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One thing I've noticed is that for all how the page for They Might Be Giants claims them to be the unofficial official band of this wiki, there's relatively few people on this site who seem to ever reference them.

Edited by GastonRabbit on Oct 13th 2024 at 12:59:03 PM

GastonRabbit C'est la vie. (he/him) from Robinson, Illinois, USA (General of TV Troops) Relationship Status: I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me
C'est la vie. (he/him)
#15776: Feb 17th 2023 at 9:54:46 AM

Yeah, I don't know what's being referred to either.

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JankyKong He's finally back to kick some... wait from a Secret Base on the Moon Since: May, 2021 Relationship Status: TV Tropes ruined my love life
He's finally back to kick some... wait
#15777: Feb 17th 2023 at 9:55:24 AM

I must be thinking of something different.

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Ultimatum Disasturbator from The Wiggle Room (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#15778: Feb 17th 2023 at 10:02:48 AM

OK so,spoiler tags cos I dunno

1)The She ra topic repeatedly talks about Catra and it's almost always negative

2) The Steven universe (not posted in it awhile) topic suffers from negativity in general

and lastly almost every topic getting derailed by comparisons to Star vs forces of evil's ending,very tiresome.

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Archsage Professional Simp from My House Since: Apr, 2022 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
Professional Simp
#15779: Feb 17th 2023 at 10:09:01 AM

Thats not that bad. Negativity is dumb.

Best advice I ever got? Keep repeating the joke till everyone is forced to laugh.
Ultimatum Disasturbator from The Wiggle Room (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#15780: Feb 17th 2023 at 10:11:55 AM

I imagine its fine to talk about problems with certain threads providing its a)Constructive b)not directly implying its because of certain users

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GastonRabbit C'est la vie. (he/him) from Robinson, Illinois, USA (General of TV Troops) Relationship Status: I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me
C'est la vie. (he/him)
#15781: Feb 17th 2023 at 10:42:11 AM

Just holler if any specific posts are problematic.

I got a rock for Halloween.
NitroIndigo ♀ | Small ripples lead to big waves from West Midlands region, England Since: Jun, 2021 Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
♀ | Small ripples lead to big waves
#15782: Feb 17th 2023 at 11:43:28 AM

The current discussion in the Values 'sonance clean up reminds me, I've never seen the word "occident" used anywhere other than in the title of Occidental Otaku.

Ultimatum Disasturbator from The Wiggle Room (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#15783: Feb 17th 2023 at 11:52:56 AM

Its accidental Occident is not a real word!

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Bluethorn CHOMPION from Partash Since: Jan, 2018 Relationship Status: Star-crossed
CHOMPION
#15784: Feb 17th 2023 at 11:55:57 AM

Yes it is

Tbh I never really hated his minigames in the original, but they did make them better in the remake.
Ultimatum Disasturbator from The Wiggle Room (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#15785: Feb 17th 2023 at 12:00:10 PM

lies,all L I ES

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FernandoLemon Since: Aug, 2015
#15786: Feb 17th 2023 at 12:32:18 PM

Is it not common knowledge that the Occident is the Western part of the world?

Ultimatum Disasturbator from The Wiggle Room (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#15787: Feb 17th 2023 at 12:33:02 PM

Nope

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Piterpicher Veteran Editor IV from Poland, for real (Series 2) Relationship Status: Armed with the Power of Love
Veteran Editor IV
#15788: Feb 17th 2023 at 1:11:15 PM

I sure didn't know. It seemed like some pun on "accidental", like the creators made an otaku character without really knowing the subculture exists.

Edited by Piterpicher on Feb 17th 2023 at 10:11:35 AM

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FernandoLemon Since: Aug, 2015
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mys. minty from the silly dimension
#15790: Feb 17th 2023 at 1:54:24 PM

"Occident" originally paired with "orient", yes, but only one of those stuck around in the collective consciousness.

... *looks this up online on a whim* Apparently it was originally about the sunrise and sunset in particular. Most people definitely remember this even less.

Suddenly I'm... still rotating Fallen London in my mind even though I've stopped actively playing it.
m-95 SauaS GoodooG from my place of residence Since: Jun, 2021 Relationship Status: Loves me...loves me not
SauaS GoodooG
#15791: Feb 17th 2023 at 2:31:58 PM

The current discussion in the Values 'sonance clean up reminds me, I've never seen the word "occident" used anywhere other than in the title of Occidental Otaku.

Personally, I've heard the term "occident" used sometimes when talking about the ancient Roman Empire, especially the later period when it split between East & West. I've also heard of a white supremacist site called Occidental Observer.

. . . And, apart from Occidental Otaku, those are the only times I've heard the word used.


Oddly enough, on the word "Oriental," the only times I've heard it used in a racial context is in discussions about racism (incl. uses of the word "Orientalism"). Other than that, I've heard it used some times to talk about (again) the Roman Empire in it's later years, the concept of "Oriental Despotism," and in the name of a French region called "Pyrénées-Orientales". Which makes it funny when I hear the word "Oriental" applied to Greece or southern France sometimes.

Maybe the whole "saying 'Oriental' is offensive" thing is just one of those things that was a big deal a long time ago, but that I'm too young to have seen myself?

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FernandoLemon Since: Aug, 2015
#15792: Feb 17th 2023 at 2:35:40 PM

[up] In occidenta sita est, in ora mundi

Edited by FernandoLemon on Feb 17th 2023 at 7:36:05 AM

GastonRabbit C'est la vie. (he/him) from Robinson, Illinois, USA (General of TV Troops) Relationship Status: I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me
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#15793: Feb 17th 2023 at 2:36:22 PM

If this discussion regarding word etymologies is an attempt to get me to change the thread's title to "Wiktionary meta thread", it's not working.

Edited by GastonRabbit on Feb 17th 2023 at 4:48:15 AM

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FernandoLemon Since: Aug, 2015
#15794: Feb 17th 2023 at 2:55:31 PM

[up] Oh no, you see right through me.

I found out about The Thing That Goes Doink because it's queued up for TRS. That's a terrible name. It's like the opposite problem that Nakama had.

Edited by FernandoLemon on Feb 17th 2023 at 7:56:07 AM

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#15795: Feb 17th 2023 at 3:06:01 PM

[up]The fact that the usage just involves an ordinary object from Japan (despite the description trying to come up with meaning related to wealthiness) reminds me of Kotatsu, which was redirected to UsefulNotes.Japanese Architecture because furniture items are not tropes. (I added both of them to Tropes Needing TRS quite a while back, before the TRS Queue was created and I started focusing more on the latter.)

Edited by GastonRabbit on Feb 17th 2023 at 5:07:15 AM

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#15796: Feb 17th 2023 at 3:11:45 PM

Nakama recently had an extra addition of hilarity given to me when I learned about Dasein, a word in Heidegger's writing that philosophers refused to translate because it was "super deep" when in reality it just meant existence (literally it just means There Being). So yeah, turns out philosophers do it too.

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GastonRabbit C'est la vie. (he/him) from Robinson, Illinois, USA (General of TV Troops) Relationship Status: I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me
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#15797: Feb 17th 2023 at 3:14:40 PM

[up]You previously brought up how writers aren't good at coming up with trope names, and I think that's worse than the previous examples you gave for being the Nakama debacle years before the Nakama debacle even happened.

Edited by GastonRabbit on Feb 17th 2023 at 5:16:35 AM

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the "Retromancer"
#15798: Feb 17th 2023 at 3:15:00 PM

I think The Thing That Goes Doink could be valid as a trope, but the name contributes to ZCE. I may or may not see if there are examples I recognize as "cue traditional rich family" and which are just decorations.

Edited by Amonimus on Feb 17th 2023 at 2:15:39 PM

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nrjxll Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Not war
#15799: Feb 17th 2023 at 3:20:36 PM

The name actually pretty strongly implies that the page was originally created by western anime fans just going "hey, it's that thing again" and any attempt at giving it an actual meaning was added afterwards.

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#15800: Feb 17th 2023 at 3:23:15 PM

Well, going by the old discussion page the association with wealth was always there.

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