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One thing I've noticed is that for all how the page for They Might Be Giants claims them to be the unofficial official band of this wiki, there's relatively few people on this site who seem to ever reference them.

Edited by GastonRabbit on Oct 13th 2024 at 12:59:03 PM

PurpleEyedGuma Since: Apr, 2020
Willbyr Hi (Y2K) Relationship Status: With my statistically significant other
Hi
#15002: Jan 26th 2023 at 6:39:58 PM

As for the mods who haven't been mentioned yet, the only one I recall interacting with recently is Traveling Wilbury.

Heh...funny you should mention a classic rock band. I've been told I look like Gregg Allman.

Edited by Willbyr on Jan 26th 2023 at 8:45:06 AM

GastonRabbit C'est la vie. (he/him) from Robinson, Illinois, USA (General of TV Troops) Relationship Status: I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me
C'est la vie. (he/him)
#15003: Jan 26th 2023 at 6:46:51 PM

[up]I can't help but wonder if you're the first person to get the joke. My taste for Classic Rock is probably related to my parents being Baby Boomers who grew up with it before it was called classic rock.

Edited by GastonRabbit on Jan 26th 2023 at 8:47:34 AM

I got a rock for Halloween.
Tabs Since: Jan, 2001
#15004: Jan 26th 2023 at 8:08:38 PM

Millennials.note 

I liked when Critical Research Failure went away. I hate when people use tropes to armchair historian/psychologist/expert-school you.

As for Surprisingly Realistic Outcome, I guess in retrospect, I'd still vote not to scrap it in the crowner and attempt to salvage it and see how it goes, and now the salvage-and-monitor period is ongoing, and it seems misuse pops up way faster than it can be corrected, and I'm not sure it's worth the effort. (Speaking as someone who participates in the cleanup thread kind of irregularly.) It could be something, but it's too easy to misuse.

KaabiiFan13 Since: Apr, 2022
#15005: Jan 26th 2023 at 8:19:55 PM

[up] Now that you mentioned it, in retrospect, Critical Research Failure works far better as an index than a trope.

Also, apparently there are talks about cutting the Analysis.Humans Are Cthulhu page. While I understand why - at this point it's more of a silly thought experiment sandbox rather than actual analysis - I really am going to miss it. It was fun reading through all of those bulleted lists talking up the human species and how "incomprehensible" we are to other animals.

Edited by KaabiiFan13 on Jan 26th 2023 at 8:20:46 AM

Demetrios Lucky Seven from Des Plaines, Illinois (unfortunately) Since: Oct, 2009 Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
Lucky Seven
#15006: Jan 26th 2023 at 8:25:12 PM

I miss the original format for Grumpy Bear. I still remember it had a picture of a grouchy-looking blue Care Bear with this caption underneath it: "Not even being the Trope Namer was enough to lift his spirits."

Come on! Let's bless them all until we get fershnickered!
Tabs Since: Jan, 2001
GastonRabbit C'est la vie. (he/him) from Robinson, Illinois, USA (General of TV Troops) Relationship Status: I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me
C'est la vie. (he/him)
#15009: Jan 26th 2023 at 9:08:21 PM

Honestly, yeah, I think I'm more glad to see Critical Research Failure go than I was to see Anvil of the Story go. Anvil of the Story didn't have many wicks, so it was just pointless, while Critical Research Failure was just a mess of nitpicking.

And there's nothing wrong with saying "Millennials", but it's suspension-worthy if you're running a plugin that changes it to "snake people".

Edited by GastonRabbit on Jan 26th 2023 at 11:09:55 AM

I got a rock for Halloween.
Malady (X-Troper)
#15010: Jan 26th 2023 at 9:16:31 PM

Serpentines are so millennial.

I wonder what would be a good replacement plugin. IncrediblyLamePun is doing better than I thought. It's sub-9000 now! Meme unintended.

Edited by Malady on Jan 26th 2023 at 9:20:06 AM

Disambig Needed: Help with those issues! tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=13324299140A37493800&page=24#comment-576
GastonRabbit C'est la vie. (he/him) from Robinson, Illinois, USA (General of TV Troops) Relationship Status: I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me
C'est la vie. (he/him)
#15011: Jan 26th 2023 at 9:18:08 PM

Willbyr isn't, though (even if I am, but I'm not a snake person despite what those plugins say). He's Gen X, so what Tabs said isn't completely accurate if it was referring to him as well.

Edited by GastonRabbit on Jan 26th 2023 at 11:20:42 AM

I got a rock for Halloween.
nrjxll Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Not war
#15012: Jan 26th 2023 at 9:41:57 PM

Disregarding really old stuff like victory in the Nakama drama... I think the TRS thread I was happiest to see happen was the one that cut Parvum Opus, which for those who didn't recall was a complaining counterpart to Magnum Opus. It was a really blatant failure of TLP that it even got launched in the first place, and so it was satisfying just how short-lived it was.

GastonRabbit C'est la vie. (he/him) from Robinson, Illinois, USA (General of TV Troops) Relationship Status: I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me
C'est la vie. (he/him)
#15013: Jan 26th 2023 at 9:59:35 PM

[up]I don't think it even went through TLP, so I don't think TLP is to blame in that case (since Main/ wasn't locked down until 2017).

Edit: Yeah, the TRS thread's opening post says it was put in Main/ unilaterally, and the discussion page doesn't have a link to a TLP draft.

Edited by GastonRabbit on Jan 26th 2023 at 12:01:33 PM

I got a rock for Halloween.
Noaqiyeum we must dissent (it/they) from across the gulf of space (Time Abyss) Relationship Status: Arm chopping is not a love language!
NitroIndigo ♀ | Small ripples lead to big waves from West Midlands region, England Since: Jun, 2021 Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
♀ | Small ripples lead to big waves
#15015: Jan 26th 2023 at 10:53:18 PM

I didn't even know Wildfire Franchise had a TRS thread. I thought it was cut via a decision in the TLP cleanup. RIP.

Anyway, the first TRS effort I actively contributed to was Seldom Seen Species. My hobby for a week was removing wicks to it, and along the way I found plenty of works to add to Works Needing Tropes.

Ultimatum Disasturbator from The Wiggle Room (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#15016: Jan 27th 2023 at 4:00:52 AM

Grumpy Bear being index rather then a trope now is disappointing

Like what they did to Nice Hat

have a listen and have a link to my discord server
MacronNotes (she/her) (Captain) Relationship Status: Less than three
(she/her)
#15017: Jan 27th 2023 at 4:27:45 AM

A disambig isn't exactly an index. Grumpy Bear was misused for the tropes in the disambig and as a general "this character is always grumpy" when the trope really was "This character's grumpiness contrasts with the idealistic setting of the work". I think a new trope is being made for the latter definition in the TLP.

Macron's notes
FernandoLemon Since: Aug, 2015
#15018: Jan 27th 2023 at 5:12:42 AM

Oh, and how could I forget Ear Worm now being IUEO? That's the trope that brought me to TRS (which then stemmed to the rest of the forums), and I'm glad about the change, that thing was a ZCE magnet.

themayorofsimpleton Short-Term Projects Herald | he/him from the Island of Koridai (Captain) Relationship Status: I won't say I'm in love
Short-Term Projects Herald | he/him
#15019: Jan 27th 2023 at 5:15:32 AM

[up] I almost mentioned that trope myself. I remember a lot of the usage being the Ear Worm in question being phonetically spelled out Ear Worms—which was just annoying IMO.

Hey Its That Guy and Hey Its That Voice are not tropes I miss particularly dearly either. I remember them cluttering Trivia pages like crazy—when they were cut, they had turned into essentially lists of which roles (voice) actors played, which even at the time (I didn't have an account yet) I questioned the need for.

Edited by themayorofsimpleton on Jan 27th 2023 at 8:17:47 AM

Works That Require Cleanup of Complaining | Troper Wall
GastonRabbit C'est la vie. (he/him) from Robinson, Illinois, USA (General of TV Troops) Relationship Status: I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me
C'est la vie. (he/him)
#15020: Jan 27th 2023 at 5:47:34 AM

[up]Relationship Voice Actor, which was disambiguated this week, was similar to the Hey It's That [noun] things, and there are already Trivia pages being cutlisted for listing nothing else (which previously happened with Names The Same).

Edited by GastonRabbit on Jan 27th 2023 at 7:48:18 AM

I got a rock for Halloween.
NitroIndigo ♀ | Small ripples lead to big waves from West Midlands region, England Since: Jun, 2021 Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
♀ | Small ripples lead to big waves
#15021: Jan 27th 2023 at 7:10:51 AM

[up][up]I remember the Hey, It's That Voice! entry being basically the only thing on Spyro: Enter the Dragonfly's pages that wasn't complaining.

Libraryseraph uu~ from Canada (Handed A Sword) Relationship Status: Raising My Lily Rank With You
uu~
#15022: Jan 27th 2023 at 7:13:53 AM

For TRS decisions, I'm pretty glad about Five-Man Band (not actually a trope but everyone was desperate to shoehorn it into everything, with accompanying ZCEs) and The Chick (deeply associated with FMB's problems with the additional shitty implications of it being shoved onto just about every female character)

HAPPY HALLOWEEN FOR MARIA
Amonimus the "Retromancer" from <<|Wiki Talk|>> (Sergeant) Relationship Status: In another castle
the "Retromancer"
#15023: Jan 27th 2023 at 7:41:49 AM

YMMV.Glass Onion seem to have been quite frequent in ATT

TroperWall / WikiMagic Cleanup
GastonRabbit C'est la vie. (he/him) from Robinson, Illinois, USA (General of TV Troops) Relationship Status: I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me
C'est la vie. (he/him)
#15024: Jan 27th 2023 at 7:54:36 AM

I've never seen that movie, so I'm only familiar with the song it's named after ("Glass Onion" by The Beatles, AKA the Trope Namer for The Walrus Was Paul).

Edited by GastonRabbit on Jan 27th 2023 at 9:56:04 AM

I got a rock for Halloween.
Archsage Professional Simp from My House Since: Apr, 2022 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
Professional Simp
#15025: Jan 27th 2023 at 7:55:40 AM

Something I've noticed is that on Values Dissonance, people try and justify why it was ok back then instead of explaining why its wrong.

Best advice I ever got? Keep repeating the joke till everyone is forced to laugh.

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