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One thing I've noticed is that for all how the page for They Might Be Giants claims them to be the unofficial official band of this wiki, there's relatively few people on this site who seem to ever reference them.

Edited by GastonRabbit on Oct 13th 2024 at 12:59:03 PM

GastonRabbit C'est la vie. (he/him) from Robinson, Illinois, USA (General of TV Troops) Relationship Status: I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me
C'est la vie. (he/him)
#19976: Nov 29th 2023 at 1:13:42 PM

It's a shame that all these factions never answered the true question — who is eating this dinner?

Well, I'll take the salt if it means the site will keep my sodium levels from getting too low again.

Edited by GastonRabbit on Nov 29th 2023 at 3:13:54 AM

I got a rock for Halloween.
MsOranjeDiscoDancer 2much2furious from the Saja Boys' last performance! Since: Aug, 2022 Relationship Status: Will you go out with me to the End?
2much2furious
#19977: Nov 29th 2023 at 1:19:33 PM

im really more like the bacteria lurking in the food

[up][up]au contraire, and i am never going to stop finding weird arguments naming based on "but Europeans haven't heard of this work or term!" funny

the more annoying thing are people overusing "chairs" for whatever they dont like anyway

i may be dead inside but at least i have Mystery :,)
WarJay77 It's NaNo, Bay-beeee! (3,795/50,000) from My Writing Cave (Troper Knight) Relationship Status: Armed with the Power of Love
It's NaNo, Bay-beeee! (3,795/50,000)
#19978: Nov 29th 2023 at 1:26:34 PM

"Chairs" haw definitely become a bloated term that many don't understand because over time it became synonymous with "not a trope"... but there are more ways to lack tropeworthiness than being chairs-y, such as by being a nonexistent pattern.

"Natter" is another concept I often see misused because people basically use it to mean "word cruft"

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Noaqiyeum we must dissent (it/they) from across the gulf of space (Time Abyss) Relationship Status: Arm chopping is not a love language!
we must dissent (it/they)
#19979: Nov 29th 2023 at 1:28:32 PM

"Natter" sounds more like a "bad writing" term than "word cruft", in a bouba/kiki way.

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MsOranjeDiscoDancer 2much2furious from the Saja Boys' last performance! Since: Aug, 2022 Relationship Status: Will you go out with me to the End?
2much2furious
#19980: Nov 29th 2023 at 1:32:54 PM
Thumped: for switching the discussion from the topic to a person. Doesn't take many of this kind of thump to bring a suspension. Stay on the topic, not the people in the discussion.
i may be dead inside but at least i have Mystery :,)
FernandoLemon Nobody Here from Argentina (Troper Knight) Relationship Status: Staying up all night to get lucky
#19981: Nov 29th 2023 at 1:33:44 PM

Natter is also a redirect, probably because it doesn't mean anything.

I'd like to apologize for all this.
WarJay77 It's NaNo, Bay-beeee! (3,795/50,000) from My Writing Cave (Troper Knight) Relationship Status: Armed with the Power of Love
It's NaNo, Bay-beeee! (3,795/50,000)
#19982: Nov 29th 2023 at 1:46:21 PM

Well, it means conversation on the main page. It doesn't lack a definition, it's just a word that not everyone will get. It's just "the bad editing practice"

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GastonRabbit MOD C'est la vie. (he/him) from Robinson, Illinois, USA (General of TV Troops) Relationship Status: I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me
C'est la vie. (he/him)
#19983: Nov 29th 2023 at 1:52:14 PM

[up][up][up]Let's not single out other users here, particularly ones not part of this conversation.

Edited by GastonRabbit on Nov 29th 2023 at 3:56:56 AM

I got a rock for Halloween.
MsOranjeDiscoDancer 2much2furious from the Saja Boys' last performance! Since: Aug, 2022 Relationship Status: Will you go out with me to the End?
2much2furious
#19984: Nov 29th 2023 at 2:33:53 PM

sorry, i didnt mean to single them out. i meant to clarify i do the same thing since i think everyone who removed cruft and natter back then just used 'natter'

'natter' sounds fancier anyway

i may be dead inside but at least i have Mystery :,)
CosmicCat mystical cat (he/they) from in the Annexe Since: Jan, 2017 Relationship Status: It's a Russian taunt
mystical cat (he/they)
#19985: Nov 29th 2023 at 3:00:11 PM

IRL I have several important academic tasks I need to work on... yet since yesterday I've been hooked on Entry Pimping the page for an obscure, long-defunct subsection of the PBS Kids website, as one does. I didn't even know that part of the website existed until then, save for a Flash game I liked as a kid (which I thought was its own thing).

"Let's hear it for Nine Inch Nails! Woo, they're good!"
Reymma RJ Savoy from Edinburgh Since: Feb, 2015 Relationship Status: Wanna dance with somebody
RJ Savoy
#19986: Nov 29th 2023 at 5:05:18 PM

The problem is that we use "natter" in an idiosyncratic way. Outside of that, it's fair to use it for any rambling paragraph that goes off on tangents, no matter the indentation.

Stories don't tell us monsters exist; we knew that already. They show us that monsters can be trademarked and milked for years.
BlackFaithStar [Hiatus til March] from 🇲🇾 (UTC plus 8) (Less Newbie) Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
[Hiatus til March]
#19987: Nov 30th 2023 at 8:23:21 AM

Is there a thread for Sandbox.Pages Incorrectly Moved By Custom Title? I want to help, but it's unclear which pages have and haven't been moved, and for which of each two pages the wick counts are for.

When you're alone I'm reaching out to let you know that you're far from strangers, like the savior
GastonRabbit C'est la vie. (he/him) from Robinson, Illinois, USA (General of TV Troops) Relationship Status: I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me
C'est la vie. (he/him)
#19988: Nov 30th 2023 at 8:40:44 AM

We just use the thread for requesting page history moves for correcting those titles. This post used that thread for that kind of move.

Edit: I think it would help if the sandbox kept track of which pages had already been moved for pages that have the correct name as a redirect instead of a red link.

Edited by GastonRabbit on Nov 30th 2023 at 10:50:09 AM

I got a rock for Halloween.
MsOranjeDiscoDancer 2much2furious from the Saja Boys' last performance! Since: Aug, 2022 Relationship Status: Will you go out with me to the End?
2much2furious
#19989: Dec 1st 2023 at 9:30:14 AM

late to the party but i vaguely recall fasteddie saying natter = "needless chatter"

speaking of fasteddie, was there a third guy who helped make the wiki? not the guy who did that Drunkard's Walk story, iirc this guy left within a few months

i may be dead inside but at least i have Mystery :,)
GastonRabbit C'est la vie. (he/him) from Robinson, Illinois, USA (General of TV Troops) Relationship Status: I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me
MacronNotes (she/her) (Captain) Relationship Status: Less than three
(she/her)
#19991: Dec 1st 2023 at 9:39:36 AM

He created the wiki with Janitor and Gus. The later before the site got formalized I think and Janitor disappeared sometime between 2009 and 2010

Macron's notes
NitroIndigo ♀ | Small ripples lead to big waves from West Midlands region, England Since: Jun, 2021 Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
♀ | Small ripples lead to big waves
#19992: Dec 2nd 2023 at 1:38:32 AM

I've noticed that a lot of TLP drafts over a decade old have been commented on lately.

Amonimus the "Retromancer" from <<|Wiki Talk|>> (Sergeant) Relationship Status: In another castle
the "Retromancer"
#19993: Dec 2nd 2023 at 5:36:30 AM

Because people keep bumping them?

Edited by Amonimus on Dec 2nd 2023 at 4:36:38 PM

TroperWall / WikiMagic Cleanup
Malady (X-Troper)
#19994: Dec 2nd 2023 at 8:20:42 PM

Of the 1.3% of web that is ISO-8859-1, we might actually not be a big contributor?

https://w3techs.com/technologies/details/en-iso885901 if the "Popular sites using ISO-8859-1" list is the top 10.

Edited by Malady on Dec 2nd 2023 at 8:21:14 AM

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Amonimus the "Retromancer" from <<|Wiki Talk|>> (Sergeant) Relationship Status: In another castle
the "Retromancer"
#19995: Dec 2nd 2023 at 11:26:09 PM

How these journalists even know how these databases are encoded?

Edited by Amonimus on Dec 2nd 2023 at 10:26:35 PM

TroperWall / WikiMagic Cleanup
Noaqiyeum we must dissent (it/they) from across the gulf of space (Time Abyss) Relationship Status: Arm chopping is not a love language!
we must dissent (it/they)
#19996: Dec 3rd 2023 at 2:56:56 AM

Using the same kind of bots used for search indexing, I'd guess?

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FernandoLemon Nobody Here from Argentina (Troper Knight) Relationship Status: Staying up all night to get lucky
Malady (X-Troper)
#19998: Dec 3rd 2023 at 8:36:12 AM

I know of Aliexpress.com & Mediafire.com

I'm really wondering what Cosmopolitan's doing by using that encoding.

Here's what they say about us! https://w3techs.com/sites/info/tvtropes.org

Yay to being in the top 10K sites, and now I have an Alexa Internet replacement!

We were hosted in Finland and Norway?

Edited by Malady on Dec 3rd 2023 at 8:38:35 AM

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AegisP Kindhearted SSSSSNAKE Man Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
Kindhearted SSSSSNAKE Man
#19999: Dec 3rd 2023 at 8:39:19 AM

I think Malady got hacked by bots.

As long as this flower is in my heart. My Strength will flow without end.
Malady (X-Troper)
#20000: Dec 3rd 2023 at 8:46:18 AM

[lol] - No, just sorta bored in bed. And I really wanted an up-to-date site ranking, for some reason that I forgot now.

See ya, I think. Gonna go do other Internet things?

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