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One thing I've noticed is that for all how the page for They Might Be Giants claims them to be the unofficial official band of this wiki, there's relatively few people on this site who seem to ever reference them.

Edited by GastonRabbit on Oct 13th 2024 at 12:59:03 PM

BackSet1 I <3 Zinnia from I'm sure you'd love to know that, wouldn't you? (Experienced, Not Yet Jaded) Relationship Status: Yes, I'm alone, but I'm alone and free
I <3 Zinnia
#14951: Jan 26th 2023 at 10:26:51 AM

It's surreal to go watch old OSP videos on Shakespeare and seeing screenshots of old TV Tropes pages.

Edited by BackSet1 on Jan 26th 2023 at 1:27:06 PM

Read Pokemon Ultimate Emerald
NitroIndigo ♀ | Small ripples lead to big waves from West Midlands region, England Since: Jun, 2021 Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
♀ | Small ripples lead to big waves
#14952: Jan 26th 2023 at 10:29:36 AM

I just realised that there's only one troper who I can recognise from their edits alone: Piterpicher, who exclusively writes about obscure idle games.

Piterpicher Veteran Editor IV from Poland, for real (Series 2) Relationship Status: Armed with the Power of Love
Veteran Editor IV
#14953: Jan 26th 2023 at 11:18:39 AM

Heh... grin But exclusively idle games is way off. I also take part in writing about games in other genres and more random stuff.

Here's a thing from me: If you can fill up a 1440p monitor with examples, your trope is practically guaranteed to hit Standing status (from Wick) by launch, even the four-year one in some cases. That happened with Reset Milestones. Ask me if you don't have a 1440p and want to know.

Edited by Piterpicher on Jan 26th 2023 at 8:46:07 PM

Currently mostly inactive. An incremental game I tested: https://galaxy.click/play/176 (Gods of Incremental)
GastonRabbit C'est la vie. (he/him) from Robinson, Illinois, USA (General of TV Troops) Relationship Status: I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me
C'est la vie. (he/him)
#14954: Jan 26th 2023 at 3:26:40 PM

I just realised that there's only one troper who I can recognise from their edits alone: Piterpicher, who exclusively writes about obscure idle games.

Surely you can recognize me from my forum posts, considering how often I've complained about my health, or just self-deprecated in some other way. That, and some of my forum posts are the same color as Kirby.

As for my edits, it's mostly TRS stuff these days, but sometimes I'll edit pages for games I'm currently playing (which I did recently by doing some cleanup work on the subpages for Fire Emblem Engage).

Edited by GastonRabbit on Jan 26th 2023 at 5:30:11 AM

I got a rock for Halloween.
Amonimus the "Retromancer" from <<|Wiki Talk|>> (Sergeant) Relationship Status: In another castle
the "Retromancer"
#14955: Jan 26th 2023 at 3:30:30 PM

All times I recognize a person edits is because they're doing a TRS cleanup. I generally don't see people I know on the pages I follow.

TroperWall / WikiMagic Cleanup
FernandoLemon Since: Aug, 2015
#14956: Jan 26th 2023 at 3:31:03 PM

I'd like to move most of the pages on Series/ and Film/ to a new namespace called WesternLiveAction/ just to be consistent with WesternAnimation/. This will be a pain in the ass to work on and will benefit no-one. Please Gaston?

I'm joking, but I'm still wondering when and why we decided that animated films and shows should go on the same namespace.

Amonimus the "Retromancer" from <<|Wiki Talk|>> (Sergeant) Relationship Status: In another castle
the "Retromancer"
#14957: Jan 26th 2023 at 3:33:24 PM

[up] I'd rather do something with Western Animation/, Animation/ or Animated Film/, which was discussed here and now I remember stopped because the suggestion failed.

Edited by Amonimus on Jan 26th 2023 at 2:36:12 PM

TroperWall / WikiMagic Cleanup
FernandoLemon Since: Aug, 2015
#14958: Jan 26th 2023 at 3:38:02 PM

I forgot about that. It's rare for a crowner to fail like that.

Speaking of edit patterns, I've null edited a bunch of Laconic pages because the small markup suddenly stopped working; I've no idea why. Luckily, a null edit is all it takes to update the page.

GastonRabbit C'est la vie. (he/him) from Robinson, Illinois, USA (General of TV Troops) Relationship Status: I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me
C'est la vie. (he/him)
#14959: Jan 26th 2023 at 3:38:17 PM

I'd like to move most of the pages on Series/ and Film/ to a new namespace called WesternLiveAction/ just to be consistent with WesternAnimation/. This will be a pain in the ass to work on and will benefit no-one. Please Gaston?

Why stop there? Why not move every single work page on the site to Work/? (OK, I stole that joke from someone else; I think Chloe Jessica was the one who came up with it several months ago. But I'm bringing it back up because it's relevant again now that we're discussing overhauling namespaces.)

Edited by GastonRabbit on Jan 26th 2023 at 5:38:50 AM

I got a rock for Halloween.
FernandoLemon Since: Aug, 2015
#14960: Jan 26th 2023 at 3:40:03 PM

[up] Are we overhauling? Where?

Also, Main/ pages should be split between Index/, Trope/, Disambiguation/ in that jokey scenario.

Edited by FernandoLemon on Jan 26th 2023 at 8:40:18 AM

Amonimus the "Retromancer" from <<|Wiki Talk|>> (Sergeant) Relationship Status: In another castle
the "Retromancer"
#14961: Jan 26th 2023 at 3:40:13 PM

"Why not move every single work page on the site to Work/?"

Which is what I hope 2.0 would be about.

TroperWall / WikiMagic Cleanup
MacronNotes (she/her) (Captain) Relationship Status: Less than three
(she/her)
#14962: Jan 26th 2023 at 3:41:47 PM

The vision for 2.0 is for namespaces to be converted into tags. So a work can be tagged as both Anime and Film.

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GastonRabbit C'est la vie. (he/him) from Robinson, Illinois, USA (General of TV Troops) Relationship Status: I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me
C'est la vie. (he/him)
#14963: Jan 26th 2023 at 3:41:52 PM

[up][up][up]I don't know if we're actually overhauling (I barely even follow Wiki Talk). I was responding to your joke with another joke (which wasn't even my joke).

Edited by GastonRabbit on Jan 26th 2023 at 5:44:14 AM

I got a rock for Halloween.
FernandoLemon Since: Aug, 2015
#14964: Jan 26th 2023 at 3:43:58 PM

[up][up] So what Wikipedia does, basically.

[up] Shame. I knew the first part of your post was a joke, but I took that last part at face value.

Edited by FernandoLemon on Jan 26th 2023 at 8:45:09 AM

Amonimus the "Retromancer" from <<|Wiki Talk|>> (Sergeant) Relationship Status: In another castle
the "Retromancer"
#14965: Jan 26th 2023 at 3:49:00 PM

Or what we do with pagetypes, if we had a pagetype for every namespace.

TroperWall / WikiMagic Cleanup
MacronNotes (she/her) (Captain) Relationship Status: Less than three
(she/her)
#14966: Jan 26th 2023 at 3:50:03 PM

Yeah basically. If Tvtropes 2.0 ever happens, we won't have any namespace issues again.

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Ultimatum Disasturbator from The Wiggle Room (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#14967: Jan 26th 2023 at 3:50:51 PM

I've given up hoping for Tvtropes 2.0

best to make with what we've got at this point

have a listen and have a link to my discord server
Amonimus the "Retromancer" from <<|Wiki Talk|>> (Sergeant) Relationship Status: In another castle
the "Retromancer"
#14968: Jan 26th 2023 at 3:58:18 PM

This reminds me I still need to finish the sandbox database in PHP to see how "automated crosswicking" would even work (effectively making a separate list for examples and telling which two pages to connect to). The basic article layout has so many elements (name, quote, image, description, indexes, etc) it quickly stopped being fun trying to recreate just that much in spare time.

TroperWall / WikiMagic Cleanup
BackSet1 I <3 Zinnia from I'm sure you'd love to know that, wouldn't you? (Experienced, Not Yet Jaded) Relationship Status: Yes, I'm alone, but I'm alone and free
I <3 Zinnia
#14969: Jan 26th 2023 at 4:05:59 PM

I think we should put all animated films under film just as a fuck you to everyone who thinks they aren't.

Read Pokemon Ultimate Emerald
Amonimus the "Retromancer" from <<|Wiki Talk|>> (Sergeant) Relationship Status: In another castle
the "Retromancer"
#14970: Jan 26th 2023 at 4:07:03 PM

Back to Observations,

What Page Types Mean: "if the Recap page for an individual episode of a series has its own reviews, it will need this page type"

That's a pretty obscure rule that I've got wrong.

TroperWall / WikiMagic Cleanup
GastonRabbit C'est la vie. (he/him) from Robinson, Illinois, USA (General of TV Troops) Relationship Status: I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me
C'est la vie. (he/him)
#14971: Jan 26th 2023 at 4:19:16 PM

There have been times when TRS converted a page into a disambiguation page without changing the page type accordingly. Sometimes I was the one responsible for that mistake.

Edited by GastonRabbit on Jan 26th 2023 at 6:19:51 AM

I got a rock for Halloween.
MacronNotes (she/her) (Captain) Relationship Status: Less than three
(she/her)
#14972: Jan 26th 2023 at 4:23:31 PM

Changing the page type isn't exactly intuitive so I often forget about it and you can't see it on mobile view.

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GastonRabbit C'est la vie. (he/him) from Robinson, Illinois, USA (General of TV Troops) Relationship Status: I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me
C'est la vie. (he/him)
#14973: Jan 26th 2023 at 4:25:35 PM

The fact that it isn't intuitive is why the admins should make a new page type simply called "page", and we can change every page to that.

Edited by GastonRabbit on Jan 26th 2023 at 6:25:47 AM

I got a rock for Halloween.
Cutegirl920fire Player 222 from the Squid Games (Five Long Years) Relationship Status: Paris holds the key to my heart
Player 222
#14974: Jan 26th 2023 at 4:25:39 PM

I wanna add an example but:

A. I haven't finished the work yet and I wanna avoid spoilers

B. I posted it on the Get Help with English thread just in case and I'm waiting for someone to say if it has some grammar errors or not.

CG for short
MacronNotes (she/her) (Captain) Relationship Status: Less than three
(she/her)
#14975: Jan 26th 2023 at 4:33:27 PM

I still don't know what an actual Surprisingly Realistic Outcome example looks like. That's one trope I'll never touch.

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