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One thing I've noticed is that for all how the page for They Might Be Giants claims them to be the unofficial official band of this wiki, there's relatively few people on this site who seem to ever reference them.

Edited by GastonRabbit on Oct 13th 2024 at 12:59:03 PM

AegisP Kindhearted SSSSSNAKE Man Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
Kindhearted SSSSSNAKE Man
#21776: Oct 31st 2024 at 1:29:22 PM

To be fair, I dont know where this cleanup took place and I am kind of an old troper. To be honest, I dont mind any changes the cleanups do, I trust them it is mostly for the better in most cases.

As long as this flower is in my heart. My Strength will flow without end.
Demetrios Lucky Seven from Des Plaines, Illinois (unfortunately) Since: Oct, 2009 Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
Lucky Seven
#21777: Oct 31st 2024 at 1:29:44 PM

@AegisP: “Toblerone”? :S tongue

Edited by Demetrios on Oct 31st 2024 at 3:30:12 AM

Come on! Let's bless them all until we get fershnickered!
AegisP Kindhearted SSSSSNAKE Man Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
Kindhearted SSSSSNAKE Man
#21778: Oct 31st 2024 at 1:32:48 PM

[up] Extremely obscure and clique-ish trope name for Boisterous Bruiser.

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Demetrios Lucky Seven from Des Plaines, Illinois (unfortunately) Since: Oct, 2009 Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
themayorofsimpleton Short-Term Projects Herald | he/him from the Island of Koridai (Captain) Relationship Status: I won't say I'm in love
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#21780: Oct 31st 2024 at 1:44:52 PM

Oh no, I wasn't arguing we shouldn't — I'm active enough in TRS that I believe quite the opposite.

It was just a stray observation that probably wasn't even true. I apologize for any misunderstanding.

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AegisP Kindhearted SSSSSNAKE Man Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
Kindhearted SSSSSNAKE Man
#21781: Oct 31st 2024 at 1:46:48 PM

[up] Dont worry! I... I...Kinda forgot where I was going with this. LOL. But I think we need to make changes and so on more intuitive for the average troper. Even if their opinions wont really sway things in the end.

As long as this flower is in my heart. My Strength will flow without end.
themayorofsimpleton Short-Term Projects Herald | he/him from the Island of Koridai (Captain) Relationship Status: I won't say I'm in love
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#21782: Oct 31st 2024 at 2:08:01 PM

[up] Funny you mention that, we’re discussing TRS improvements in Wiki Talk actually right now. Feel free to pitch in if you’ve got ideas.

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KaabiiFan13 Since: Apr, 2022
#21783: Oct 31st 2024 at 3:20:03 PM

I do recall reading multiple posts from some sites over the years discussing how this wiki seems to be deleting tropes in an increasing rate. Though I understand where this fear seems to come from (deleting a Trope from this site can be seen as removing our own history), I personally don't mind getting rid of tropes that give this site a bad name.

WarJay77 It's NaNo, Bay-beeee! (8,356/50,000) from My Writing Cave (Troper Knight) Relationship Status: Armed with the Power of Love
It's NaNo, Bay-beeee! (8,356/50,000)
#21784: Oct 31st 2024 at 5:56:31 PM

Yeah... the anti-TRS sentiment has literally been around forever. It pops up now and again, mostly because people get attached to specific tropes but aren't paying enough attention to protest when they can.

I'm not sure if we've actually been making more cuts recently, but we have been going after bigger and messier tropes, so that may have something to do with it

Edited by WarJay77 on Oct 31st 2024 at 8:58:58 AM

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SharkToast Since: Mar, 2013
#21786: Nov 1st 2024 at 5:08:34 AM

Off site, the trope I've seen get the most complaining about being cut is Darth Vader Clone.

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Troy Verde
#21787: Nov 1st 2024 at 1:56:44 PM

Always quite good when I'm editing a YMMV page and the first thing I see is a commented-out note that says something like "Please stop with the [thing almost universally considered bad] complaining. No matter how you feel about it, this is not the place to express your opinions."

Guys how cool would it be if Super Megaforce had a green ranger...
AegisP Kindhearted SSSSSNAKE Man Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
Kindhearted SSSSSNAKE Man
#21788: Nov 1st 2024 at 1:58:27 PM

[up] I dont know if this is sarcasm but I would say this IS a good thing. Because tropers cant help themselves otherwise. It is for the best to just nip it in the bud.

As long as this flower is in my heart. My Strength will flow without end.
GastonRabbit C'est la vie. (he/him) from Robinson, Illinois, USA (General of TV Troops) Relationship Status: I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me
C'est la vie. (he/him)
#21789: Nov 1st 2024 at 6:04:45 PM

The complaints always come after the decision gets made, for some reason. It's not like we hide this stuff in a secret underground lair to prevent anyone from giving their input.

Well, yeah, we don't hide the decision-making process in a secret underground lair. We save the secret underground lair for the rituals for selecting new mods and engineers.

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NitroIndigo ♀ | Small ripples lead to big waves from West Midlands region, England Since: Jun, 2021 Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
♀ | Small ripples lead to big waves
#21790: Nov 2nd 2024 at 3:16:55 AM

I just noticed that ComicBook.Wings Of Fire is the root page for the namespace. Is there any way to change that?

SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#21791: Nov 2nd 2024 at 3:30:38 AM

Here but keep in mind that it's the most popular medium that gets flagged as root, not the original medium.

Folks have been complaining about TRS decisions all the time, for longer than I have been around. Especially 2010-2011, it's possible that they picked back up recently but that's not something I am sure about.

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Reymma RJ Savoy from Edinburgh Since: Feb, 2015 Relationship Status: Wanna dance with somebody
RJ Savoy
#21792: Nov 3rd 2024 at 9:16:19 AM

I remember one user, who I would consider hard-working and level-headed in general, considered it an absolute abomination that Hadaka Apron had been renamed Naked Apron.

I think in the early years, anger over renaming was muted by the fact that wicks were not systematically changed. This allowed editors to continue using their pet trope names on pages they edited. Once using alternative names was ruled out, protests became vocal, but usually from only a few users. True Companions' old name, "Nakama", drew a lot of passion on both sides. I remember seeing both a thread complaining that trope names with Anglophone references were being renamed but Japanese ones kept, and another around the same time complaining the opposite.

And Exactly What It Says on the Tin sure is a magnet, most trope pages don't have one but at least three potholes.

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NitroIndigo ♀ | Small ripples lead to big waves from West Midlands region, England Since: Jun, 2021 Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
♀ | Small ripples lead to big waves
#21793: Nov 3rd 2024 at 9:59:01 AM

My hobby for today has been adding images to the Characters.Wings Of Fire subpages, and I noticed that you can upload images that are less that 800 pixels wide again. Is this an oversight?

Excessive-Menace Time to SLEEP from the Velvet Cage (Fifth Year at Tropey's) Relationship Status: Dancing with myself
Time to SLEEP
#21794: Nov 3rd 2024 at 11:47:52 AM

[up] On character pages, it's allowed to upload images that are at least 400px wide. This is an intentional feature.

Edited by Excessive-Menace on Nov 3rd 2024 at 11:48:13 AM

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themayorofsimpleton Short-Term Projects Herald | he/him from the Island of Koridai (Captain) Relationship Status: I won't say I'm in love
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#21795: Nov 4th 2024 at 10:53:24 AM

Noticing another general decrease in site activity. Not sure why — probably related to the holidays/numerous exams coming up.

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GastonRabbit C'est la vie. (he/him) from Robinson, Illinois, USA (General of TV Troops) Relationship Status: I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me
C'est la vie. (he/him)
#21796: Nov 4th 2024 at 5:14:01 PM

[up]That being the reason would make sense.

Edited by GastonRabbit on Nov 4th 2024 at 7:15:42 AM

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AegisP Kindhearted SSSSSNAKE Man Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
Kindhearted SSSSSNAKE Man
#21797: Nov 4th 2024 at 5:21:36 PM

I am tempted to add "Pretty Much Any Fighting game" to Better as a Let's Play. Not to complain or cause I hate the genre, but I rather get bored eventually but experts players can be SERIOUSLY mesmerizing to watch play. They do epic shit.

I wont do it but I had to say it.

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BlackFaithStar [Hiatus til March] from 🇲🇾 (UTC plus 8) (Less Newbie) Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
[Hiatus til March]
#21798: Nov 4th 2024 at 5:52:24 PM

I got a day-long exam (four papers) on the 16th so yeah.

I've been doing more offline/personal projects so that's why I'm less active in general.

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GastonRabbit C'est la vie. (he/him) from Robinson, Illinois, USA (General of TV Troops) Relationship Status: I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me
C'est la vie. (he/him)
#21799: Nov 4th 2024 at 7:45:59 PM

[up][up]While it would violate Examples Are Not General on the main page, if an Analysis/ subpage discussing why people have that reaction toward some games is made (there isn't currently one), maybe that could be mentioned there, possibly among other trends in how the reaction comes about.

Edited by GastonRabbit on Nov 4th 2024 at 9:47:56 AM

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AegisP Kindhearted SSSSSNAKE Man Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
Kindhearted SSSSSNAKE Man
#21800: Nov 4th 2024 at 8:00:45 PM

[up] Actually, to my surprise the precise point I wanted to make has ALREADY been added to the page. I guess I wasnt the only one who felt that way.

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