Ah, good point.
OH GOD, WHY DIDN'T THIS MAKE IT INTO ANY OF THE MOVIES
Jesus Christ, have a Made of Forum Win.
edited 22nd Aug '16 8:40:57 PM by dRoy
Continuously reading, studying, and (hopefully) growing.Cross posting from the US politics page. Trump is doing poorly with American Catholics, including those who attend Church regularly.
http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/trump-is-driving-catholic-voters-toward-clinton/?ex_cid=538fb
I think a lot of us already were expecting this: Mother Teresa to be declared saint
Not without some Controversy, though. Some have suggested it's Too Soon, with about 200 years required before someone can become a Saint.
In recent times, Maximilian Kolbe
and Pope John Paul II have become Saints. There have been some more noteworthy exceptions besides them.
edited 4th Sep '16 4:32:27 AM by Quag15
I heard that one of qualifications is a familiarity with drinking goat blood and such.
Continuously reading, studying, and (hopefully) growing.
Saints do not perform miracles. Only God does. What they (soon to be recognized saints) do after they're dead is that they ask God (usually because the person that is sick or a relative asks the one person - in this case, Mother Teresa - to intercede for them and ask God if God can cure the sick person). Then if it is proven beyond a doubt that the eventual recovery did not have a solid medical explanation (or that said recovery was completely unexpected and can't be explained by science), then the Church recognizes that the person who interceded has reached the level of sainthood.
edited 5th Sep '16 8:14:00 AM by Quag15
@Handle: I think it's because it was getting in the way of JPII's use of mass sainthood for political purposes. To continue on Quag's explanation, this is the guy who looked over the medical report and tried to convince the panel that the "miracle" has a perfectly natural explanation, such as "cancer goes into remission all the time, and this fits that pattern better than a miracle requested by Sister Theresa."
That first sentence seems like an uncharitable reading of JP2's larger purposes. He famously believed and taught that sainthood is NOT something so singular that ordinary people should think of it as unattainable. He sincerely thought that sainthood is something that even a garden-variety person could, with God's grace, aspire to. Saints are still usually rare (his argument went), because it's very hard and requires tons of grace & perseverance ... but they're not as necessarily rare as some of us believe, and they're not as removed from ordinary human experience.
In keeping with that, JP2 made it a special point to canonize deserving candidates who had gone unacknowledged because of thoughtlessly exclusivist assumptions about saints. He thought that saints could become far more common in the world and thicker on the ground than we tend to think possible, and his policies were partly a reflection of this hope.
edited 15th Sep '16 8:02:42 AM by Jhimmibhob
The trailer
for "Silence", Scorcese's new film dealing with Christian persecution in 17th century Japan, has been released; Given it's a movie about jesuit missionaries directed by a lapsed Catholic based on a book written by a Japanese Kirishtian Catholic writer I felt it belonged here
Amusingly, before premiering worldwide, the movie will have a private screening to 400 Jesuit Priests in Rome.
It's Scorcese, so it'll probably be outstanding. High hopes for this.
"All you Fascists bound to lose."It's like Roman times all over again!
"NIHON-HITO IE-NI TORIMODOSERU? JAPAN PEOPLE THEY BACK IN THE HOME?"
"WE'RE THE SUICIDE SQUAD!" (They all commit Seppuku)
"FITHY JESUITS! WE HAD THE IDEA OF KIDNAPPING THE DAIMYO'S DAUGHTER FIRST!"
"NOT A CHANCE, YOU DISGUSTING DOMINICANS!"
"BROTHERS, WE SHOULD BE STRUGGLING TOGETHER!"
"We ARE Struggling Together!"
"I MEAN AGAINST OUR COMMON ENEMY!"
"THE PROTESTANTS!"
"NO, THE SHOGUNATE!"
"Oh, right, right..."
edited 23rd Nov '16 3:13:20 PM by TheHandle
Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that.Which is quite fitting in the face of America's plight right now.
Apparently, Francis has read the original novel and is a big fan of it and gives the movie his blessings.
"All you Fascists bound to lose."Spreading false/fake news on the media would be one of the things that go against this this Commandment
, right? At least, I'm assuming that's how he interpreted it.
edited 9th Dec '16 6:55:30 AM by Quag15

If I remember correctly, the basic doctrine is that the soul belongs to God, and therefore cant be "summoned" by human agency (it can be sent, of course). Therefore, when someone summons a spirit, it must always be either a dammed soul, or a demon, obviously on some unholy mission.
I'm done trying to sound smart. "Clear" is the new smart.