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One thing I've noticed is that for all how the page for They Might Be Giants claims them to be the unofficial official band of this wiki, there's relatively few people on this site who seem to ever reference them.

Edited by GastonRabbit on Oct 13th 2024 at 12:59:03 PM

HoloMew151 Space Gal from From Deep, Deep Space Since: Jun, 2021 Relationship Status: Tweaking my holographic boyfriend
Space Gal
#10651: Sep 15th 2022 at 4:06:25 AM

[up] [up] Some of the Video Overdosed stuff can be surprising - still can’t believe that there is so many videos of Central Park out there.

GastonRabbit C'est la vie. (he/him) from Robinson, Illinois, USA (General of TV Troops) Relationship Status: I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me
C'est la vie. (he/him)
#10652: Sep 15th 2022 at 5:33:44 AM

I just added banners to some pages that are under discussion on TRS, and I noticed that some threads' numbers have decimal points in them. I don't know when that started happening or why (I was kind of wondering if the change to the Content Policy violations forum and/or the changes to Image Pickin had side effects related to thread numbers), but when I saw the decimal point, I initially wondered if I made a mistake when copying and pasting the URL.

I got a rock for Halloween.
themayorofsimpleton Short-Term Projects Herald | he/him from the Island of Koridai (Captain) Relationship Status: I won't say I'm in love
Short-Term Projects Herald | he/him
#10653: Sep 15th 2022 at 5:41:20 AM

[up] I noticed that myself recently when I was linking to a thread in a forum post (I think). Interesting—maybe we ran out of numbers?

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SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#10654: Sep 15th 2022 at 6:26:54 AM

The decimal points are a long-standing feature of the forum software, they allow (or allowed) you to change the pagination of a thread.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
Amonimus the "Retromancer" from <<|Wiki Talk|>> (Sergeant) Relationship Status: In another castle
the "Retromancer"
#10655: Sep 15th 2022 at 6:39:14 AM

The evolution of thread ID is very bizarre.

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good-morning Lord Something, Forgetter of Cool Titles from Brazil Since: Nov, 2021
Lord Something, Forgetter of Cool Titles
#10656: Sep 15th 2022 at 3:34:41 PM

I know we make fun of many of the site's pedantic and complaining pages, but I think pages like the new Prop show that the site can be a pretty good door for literary analysis, history of cinema and fiction study. I actually learned quite a few things about the development and structure of fiction in some more serious pages, and the casual writing helps to broad the public.

oh hey how are you doing?
MsCC22 Since: Aug, 2022
#10657: Sep 15th 2022 at 3:56:28 PM

When it comes to how the complaining is made a mockery of, at least TV Tropes is making an effort to purge it. This website isn't by all means perfect, but it has made vast improvements such as getting rid of all the natter.

WarJay77 It's NaNo, Bay-beeee! (8,356/50,000) from My Writing Cave (Troper Knight) Relationship Status: Armed with the Power of Love
It's NaNo, Bay-beeee! (8,356/50,000)
#10658: Sep 15th 2022 at 4:17:50 PM

As mentioned before, a lot of the recurring criticisms about the site stem from how things were in the dark ages / our wild west period / the early days / whatever you want to call it. Pretty much every major issue is something we're either in the process of stomping out, have already successfully stomped out, or are bad-faith takes that don't matter.

Working on: Author Appeal | Sandbox | Troper Wall
ChloeJessica Since: Jun, 2020 Relationship Status: Awaiting my mail-order bride
#10659: Sep 15th 2022 at 4:19:30 PM

Measuring the Marigolds is the only criticism i think might really have merit, and even that is down to people using the site in ways it's not intended for rather than the site itself.

WarJay77 It's NaNo, Bay-beeee! (8,356/50,000) from My Writing Cave (Troper Knight) Relationship Status: Armed with the Power of Love
It's NaNo, Bay-beeee! (8,356/50,000)
#10660: Sep 15th 2022 at 4:22:51 PM

True, that's part of the concept behind Tv Tropes Will Ruin Your Life so it's definitely a negative side-effect but does have more to do with how people react to learning about these patterns. Personally I haven't found my enjoyment of anything hampered at all, if anything I appreciate things I like even more because I can see all the fun plot threads and patterns and I enjoy that sort of thing. Sure, it shows me just how "same-y" everything might be but I choose to focus on the unique ways each work uses these tropes, because that's what I find most interesting (and is also why the ZCE rule has never felt redundant or strict to me).

Edited by WarJay77 on Sep 15th 2022 at 7:24:12 AM

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Noaqiyeum we must dissent (it/they) from across the gulf of space (Time Abyss) Relationship Status: Arm chopping is not a love language!
we must dissent (it/they)
#10661: Sep 15th 2022 at 4:33:44 PM

My idealised vision of this website is essentially "fandom geekery, laced with an addictive free sample of Intro to Media Literacy and Semiotics". :P

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#10662: Sep 15th 2022 at 5:36:07 PM

[up] Not media Wikipedia?tongue

Edited by techno156 on Sep 15th 2022 at 10:36:26 PM

badtothebaritone (Life not ruined yet) Relationship Status: Snooping as usual
#10663: Sep 15th 2022 at 5:47:51 PM

[up] Not Wikipedia. That has notability requirements. We don't have those here.

GastonRabbit C'est la vie. (he/him) from Robinson, Illinois, USA (General of TV Troops) Relationship Status: I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me
C'est la vie. (he/him)
#10664: Sep 15th 2022 at 6:00:54 PM

I know we make fun of many of the site's pedantic and complaining pages, but I think pages like the new Prop show that the site can be a pretty good door for literary analysis, history of cinema and fiction study. I actually learned quite a few things about the development and structure of fiction in some more serious pages, and the casual writing helps to broad the public.

...We seriously didn't have a page for Prop until this year? It's such a basic and well-established term that the 2022 launch date on a site that was started in 2004 is baffling.

Edited by GastonRabbit on Sep 15th 2022 at 8:01:28 AM

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themayorofsimpleton Short-Term Projects Herald | he/him from the Island of Koridai (Captain) Relationship Status: I won't say I'm in love
Short-Term Projects Herald | he/him
#10665: Sep 15th 2022 at 6:01:25 PM

[up] That's what I said on the draft.

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WarJay77 It's NaNo, Bay-beeee! (8,356/50,000) from My Writing Cave (Troper Knight) Relationship Status: Armed with the Power of Love
It's NaNo, Bay-beeee! (8,356/50,000)
#10666: Sep 15th 2022 at 6:02:03 PM

It's another one of those "so obvious nobody made it" pages.

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Walkinshadows Since: Jun, 2012
#10667: Sep 15th 2022 at 6:24:16 PM

We didn’t have one for riddle either.

ShinyCottonCandy Everyone's friend Malamar from Lumiose City (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Everyone's friend Malamar
#10668: Sep 15th 2022 at 6:28:01 PM

I suppose when a concept is so broad, it may come across as hard to encapsulate in trope form.

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WarJay77 It's NaNo, Bay-beeee! (8,356/50,000) from My Writing Cave (Troper Knight) Relationship Status: Armed with the Power of Love
It's NaNo, Bay-beeee! (8,356/50,000)
#10669: Sep 15th 2022 at 6:30:14 PM

Admittedly that's been a problem for me. I have some ideas that I know for a fact are patterns and could be tropeworthy, the issue is that actually describing what's in my head and why it's tropeworthy is much more difficult. Several drafts of mine have gone Up For Grabs simply because I couldn't do the concepts justice or explain them well. I've learned I work best with more simplistic concepts.

So it wouldn't surprise me if other people have a similar problem.

Edited by WarJay77 on Sep 15th 2022 at 9:31:12 AM

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ChloeJessica Since: Jun, 2020 Relationship Status: Awaiting my mail-order bride
#10670: Sep 15th 2022 at 7:13:42 PM

Gaston wrote on my troper wall at the end of August and i only just now noticed

and a couple more in the past few days

i should probably put it on my pagewatch list

WarJay77 It's NaNo, Bay-beeee! (8,356/50,000) from My Writing Cave (Troper Knight) Relationship Status: Armed with the Power of Love
It's NaNo, Bay-beeee! (8,356/50,000)
#10671: Sep 15th 2022 at 7:14:44 PM

Gaston vandalized me as well, lmao.

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themayorofsimpleton Short-Term Projects Herald | he/him from the Island of Koridai (Captain) Relationship Status: I won't say I'm in love
Cutegirl920fire Player 222 from the Squid Games (Five Long Years) Relationship Status: Paris holds the key to my heart
Player 222
#10673: Sep 15th 2022 at 7:24:15 PM

I checked my Troper Wall to see if she also vandalized it but... it hasn't been edited in four months.

CG for short
ChloeJessica Since: Jun, 2020 Relationship Status: Awaiting my mail-order bride
#10674: Sep 15th 2022 at 7:24:56 PM

Mayor's wall has 20 inbounds, mine has 21, and Jay's has 44. who the hell is linking to our troper walls??

Cutegirl920fire Player 222 from the Squid Games (Five Long Years) Relationship Status: Paris holds the key to my heart
Player 222
#10675: Sep 15th 2022 at 7:25:49 PM

[up] I mean considering how site code usually is, I won't be surprised if it turns out to be some sort of funky glitch.

CG for short

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