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One thing I've noticed is that for all how the page for They Might Be Giants claims them to be the unofficial official band of this wiki, there's relatively few people on this site who seem to ever reference them.

Edited by GastonRabbit on Oct 13th 2024 at 12:59:03 PM

Twiddler (On A Trope Odyssey)
#23276: Jun 10th 2025 at 7:44:22 PM

[up] It does distinguish between the different notifier types.


Literally just realized that Subverted Rhyme Every Occasion's name is self-demonstrating.

Subverted Rhyme Every Time Occasion

AnotherOnlinePersona Killed by Chills from Harlequin Forest Since: Dec, 2022
Killed by Chills
#23277: Jun 10th 2025 at 7:59:51 PM

Up until this point, I kept reading Subverted Rhyme Every Occasion as Subverted Rhyme On Every Occasion.

GastonRabbit C'est la vie. (he/him) from Robinson, Illinois, USA (General of TV Troops) Relationship Status: I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me
C'est la vie. (he/him)
#23278: Jun 10th 2025 at 8:32:16 PM

Edit: Never mind.

Edited by GastonRabbit on Jun 10th 2025 at 10:32:33 AM

I got a rock for Halloween.
BackSet1 I <3 Zinnia from I'm sure you'd love to know that, wouldn't you? (Experienced, Not Yet Jaded) Relationship Status: Yes, I'm alone, but I'm alone and free
I <3 Zinnia
#23279: Jun 11th 2025 at 2:31:35 AM

You ever read through your old edits and are filled with infinite despair?

Read Pokemon Ultimate Emerald
TomGut The Pantheon's nickname guy [he/him] from Chile (Apprentice) Relationship Status: All I Want for Christmas is a Girlfriend
The Pantheon's nickname guy [he/him]
#23280: Jun 11th 2025 at 4:09:56 AM

[up]I once edited a page, but an extension I had to remove transphobic slurs inadvertently changed RobotGirl and CatGirl to Robotrans girl and Catrans girl.

It was my first edit.

Edited by TomGut on Jun 11th 2025 at 4:10:09 AM

Yippee
Reymma RJ Savoy from Edinburgh Since: Feb, 2015 Relationship Status: Wanna dance with somebody
RJ Savoy
#23281: Jun 11th 2025 at 4:25:42 AM

The table format used to be on a few other pages, you can see it on Super Weight (though not for examples), but it's fallen out of use because the site's software tends to mangle it badly, not only on phone screens but even on normal computer screens.

Edited by Reymma on Jun 11th 2025 at 12:26:04 PM

Stories don't tell us monsters exist; we knew that already. They show us that monsters can be trademarked and milked for years.
GastonRabbit C'est la vie. (he/him) from Robinson, Illinois, USA (General of TV Troops) Relationship Status: I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me
C'est la vie. (he/him)
#23282: Jun 11th 2025 at 6:17:10 AM

[up]That's why TRS changed Dueling Works to use bullet points instead of tables. The old table format for those pages often rendered columns with each line containing either one word or just part of a word (in the latter case, with the other parts of the word being on at least one additional line) because of how ugly it was.

Edit: Regarding what was said about that being the case for both mobile and desktop, I only post and edit on desktop and not mobile and the tables were still hard to follow before they were replaced.

Edited by GastonRabbit on Jun 11th 2025 at 8:22:06 AM

I got a rock for Halloween.
ReginaldOgron5 Est Ut Squimplex Ut from Two blocks down from the Undead Burg Since: Mar, 2022 Relationship Status: I want you to want me
Est Ut Squimplex Ut
#23283: Jun 11th 2025 at 6:22:17 AM

[up] x4 My earliest edits are OK, though they have some formatting and tonal issues. I often try to learn as much as I can about how something works before I jump into it so that I don't make an ass of myself.

Now, the TLP, on the other hand, I jumped into without understanding anything and made the egregious mistake that so many other newbies do, thinking that the TLP is more of a "Hey, here's an idea for a trope! Someone should make that!" forum than a rigorous guideline on how to launch new tropes yourself. By providence someone else did want to make the trope I was suggesting (it became Mantis Mating Meal), so I was able to see what a good TLP draft looked like very quickly, but still.

Edited by ReginaldOgron5 on Jun 11th 2025 at 6:22:31 AM

Wenn sie die Ente hierein lassen, lasse ich das Wasser hieraus!
HoloMew151 Space Gal from From Deep, Deep Space Since: Jun, 2021 Relationship Status: Tweaking my holographic boyfriend
Space Gal
#23284: Jun 11th 2025 at 7:51:18 AM

My first TLP draft was successful (became Ghostly Animals) since I read through the page on how to make a good draft. Now what tripped me was the belief that I could do animal morality tropes. Needless to say I learned my lesson quickly. Also did a trope draft on present day dinosaur civilisations which also floundered quickly (something to do with it being covered by other tropes).

BackSet1 I <3 Zinnia from I'm sure you'd love to know that, wouldn't you? (Experienced, Not Yet Jaded) Relationship Status: Yes, I'm alone, but I'm alone and free
I <3 Zinnia
#23285: Jun 11th 2025 at 8:49:53 AM

My first (and so far only) TLP draft was somehow successful despite the fact that I abandoned it.

Unless someone just proposed the same Trope as me later.

It was Fantastic Terrorists.

Edited by BackSet1 on Jun 11th 2025 at 11:50:06 AM

Read Pokemon Ultimate Emerald
Reymma RJ Savoy from Edinburgh Since: Feb, 2015 Relationship Status: Wanna dance with somebody
RJ Savoy
#23286: Jun 11th 2025 at 9:51:27 AM

I had been reading the wiki for a while before making an account (not this one, an earlier one), and I have always been meticulous and articulate in my writing, so I didn't commit any egregious mistakes. My early faults were more of omission: partly that I lacked the courage to remove natter or misuse (there weren't as many cleanup threads back then), and worse than that, I never cross-wicked.

But while I have left many contributions on the wiki, I have never been able to make a TLP draft with any traction.

Stories don't tell us monsters exist; we knew that already. They show us that monsters can be trademarked and milked for years.
Sourguy Doesn't do much (He/Him) from The Peach State Since: Oct, 2021 Relationship Status: You're a beautiful woman, probably
Doesn't do much (He/Him)
#23287: Jun 11th 2025 at 6:05:33 PM

The AwesomeMusic/ and FanficRecs/ namespaces might be the only areas on the wiki where the Weblinks Are Not Examples rule takes a backseat (for the most part, anyway).

Currently Reading: N/A
WarJay77 It's NaNo, Bay-beeee! (8,356/50,000) from My Writing Cave (Troper Knight) Relationship Status: Armed with the Power of Love
It's NaNo, Bay-beeee! (8,356/50,000)
#23288: Jun 11th 2025 at 6:12:45 PM

Yeah, that's a bad thing and we've been trying for years to enforce proper context in those areas. Linking to videos for context isn't valid no matter where you are, but certain areas are harder to police.

Edit: Well, Fanfic Recs is a bit different since you aren't writing examples. But the Awesome Music stuff has been a wiki bugbear for a while

Edited by WarJay77 on Jun 11th 2025 at 9:13:53 AM

Working on: Author Appeal | Sandbox | Troper Wall
ReginaldOgron5 Est Ut Squimplex Ut from Two blocks down from the Undead Burg Since: Mar, 2022 Relationship Status: I want you to want me
Est Ut Squimplex Ut
#23289: Jun 11th 2025 at 7:58:00 PM

[up] To play devil's advocate for Awesome Music ZCEs, in my experience as an avid Awesome Music example adder it really is difficult sometimes to say "this music is really awesome because..." five different times without repeating yourself or sounding like a drooling idiot. Obviously just dumping a link isn't the solution, but it requires more eloquence in describing something than the average example requires. AM examples and pages are probably the stuff I try to draft out beforehand the most.

Wenn sie die Ente hierein lassen, lasse ich das Wasser hieraus!
WarJay77 It's NaNo, Bay-beeee! (8,356/50,000) from My Writing Cave (Troper Knight) Relationship Status: Armed with the Power of Love
It's NaNo, Bay-beeee! (8,356/50,000)
#23290: Jun 11th 2025 at 7:58:51 PM

Oh, I'm not disagreeing there. Adding context to those is notoriously hard, which is part of why enforcing context has been hard as well. A lot of people just can't describe music well; I certainly can't

Edited by WarJay77 on Jun 11th 2025 at 10:59:16 AM

Working on: Author Appeal | Sandbox | Troper Wall
Bluethorn CHOMPION from Partash Since: Jan, 2018 Relationship Status: Star-crossed
CHOMPION
#23291: Jun 12th 2025 at 4:41:02 AM

Image Pickin' be like...

https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/image_pickin_being_weird.png

Hmmm?

Tbh I never really hated his minigames in the original, but they did make them better in the remake.
Amonimus the "Retromancer" from <<|Wiki Talk|>> (Sergeant) Relationship Status: In another castle
the "Retromancer"
#23292: Jun 12th 2025 at 4:53:26 AM

[up] There's nothing preventing from making a thread if two people are in the new thread form at 74.

TroperWall / WikiMagic Cleanup
plakythebirb The Unwilling Cycle from The Deep South (Handed A Sword) Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
The Unwilling Cycle
#23293: Jun 12th 2025 at 8:58:49 AM

So I only just now realized that my image suggestion for Sole Surviving Scientist actually went through.

Welcome To Ideals' World
TomGut The Pantheon's nickname guy [he/him] from Chile (Apprentice) Relationship Status: All I Want for Christmas is a Girlfriend
The Pantheon's nickname guy [he/him]
#23294: Jun 12th 2025 at 9:00:00 AM

[up] Teto moment

Yippee
themayorofsimpleton Short-Term Projects Herald | he/him from the Island of Koridai (Captain) Relationship Status: I won't say I'm in love
Short-Term Projects Herald | he/him
#23295: Jun 12th 2025 at 10:14:55 AM

Here's a question: are there any tropes that are newer than you expected them to be? Gloomy Gray has only been around since 2020, but it feels like a concept that is established enough that it should have been around longer. Are there any tropes anyone here has noticed that are like that?


On an unrelated note, the quote on Egging is from the exact source I was thinking of when I saw the trope. Big fan of the Beastie Boys so I approve.

Edited by themayorofsimpleton on Jun 12th 2025 at 1:16:23 PM

Works That Require Cleanup of Complaining | Troper Wall
WarJay77 It's NaNo, Bay-beeee! (8,356/50,000) from My Writing Cave (Troper Knight) Relationship Status: Armed with the Power of Love
It's NaNo, Bay-beeee! (8,356/50,000)
#23296: Jun 12th 2025 at 10:18:41 AM

Yeah, Gloomy Gray was mine. I was surprised nobody had made it before.

Some tropes just seem so obvious that nobody's actually thought to make them, and then when someone does, everyone is like "we didn't have this yet?!"

Working on: Author Appeal | Sandbox | Troper Wall
Bluethorn CHOMPION from Partash Since: Jan, 2018 Relationship Status: Star-crossed
CHOMPION
#23297: Jun 12th 2025 at 11:16:29 AM

Cyber Green didn't exist until 2022, and "Life-Giving Oasis" is only now being put through TLP.

Tbh I never really hated his minigames in the original, but they did make them better in the remake.
plakythebirb The Unwilling Cycle from The Deep South (Handed A Sword) Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
The Unwilling Cycle
#23298: Jun 12th 2025 at 12:04:31 PM

I have an idea for an image for Common Crossover, but my idea in concept requires bits of fanart and I'm not sure how the procedure goes for those cases. Should I just come up with my idea, pop it into the suggestion thread, and then if it's received well get the actual perms to use it?

Edited by plakythebirb on Jun 12th 2025 at 12:04:41 PM

Welcome To Ideals' World
HoloMew151 Space Gal from From Deep, Deep Space Since: Jun, 2021 Relationship Status: Tweaking my holographic boyfriend
Space Gal
#23299: Jun 12th 2025 at 1:48:14 PM

I remember being surprised that Cannot Kill Their Loved Ones is only three years old.

WarJay77 It's NaNo, Bay-beeee! (8,356/50,000) from My Writing Cave (Troper Knight) Relationship Status: Armed with the Power of Love
It's NaNo, Bay-beeee! (8,356/50,000)
#23300: Jun 12th 2025 at 3:50:24 PM

Burly Blacksmith is one I thought for sure we would have had, it's an extremely common fantasy archetype

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