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Apr 9th 2013 at 2:43:26 PM

@Lightflame: The idea of a movie theatre showing child pornography just makes me want to grab the Brain Bleach as fast as I can! <Shocked and appalled>

There's also a great deal of Paranoia Fuel in the film. The trailer shows one of the Sandin's neighbours sharpening some instrument of torture and/or murder. You know how in every neighbourhood, there's that one neighbour who makes life hard by having a dog that just barks all night, for instance? During The Purge, that neighbour can be murdered just for that with impunity. The paranoia comes in when the question comes up, "Have you been a good neighbour?" <Eek>

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Apr 9th 2013 at 3:15:34 PM

I kind of want this movie to do well just to have a larger-scale sequel. Coming from Jason Blum, I'm not surprised that it's probably limited to one little home invasion story. I think the concept is supremely ridiculous, but also that it has potential.

edited 9th Apr '13 9:53:46 PM by Prowler

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Apr 9th 2013 at 3:21:11 PM

another possibility is that the "gang" is not nearly as disorganized as they look, and are actually a government-sanctioned death squad out to silence this guy

This sounds awesome, actually, at least on the surface.

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Apr 9th 2013 at 9:32:06 PM

It kind of reminds me of an episode of Star Trek The Next Generation, which was a famously bad episode but had an interesting idea of a planet whose paradise status was maintained because they would punish any crime by death. There might have been something about not EVERY possible crime but it would rotate secretly by the police force.

The thing about ideas like that is you need to consider what had to have happened to make such a thing come about and to make it worth your while you need to make it plausible so that it makes sense to the audience.

Apr 16th 2013 at 5:38:34 PM

FESTIVAL! FESTIVAL!

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Apr 17th 2013 at 4:46:06 AM

[up][up] I don't know about that, because some people prefer to watch movies for sheer entertainment. smile

Well, I managed to add wicks of The Purge on almost every trope listed on the page as well as sort a number of lists in alphabetical order. I mean, which is better, to look for a wick to a work in a sorted list or a rat's nest of a list? But I didn't add a wick for Unfortunate Implications. Why? Because it's a little too vague in explaining the UI, and the UI page demands that you put in a citation from a reviewer pointing out UI as opposed to putting down what you alone think. Since the movie hasn't even come out yet, there's no reviews to be found.

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Apr 21st 2013 at 4:51:39 PM

The movie shouldn't even have trope examples yet and yet there are dozens...

Barkey War Profiteer from Bunker 051 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
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Apr 23rd 2013 at 4:22:26 AM

So gonna echo what some folks said in that the premise of "One night where nothing is illegal" has a lot of cool things you can do with it, but a lame home invasion story is not one of them.

I'd still enforce the law, just as a vigilante... An entire squadron of military police who take off the uniforms for one night to go skeet shooting with looters and rapists instead of clays. That'd make a fun movie.

That'd be some pretty serious shit though. You'd get the people who bunker up for the night, the ones who just decide they want to do drugs for a night, but then you get the targeted acts of specific revenge, attempts at big crimes, and then people who randomly want to just exercise that dark human urge to murder or rape someone.

edited 23rd Apr '13 4:23:25 AM by Barkey

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Apr 23rd 2013 at 5:07:07 AM

[up][up] Ah ha, but if you watch the trailer, look it up on Wikipedia and IMDb, you'd be surprised just how tropes fall into your lap! The film hasn't been released yet, but I'm sure it will be, because movie release dates seem to be more set-in-stone than video game releases. Besides, which is better, to set up a page for something before its release or after?

[up] The premise is loaded with Fanfic Fuel, isn't it? grin

edited 23rd Apr '13 5:08:32 AM by TiggersAreGreat

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Apr 23rd 2013 at 6:01:46 AM

The premise could've made for a good TV series, and a long-running one too. Just instead of a single night, extend it to happen several times in a year, and every episode could focus on the plans of a particular group during each event. One episode could be about a man plotting something petty, like killing his ex-wife and getting all his money and property back from the divorce while at the same time the wife tries to plan out a defense. Another could be about a more organized group trying to pull off a heist, only to run into complications when they realize the target they're hitting has a well-armed private security firm protecting it. Another could focus on how the police runs "safety zones" during the nights for those who cannot protect themselves, such as hospitals, the homeles, etc. And another could take Barkey's idea about law-enforcement types becoming vigilantes and hunting down targets who escaped justice or simply gunning down anybody acting funny that night.

Really, to constrain this idea to a single movie with a horror-suspense plot, focus only on a single family, and not how the rest of the nation is dealing with such a law reeks of wasted potential.

edited 23rd Apr '13 6:04:29 AM by SgtRicko

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Apr 23rd 2013 at 10:32:15 AM

[up][up] Is that a loaded question of some kind? After.

There's inclusions on the page that can't even be justified yet. Particularly when people know how trailers always lie.

dRoy Ready to Rant from The Happy Place Relationship Status: A cockroach, nothing can kill it.
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Apr 26th 2013 at 11:54:09 AM

@Barkey - Law enforcement/military out of uniform working as a vigilante force? Now that's an awesome idea.

edited 26th Apr '13 11:54:23 AM by dRoy

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Lawyerdude Citizen from my secret moon base
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Apr 27th 2013 at 11:07:28 AM

That was one of the first things I thought of too. Most people are naturally decent, and I'd be willing to wager that a lot of cops, soldiers, or decent-minded citizens would take up arms and protect people during the Purge.

On the Fridge Horror side of things, imagine what would happen inside of hospitals, jails or prisons. A doctor could just go around pulling plugs or doing horrible experiments on patients.

And then I also wonder what would happen the next day? Would anyone actually believe that there wouldn't be acts of revenge taken? If not the next day, then the next year?

And yeah, why wouldn't a family rich enough to fortify their house also have included gun ports and murder holes to stop people who try to break in? It also seems like a really easy system to disarm. A single button, out in the open, to lock or unlock the entire house?

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kalel94 Rascal King from Dragonstone
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Apr 27th 2013 at 11:10:55 AM

On the Fridge Horror side of things, imagine what would happen inside of hospitals, jails or prisons. A doctor could just go around pulling plugs or doing horrible experiments on patients.

And then I also wonder what would happen the next day? Would anyone actually believe that there wouldn't be acts of revenge taken? If not the next day, then the next year?

Something tells me this movie isn't smart enough to think of stuff like that.

The last hurrah? Nah, I'd do it again.
Lawyerdude Citizen from my secret moon base
Citizen
Apr 27th 2013 at 11:21:19 AM

I can't help but imagine what I would do in that sort of situation. I'd probably rent out a storage unit and put one of those prefabricated storm shelters inside, then lock myself in with my valuables, some movies or a book for the night. The next day I'd go home and probably call my insurance company.

What we obtain too cheap, we esteem too lightly.
Colonial1.1 Crazed Lawrencian from The Marvelous River City Relationship Status: In season
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Apr 27th 2013 at 11:51:54 PM

d Roy: Oi! I thought of that one first!

But yeah. Lots of deeply unpleasant people are going to be dead by night's end.

edited 27th Apr '13 11:52:36 PM by Colonial1.1

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Apr 28th 2013 at 5:17:58 AM

[up] Maybe that's why it's called...The Purge. <Fridge Horror>

Maybe the plotline behind the movie is not the best one ever seen, but you have to admit that there are a lot of ideas attached to it just begging to be explored. If the guys behind the movie don't explore them, then maybe someone else should.

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DeviantBraeburn Wandering Jew from Dysfunctional California
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Apr 29th 2013 at 9:41:01 PM

I have mixed feelings about this flick.

On one hand, the trailer does make this movie seem really creepy. I can already tell this is gonna be a better flick than The Strangers

On the other, the plotline is really stupid. I mean the US Government couldn't think of any better way to solve the problem of overcrowded prisons and high crime rates? Escape from New York's idea of turning Manhattan into a giant prison was a better solution than this is.

edited 29th Apr '13 9:41:43 PM by DeviantBraeburn

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dRoy Ready to Rant from The Happy Place Relationship Status: A cockroach, nothing can kill it.
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May 1st 2013 at 11:28:08 AM

You know, now I am subscribing to the idea that the Purge is not created for the people, but for the government; Purge is only a bait to draw out criminals so can government can terminate them via out of uniform, law enforcement equivalent of black ops enforcers.

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Lawyerdude Citizen from my secret moon base
Citizen
May 1st 2013 at 12:43:08 PM

[up] That idea is too clever by half. I doubt Hollywood would have thought of that. It occurs to me that this film's premise could make for ripe Fan Fic fodder.

Another thing that bothers me is the explicitly stated assumptions that 1) The Purge would somehow lead to no crime and economic prosperity, 2) That deep down many, if not most, people are horrible people, 3) Giving the horrible people one night a year to indulge their darkest desires would have no repercussions the rest of the year, and 4) Indulging your negative emotions somehow gets rid of them. That final one, the whole "Get the anger out of your system by indulging your violent urges" is pop psychology nonsense and is downright dangerous to believe.

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May 3rd 2013 at 11:56:26 AM

I was at a premiere screening.

The movie is okay. Straightforward thriller. Also, the trailers gave away far too much of the third act.

There are some great moments of levity in the film, and there's the director's explanation of how he got the idea, that made me think it would have been better as a Verhoeven-style black comedy.

May 4th 2013 at 5:16:12 AM

Well, it sure is interesting how the Unfortunate Implications get mentioned. But Word of God says it's intentional. So...if UI is unintentional and the creator says that it is intentional, then it's not really UI, is it? <Raises eyebrows>

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May 4th 2013 at 7:33:30 AM

^ No, it's not. If the effect is intentional, then it doesn't count as UI. Word of God qualifies for "intentional".

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Prowler Caw! Caw! Relationship Status: It's so nice to be turned on again
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May 4th 2013 at 9:26:21 AM

It was not intentional. The director said so. The role of the homeless man was written with no regard for race.

May 27th 2013 at 3:07:29 PM

"You know, now I am subscribing to the idea that the Purge is not created for the people, but for the government; Purge is only a bait to draw out criminals so can government can terminate them via out of uniform, law enforcement equivalent of black ops enforcers."

I read somewhere that The Purge really is for the government, not the people. Why spend money rehabilitating the psychos or finding homes for the homeless when they can just kill each other off? Massive savings right there!

Lawyerdude has an excellent point. I hate how this movie assumes that people immediately will go on killing sprees simply because they can. In many places, if this "no law" thing was in effect, there would a huge drunken party/orgy in the town square, simply because it's awesome. And in maybe 95% of cases of "my neighbor is an asshole", the neighbor would probably just get beaten up pretty badly and given a "The Reason You Suck" Speech. The kind of psycho you'd have to be to torture your asshole neighbor (instead of, you know, just putting a bullet through his head, and only if he did something totally unforgivable) is blown way out of proportion. But hey, that's the film industry for you.


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