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One thing I've noticed is that for all how the page for They Might Be Giants claims them to be the unofficial official band of this wiki, there's relatively few people on this site who seem to ever reference them.

Edited by GastonRabbit on Oct 13th 2024 at 12:59:03 PM

Bluethorn CHOMPION from Partash Since: Jan, 2018 Relationship Status: Star-crossed
CHOMPION
#15576: Feb 9th 2023 at 6:50:09 PM

[up] Oh, I didn't know that was the old name. That explains it (it really wasn't a very good name considering the trope meaning).

Unrelated: Do we have a trope for when someone like a mortician/gravekeeper is a friendly/cheery person? Like the opposite of Creepy Mortician? I could swear we had that.

Tbh I never really hated his minigames in the original, but they did make them better in the remake.
Malady (X-Troper)
#15577: Feb 9th 2023 at 7:01:24 PM

Makes me think of Autopsy Snack Time.


Anyone know how to get rid of these namespace-less pages? Their contents can only be seen by Folderizer. Can't be cut or edited and possibly can't be moved...

Can they be unlaunched? Or is that tool only possible on Main pages?

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MacronNotes (she/her) (Captain) Relationship Status: Less than three
(she/her)
#15578: Feb 9th 2023 at 7:05:35 PM

Only pages launched through the TLP can be unlaunched. I tried to use the page mover tool to the glitched out pages to no avail.

Anyways, I think that's something to report and archive on Query Bugs.

Edited by MacronNotes on Feb 9th 2023 at 10:06:25 AM

Macron's notes
GastonRabbit C'est la vie. (he/him) from Robinson, Illinois, USA (General of TV Troops) Relationship Status: I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me
C'est la vie. (he/him)
#15579: Feb 9th 2023 at 7:10:10 PM

Innocent Cohabitation (or From Roommates to Romance as it's now known) still has an open TRS thread due to the previously mentioned clarity issues, but I can see how that was overlooked earlier because it looks like the notice saying it still has an open TRS thread was removed by accident when the clarified description was swapped in, so I fixed that.

Edit: Moved the contents of the original name's discussion page and it turns out the tool doesn't overwrite the contents of the destination page, so a TRS notice Synchronicity put on the new name's discussion page was still there. Didn't know that about the discussion page mover until now, but I'm glad the notice didn't get deleted and have to be re-posted.

Edited by GastonRabbit on Feb 9th 2023 at 9:23:21 AM

I got a rock for Halloween.
Malady (X-Troper)
#15580: Feb 9th 2023 at 8:00:15 PM

[up][up] - Thanks for the idea. Done: https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/query.php?parent_id=120262&type=bug

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wingedcatgirl mys. minty from the silly dimension from lurking (Holding A Herring) Relationship Status: Oh my word! I'm gay!
mys. minty from the silly dimension
#15581: Feb 9th 2023 at 8:46:31 PM

We'd actually reported that a while ago after it coincidentally came up in an ATT query... the author of which had already reported it earlier, though they hadn't put it in Query Bugs which was presumably our reasoning for reporting it again?

yeah i don't actually remember much of the thought process at this point

Suddenly I'm... still rotating Fallen London in my mind even though I've stopped actively playing it.
Cutegirl920fire Player 222 from the Squid Games (Five Long Years) Relationship Status: Paris holds the key to my heart
Player 222
#15582: Feb 9th 2023 at 9:00:03 PM

It always feel weird to be the first to edit a page in years. That just happened with The Great Gatsby (1974), where until I expanded a ZCE and rewrote an example there, was left untouched for three years.

CG for short
Malady (X-Troper)
#15583: Feb 9th 2023 at 9:01:45 PM

Well, however it happens, my latest info shows that it happened sometime between 2014 and 2015. Probably not useful, but historically interesting, since that's sorta the time where [Empty]/Page takes you to Page/Page?

http://web.archive.org/web/20150116093700/https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/FanFic/TransformersAlterVerse

Edited by Malady on Feb 9th 2023 at 9:03:14 AM

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WarJay77 It's NaNo, Bay-beeee! (8,356/50,000) from My Writing Cave (Troper Knight) Relationship Status: Armed with the Power of Love
It's NaNo, Bay-beeee! (8,356/50,000)
#15584: Feb 9th 2023 at 10:48:40 PM

Someone used the word "tropes" in an episode of You and it startled me. I always forget that it's just a word people use now, because in the past I had to explain the word to my parents.

Edited by WarJay77 on Feb 9th 2023 at 1:48:51 PM

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rmctagg09 The Wanderer from Brooklyn, NY (Before Recorded History) Relationship Status: I won't say I'm in love
The Wanderer
#15585: Feb 9th 2023 at 10:56:09 PM

I've noted an uptick in its use over the course of the 2010s, not sure if it's TVT's influence or just coincidence.

Hugging a Vanillite will give you frostbite.
GastonRabbit C'est la vie. (he/him) from Robinson, Illinois, USA (General of TV Troops) Relationship Status: I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me
C'est la vie. (he/him)
#15586: Feb 10th 2023 at 12:16:48 AM

I do admit that I wasn't familiar with the word until I discovered the site since I went the rest of my life up to that point without knowing about it, but what rmctagg said about the word's usage increasing in the '10s lines up with my own experience with seeing the word increasingly being used completely independently of this site.

Edited by GastonRabbit on Feb 10th 2023 at 2:18:17 PM

I got a rock for Halloween.
techno156 from Lost in the wrong part of the internet (Private) Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
#15587: Feb 10th 2023 at 2:09:04 AM

RE: https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=13646132210A95550100&page=624#comment-15577

I had a very different mental image going on when reading that, at least compared to what the trope is actually about.

I don't think there is an easy way to fix the glitched pages, though. Most of the site's editing tools (at least, the ones available to users) glitch something fierce if you try and shoehorn them to view something in an empty namespace. It would be like trying to edit a page with no name.

In either case, the site bounces you to Home Page, which then redirects you to the home page. (It's hardcoded, so the editor also does that's, and folderiser reports that if you can see the page content, it's a bug, and it should normally redirect to the home page)

The admins/engineers might have an easier time of it, since they can just change the sites in the database, and bypass having the use the site interface a time all if need be.

Edited by techno156 on Feb 10th 2023 at 9:09:52 PM

GastonRabbit C'est la vie. (he/him) from Robinson, Illinois, USA (General of TV Troops) Relationship Status: I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me
C'est la vie. (he/him)
#15588: Feb 10th 2023 at 2:12:43 AM

After I stopped a derail in the Absent People thread due to the "On-Topic" aspect of the thread making it an exception to Yack Fest being significantly more lenient with derails than the rest of the site, I can't help but wonder if that also puts it at odds with Yack Fest being significantly more lenient with derails and thus would be a better fit for OTC. Even though OTC has a reputation for hosting political discussions, it also has threads like the computer thread and the RIP thread, so I asked the other mods whether something should be done about the Absent People thread's status.

Edited by GastonRabbit on Feb 10th 2023 at 5:10:39 AM

I got a rock for Halloween.
CardboardBot from Saudi Arabia (Life not ruined yet) Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#15589: Feb 10th 2023 at 2:16:46 AM

Maybe we could make it kind of blend with Yack Fest's relaxed vibe and tack on a "Kinda" before "On-Topic".

Checking in on this account after leaving the site, MAN that is a cringy forum post history. Daaamn. Never again.
GastonRabbit C'est la vie. (he/him) from Robinson, Illinois, USA (General of TV Troops) Relationship Status: I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me
C'est la vie. (he/him)
#15590: Feb 10th 2023 at 2:20:22 AM

I decided to Take a Third Option by just removing the "On-Topic" part of the title and retracting all the thumps. Now everyone wins because it's no longer oddly strict for this part of the forums, and the "On-Topic" part of the title will never be able to bug me again.

Edit: Oh, and for the record, before anyone semi-jokingly comments on the fact that I changed a title again, I already acknowledged that myself in the mod post in the Absent People thread.

Edited by GastonRabbit on Feb 10th 2023 at 4:26:08 AM

I got a rock for Halloween.
Psychedelicate She/Her Since: May, 2016 Relationship Status: That's rough, buddy
She/Her
#15591: Feb 10th 2023 at 3:38:22 AM

I have to admit, I've always been kind of confused about why that specific thread was deemed an on-topic zone to begin with.

Irene (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Crazy Cat Lady
#15592: Feb 10th 2023 at 3:54:06 AM

Since the point was to laser-focus on people coming and going, and we had so many derails it was difficult to hold a conversation related to said topic. I doubt we would need that extra moniker by now anyway~

Shadow?
GastonRabbit C'est la vie. (he/him) from Robinson, Illinois, USA (General of TV Troops) Relationship Status: I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me
C'est la vie. (he/him)
#15593: Feb 10th 2023 at 3:54:35 AM

[up][up]Same here, hence my related post in the Odd TV Tropes confessions thread.

[up]That just raises the question of why it was on Yack Fest of all places when OTC is the part of the forums that takes a zero-tolerance approach to derails. A strictly on-topic thread on Yack Fest makes less sense than when the Made of Forum Win thread used to be on the FAQ part of the forums, since the FAQ subforum is for meta stuff about the site and that thread is at least about a type of meta discussion; the reason Made of Forum Win was moved to Yack Fest was because Yack Fest was already being used for other threads about funny things.

Edited by GastonRabbit on Feb 10th 2023 at 6:06:38 AM

I got a rock for Halloween.
Irene (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Crazy Cat Lady
#15594: Feb 10th 2023 at 4:20:41 AM

It started in Yack Fest and got the On-Topic moniker while in it. It was never moved to another forum. The idea was it was a more casual place to ask, but got constantly too far out of control at times.

OTC wouldn’t have fit its purpose, regardless of the moniker.

Shadow?
themayorofsimpleton Short-Term Projects Herald | he/him from the Island of Koridai (Captain) Relationship Status: I won't say I'm in love
Short-Term Projects Herald | he/him
#15595: Feb 10th 2023 at 4:22:37 AM

Woke up this morning, got notified that I'd been thumped, checked the post, there was no thump and the Absent people thread had had "on-topic" chopped off its name.

...What a thing to wake up to.

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Ultimatum Disasturbator from The Wiggle Room (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#15596: Feb 10th 2023 at 4:22:48 AM

The absent people topic was the biggest source of drama for years on this site as I recall

have a listen and have a link to my discord server
BlackFaithStar [Hiatus til March] from 🇲🇾 (UTC plus 8) (Less Newbie) Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
[Hiatus til March]
#15597: Feb 10th 2023 at 5:30:42 AM

I did not know you get notified when you receive a thump until now. Just shows that I haven't ever received one. Yet.

When you're alone I'm reaching out to let you know that you're far from strangers, like the savior
Psychedelicate She/Her Since: May, 2016 Relationship Status: That's rough, buddy
She/Her
#15598: Feb 10th 2023 at 6:01:59 AM

Yeah, you get an automated PM with a link to the thumped post.

Edited by Psychedelicate on Feb 11th 2023 at 1:02:07 AM

Archsage Professional Simp from My House Since: Apr, 2022 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
Professional Simp
#15599: Feb 10th 2023 at 6:17:37 AM

Not to brag or anything, but I probably could fill two pages with the number of thumps I've had.

Best advice I ever got? Keep repeating the joke till everyone is forced to laugh.
themayorofsimpleton Short-Term Projects Herald | he/him from the Island of Koridai (Captain) Relationship Status: I won't say I'm in love
Short-Term Projects Herald | he/him
#15600: Feb 10th 2023 at 6:19:22 AM

I get freaked out when I get thumps because enough of them can lead to a suspension. That, and nearly all/all of the thumps I've had have been Off-Topic thumps, which makes me even more nervous since there's a consistent issue there.

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