The only reason I can see why we wouldn't have an Endgame Reference is because Endgame wasn't released until most (if not all) of Season 6 and 7 was shot and in the can.
Its the main reason why Season 6 is ALREADY and alt timeline, since Mutant Enemy was writing the series under the impression that Endgame would undo most of not all of Infinity Wars casualties. They were not expecting a 5 year time gap so shot Season 6 as if it was 2019 not 2023.
Its possible they got some heads up before the last eps were shot but I'm not holding my breath.
Still lagging behind on episodes.
Finished "The Totally Excellent Adventures of Mack and The Big D".
I noticed one of the women on Deke's team had a name tag that read "R. Glass".
A nod to actor Ron Glass?
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And there goes The Lighthouse.
So Fitz's was hanging around in the original timeline this whole time, essentially a watcher to variants of this season's events. I guess that means Fitz was equally frustrated with the time-loop incident with LMD Coulson.
Never thought that Deke would actually become the defacto leader of the altered timeline-S.H.I.E.L.D..
Edited by XMenMutant22 on Aug 12th 2020 at 10:13:33 AM
Well, I guess thats it then, for now anyway.
The final season was a mixed bag for me. It started off pretty good with the whole time traveling shenanigans but these last 6 episodes have felt a bit lackluster(except for the finale of course).
The villains were rather bland; the chronicoms I thought were kinda okay but Malik long overstayed his welcome for me, not really compelling and I didn't really buy why the coms would bother with this dude. In fact I was expecting them to off him at some point.
The biggest positive for the season as with all the others was the core cast. Seeing them interact and try to find ways out of those crazy situations never gets old. My favorite episode of the season was the noir black and white one.
Man, this show really was the little-engine-that-could of the MCU. It kept going and going and managed to outlast all the others. I remember watching way back in season one when so many people thought it wouldn't get renewed, and here we are years later. It's been a wild ride and I'm glad I never got off it.
Tis the great art of life to manage well The restless mindWell, that was it. Nice finale, but I gotta say, Season 5 would've been the better send-off.
As for this season, it was better than the two before, but it is still good that it ended here. Good things don't need to be taken to the extreme and the show did feel kinda played out at this point.
Still, I will miss these characters very much.
Certified: 48.0% West Asian, 6.5% South Asian, 15.8% North/West European, 15.7% English, 7.4% Balkan, 6.6% Scandinavian....so while there was still a reference to the main timeline in the form of the Quantum Realm, it can still be safely said they were still just ignoring what happened in Endgame huh?
I mean, not that they had a choice since they were apparently not told at all about the five year time jump or anything, but still. I guess the best you can say is that Shield stepped up to organize the world in the aftermath of the Snap or something, and the main characters were lucky enough to avoid being caught up in it.
Or maybe they could have said that being caught up in the time loop meant the snap missed them? Or whatever.
One Strip! One Strip!That doesn't seem to be the case.
I'm really baffled at the lack of communication between the old t.v. branch and the movies. Like, we get that the films do their stuff many years in advance, but you'd think these guys would all be sitting around consulting with each other.
They probably could have come up with some ways to explain the lack of shield losses for the Snap with a little connection. As it is, the show is only now barely in continuity (because you'd think Captain Marvel would pop up to deal with Chronicoms or something).
And I don't blame the AOS writers. There were trying to fit between the cracks and it was more or less working up until the Endgame reveal. But the film writers didn't care.
Shared Universes are hard. I get it. Having to keep track of what someone else is doing and handicap yourself because someone else has an idea or has a direction they want to go in is frustrating, or setting up something only for another dude to ignore it or go over your head because of their vision, but c'mon here. Where was the communication?
I still liked this, for the Fitz-Simmons happy ending. Because god, did they earn that.
One Strip! One Strip!That was a good finale although I also think it might have been for the best if they just ended things at season 5. As is there's really no way to make this series fit with the continuity. At the very least I'd go full alternate timeline and say the Snap was averted somehow.
So what's everyone's rankings of the seasons now that it's over? Personally I'd probably go 4>5>7>3>2>1>6.
It was supposed to end at Season 5 at some point wasn't it? Ironically enough, it kept getting renewed.
I mean, Coulson was dead, Thanos was about to throw his exclusive party that invited only half the universe, and Shield was heading into a new potential future.
Then they got renewed for another season after the death of their main character, but had no clue how things were going to play out in Endgame (for some reason) so they just did whatever because what choice did they have?
And that's what gets me? Were they not told at all what was happening so they could incorporate it?
In fact, weren't Endgame and Infinity War filmed closely together? That's why the latter could come out a year after the former too right? Or am I wrong on that?
They should have known what was happening in the universe they're supposed to be a part of. I know that Marvel only cares about the T.V. side now that they control everything, but it feels like they were deliberately hanging them out to dry.
One Strip! One Strip!They were two separate divisions of marvel headed by two people who got along so badly one (Feige) threatened to quit if Disney didn’t let him report strait to them instead of through the other (Perlmutter).
Also on a plot point as big as the time skip, you can’t tell anyone that, I’m pretty sure a chunk of the cast didn’t know for a long time.
It’s really not a surprise they don’t talk to each other. I just think of Ao S as being in a timeline where Thor went for the head, maybe if we get super lucky Daisy will get sucked into a wormhole and spat out on a Disney+ SWORD show.
“And the Bunny nails it!” ~ Gabrael “If the UN can get through a day without everyone strangling everyone else so can we.” ~ CyranYeah. I'm not shocked by that. Permulter tainted everything he touched.
I hear he did do some good for Marvel during its bad times, but I wouldn't be surprised if the distance between the movies and the T.V. series might have had something to do with him.
One Strip! One Strip!Watched the "Groundhog Day" episode. (Haven't seen the series finale yet)
Great moment. Daisy mentions to Jemma she's stuck in a time loop, and Jemma's reaction is essentially, "Oh. Okay."
Why did the loops seem shorter while Daisy was talking with Coulson?
And this is the episode directed by Elizabeth Henstridge. Good to know she really did direct an episode, and I didn't sound like a crazy person when I brought it up to her at Summer Con....
Edited by Brandon on Aug 14th 2020 at 12:50:24 PM
Like creepy stories? Check out my book!My ranking would be, now that it is all over:
1. Season 4. Even though the Ghost Rider half was fairly boring, the LMD and Framework arc are still the very best the show ever did, and it is not even close. Pure genius.
2. Season 3. I am probably in the minority in this, but I really loved the Season, Hive was a great antagonist in particular and a nice farewell to Brett Dalton.
3. Season 2. This is where the show was really Growing the Beard. Be it Ward's development, Daisy getting her powers and her relationship with her dad, Mack coming to the team or Jiaying as the final Big Bad, all of it was a massive improvement over Season 1.
4. Season 7. Even though it showed that the show ran it's course and the last few episodes could've been a little better, it was still a great farewell to the series with a lot of good ideas. And Sousa, that alone is a huge bonus!
5. Season 5. The first Arc was probably one of the most boring alongside the Ghost Rider arc. The second Arc was better, but honestly it kinda felt played out after a few episodes. Graviton saved it a bit, and Deke off course, but all in all it was a letdown compared to Season 4.
6. Season 1. Well, I don't really need to repeat it, Season 1 was pretty generic, until the Winter Soldier tie-in (which was great, but only encompassed the last few episodes). But hey, Season 1 is always good to look back to in regards to how far they came.
7. Season 6. Yeah, sorry, but this season didn't work at all for me. Weak antagonists, weak storyline, overall felt pretty forced after the somewhat conclusive ending of Season 5, and while I always advocated for the show being better off individually, instead of slavishly tying into the MCU, them completely ignoring Infinity War was still a little jarring.
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Certified: 48.0% West Asian, 6.5% South Asian, 15.8% North/West European, 15.7% English, 7.4% Balkan, 6.6% ScandinavianPhase 2 is where things started to get testy between Perlmutter and Feige and Phase 3 (specifically Civil War) is where it all went to hell. Perlmutter had already driven away allot of talent thanks to his attitude/decisions and Feige was at his wits end. Hence the demand of "He goes or I go" and Disney decided on the 3rd option of pulling the movies from Perlmutter.
Which TOTALLY irked Perlmutter causing him to rush the production of Inhumans and prevented any of the TV Shows from interacting with the movies. The crash and burn of the Inhumans is what finally gave Disney the leverage to pull him out of his role and shove him into a corner where he can't do any more damage.
I thought so. Agents of Shield basically got caught in the crossfire of the Permulter/Feige feud.
All the shows likely did....I think. Did this have anything to do with the Netflix stuff?
One Strip! One Strip!Perlmutter seems to be the one behind Rodney's recast, because, apparently, in his eyes Terrence Howard and Don Cheadle look the same.
He is also a Trump supporter, and, all in all, a throughly rotten individual. A money grubber.
....oh god. I thought it was money issues that lead to Cheadle replacing Howard....but then again, I'm not shocked either.
One Strip! One Strip!

By the way, didn't the showmakers promise us an Avengers or Endgame reference? Unless it was so subtle I missed it, we've still yet to see it...
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