Creator Provincialism covers much more stuff.
"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard FeynmanAnd America Saves the Day covers much more stuff than America Wins the War, but we're talking about merging those.
Really from Jupiter, but not an alien.I don't agree with merging them.
This is a pretty prominent trope among a significant sub-genre of movies. Hollywood World War II films tend to play this straight all the time.
There's no reason to get rid of an obvious trope just because it could be included under the super trope. In that case why have sub tropes at all?
This case is particularly worthy of being a sub trope because it can be argued that this trope developed before America Saves the Day, and that in fact America Saves the Day developed out of this trope. Essentially Hollywood took America Wins the War and decided to apply it outside of World War II (and World War I).
Looking at the page there is a single line about this not apply solely to America winning World War II, which I think is a mistake. Let's just have this as a clear trope about America being depicted as the ones that won WWII (and I think we can include WWI as well, to America the same tropes tend to apply).
The trope name is rather vague. It looks like just another name for America Saves the Day. WWII should be in the name, like America Won WWII or America Wins WWII.
edited 27th May '13 9:53:39 AM by Rethkir
America Punched Out Hitler, and then the cover to Captain America #1 can be the page image. Oh wait, never mind, the current image is perfect as is.
edited 27th May '13 1:45:43 PM by MorganWick
I still don't see what separates either America Wins the War or America Saves the Day from Misplaced Nationalism and/or Creator Provincialism.
Really from Jupiter, but not an alien.These have a lot more aspects than this and also lack the Artistic License qualifier.
"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard FeynmanWe could always, yaknow, MAKE the trope of "Nation enters the war to win" as a supertrope to the current one. Since WWII is pretty much an established subgenre or war films, a trope that deals with that specific subgenre would pretty much call for a unique folder just for WWII and America, even IF we expanded this trope.
Link to TRS threads in project mode here.^ That's... not a trope.
Every nation enters a war planning to win, outside of parodies or satire like The Mouse That Roared.
The issue in this thread is fictional works where the "source" country is made out to be the main reason a war was won, as a subtrope of Artistic Licence – History.
All your safe space are belong to TrumpEr, I meant to phrase it such that the war existed before the participation of the country, and the actions taken by the country won the war. I wasn't trying to imply a NEW trope out of this. Merely reference the trope that would exist if this one is changed from America to All Countries. I was TRYING to do it quickly, instead of typing it all out.
Link to TRS threads in project mode here.
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If we're going to merge this with America Saves the Day, then what's the dividing line between America Saves the Day and Creator Provincialism?
I'll be honest and admit that it sort of annoys me that America is singled out. It's not like Americans are the only people guilty of Misplaced Nationalism.
Really from Jupiter, but not an alien.