in the clouds, every morning at the same time down to the nano second, to "inspire hope". He has a task for every hour, measure who and what may need his assistance in between. It seems like a reconstruction of that loser over at the other company. It seems like an improvement for John Kent, who in his previous "Future State" story was shrinking cities like Brainiac because he couldn't trust the human population to take care of itself.
Meanwhile we have the second appearance of "Wonder Woman" Yara Flor as she catches a falling helicopter, threatens the occupants inside because one is a politician misusing infrastructure funds, then she goes off to threaten the sun god Kuat, who had dropped the helicopter on the very people praying to be rid of said politician. In the context of "Future State" this is progress for Flor, as she was previously shown to be a poacher, thief and aspiring murderer who knew nothing outside of the Amazon rain forest. Now she's learning how the wider world works and sort of trying to fix things within the parameters of its laws. She's still abusive to animals though.
Superman and Wonder Woman meet. Superman knows the Portuguese language better than she does, can pacify animals better than she can despite lacking the ability to talk to them, and is helping much larger swaths of the planet, to the point of working himself sick. While tending to his health she learns Superman believes humans to be a stupid species in need of kryptonian guidance. When she points he is human he attributes any good in himself to his alien half. At this Wonder Woman decides Superman needs therapy and that she's going to be regularly visiting to give it to him, whether he likes it or not. We see this "therapy" continue in Future State: Justice League where the League members are forbidden from fraternizing. Batman and Green Lantern follow the rules, though they mistrust each other less than the others. Green Lantern because she thinks Batman is the only other competent detective among them, Batman because Green Lantern is the only one with an easily accessible public record and no apparent ulterior motive. Aquawoman and Flash shirk the rules by "secretly" dating. Wonder Woman is only on the league because her "patient" Superman is, only breaking the rules when it's time for his "sessions".
Edited by IndirectActiveTransport on Oct 4th 2024 at 4:40:24 AM
Buldogue's lawyerJor-El was telling everyone what was happening but the leadership silenced him because they refused to believe something bad was happening on their planet.
Kryptonians and humanity are more alike than they think. Krypton died literally because of climate change deniers.
"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."

What the fuck?
"The Black Rage makes us strong, because we must resist its temptations every day of our lives or be forever damned!"