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One thing I've noticed is that for all how the page for They Might Be Giants claims them to be the unofficial official band of this wiki, there's relatively few people on this site who seem to ever reference them.

Edited by GastonRabbit on Oct 13th 2024 at 12:59:03 PM

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#8926: Aug 12th 2022 at 3:24:36 PM

We have, like, 50 gajillion threads for every political stance under the sun and even some that aren't.

Edited by BackSet1 on Aug 12th 2022 at 6:24:49 AM

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#8927: Aug 12th 2022 at 3:29:26 PM

I always thought OTC was for discussing politics.

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#8928: Aug 12th 2022 at 3:33:23 PM

There's other topics too. I assume. I don't use it.

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#8929: Aug 12th 2022 at 3:39:27 PM

OTC is for politics and anything people want to have an on topic/serious conversation on. There's several threads for general topics. Sometimes, OTC and Yack Fest would have two threads with the same topic but different atmospheres as being off-topic isn't a big deal on YF.

Edited by MacronNotes on Aug 12th 2022 at 6:40:43 AM

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#8930: Aug 12th 2022 at 3:40:27 PM

Fair, I already knew what the OTC's deal is beforehand. Guess I was just weirded out from seeing the Sexism thread pop up every now and then today.

Edited by Cutegirl920fire on Aug 12th 2022 at 3:40:42 AM

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#8931: Aug 12th 2022 at 3:50:02 PM

The only thread I used to frequent on OTC is the Space Thread because I was looking forward to discussing planetary science over there which is my experienced field, but I stopped after realizing just how boring it is. Most of the topics are about rocket stuff, physics news, and whatever Elon Musk is cooking in his backyard, none of which interested me, and very rarely do I get to discuss anything planet-related. A bummer, really, but I guess I'm the minority in the grand scheme of things when it comes to space.

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#8932: Aug 12th 2022 at 3:53:10 PM

[up] There should be a separate thread for Musk tbh. Like when I think of space, I think of planets and stars, not some stupid billionaire.

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#8933: Aug 12th 2022 at 3:54:29 PM

And, of course, there's also Covens, which has an overlap.

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#8934: Aug 12th 2022 at 3:55:11 PM

Alternatively you could try and spin off an Astronomy thread to keep the Musk stuff to the general space thread. (Hell, if you make in YF I'd participate too, Astronomy is awesome)

Edited by WarJay77 on Aug 12th 2022 at 6:56:03 AM

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#8935: Aug 12th 2022 at 4:21:10 PM

[up][up] I accidentally started a dupe Covens thread once for cat lovers without realizing one already existed.

Edited by themayorofsimpleton on Aug 12th 2022 at 7:21:16 AM

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#8936: Aug 12th 2022 at 6:08:55 PM

That's why I said it feels like a conflict between "Traditional fans" and "Tumblr fans", since it's something indicative of a modern fandom thing used primarily by kids and teens.

It goes back to the Live Journal days. I distinctly recall !tags being used all the time for kink meme requests in the 00's. And I admit to using them here as well. Feel free to toss fruit at me while chanting "Shame!" I deserve it.

Edited by Parable on Aug 12th 2022 at 6:09:43 AM

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#8937: Aug 12th 2022 at 6:13:11 PM

Yeah, I haven't wanted to discuss the characterization tags thing because I have no opinion either way, but to the above specifically I do think even in its early years there was a rather distinct gap between the sort of fans who made TV Tropes and what I think of as Fan Culture with a capital F.

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#8938: Aug 12th 2022 at 6:15:57 PM

im not trying to shame anybody's fan culture. i am staunchly anti-gatekeeping in these matters. my dislike is largely based on the way my mental reading voice "pronounces" them, which is no one's fault.

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#8939: Aug 12th 2022 at 6:32:43 PM

Yeah, I get it. I just think the wiki's explanation for why they're banned is, at best, comically hypocritical and that's all :P

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#8940: Aug 12th 2022 at 6:38:42 PM

[up][up] Why can't you read them differently in your head? Overall this is something you shouldn't get pissed over, like say bigotry, which is something that's indeed worth getting pissed over.

Edited by Cutegirl920fire on Aug 12th 2022 at 6:51:51 AM

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#8941: Aug 12th 2022 at 6:41:39 PM

Might want to rephrase that, I know what you mean but it sounds like you're saying bigotry is an example of something to "not" get pissed over.

Also tbh it's real hard to change your mental perception of something after it's already ingrained. It's not as simple of 'read it differently' in most cases.

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#8942: Aug 12th 2022 at 6:53:51 PM

[up] Shit, I'm sorry, just proves how dumb I am.

Also, as long you make it a habit, I think it's still possible to change how you read it. It works for me and my family at least.

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#8943: Aug 12th 2022 at 7:23:51 PM

What do you do when a query on Ask the Tropers don't get responses? I always feel bad in bumping more than once, because it sounds like I'm desperate or something, but I also get afraid of the query being forgotten after it passes to the second page.

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#8944: Aug 12th 2022 at 7:35:24 PM

If it's the dinosaur one, I guess you can bump it after a couple of days, but as said many times in the past most tropers aren't interested in dinosaur talk and aren't knowledgeable in that field so getting answer might not be easy, It sucks but sometimes you just no response on forums in general.

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#8945: Aug 12th 2022 at 7:50:50 PM

[up][up][up] I Don't see why they should have to change the way they read it.

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#8946: Aug 12th 2022 at 8:10:09 PM

[up] Well, I do try to change the way I read shub-Niggurath in my head as I don't wanna end up saying a slur, y'know. So if you're pissed off over something because of how you read it in your mind, then well, change it.

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#8947: Aug 12th 2022 at 8:18:04 PM

[up]For a name like that, I just pronounce it as "shub-Ny-jer-ath" to avoid the N-word parallels as much as possible. Though admittedly it isn't much of an improvement.

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#8948: Aug 12th 2022 at 8:19:30 PM

That might be a doomed effort, since the resemblance to a slur was quite intentional on Lovecraft's part.

Suddenly I'm... still rotating Fallen London in my mind even though I've stopped actively playing it.
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#8949: Aug 12th 2022 at 8:20:03 PM

I mean... it's the Cthulu Mythos, do you really think that it's not intended to be read with the slur knowing Lovecraft? If changing it in your head makes you more comfortable, fine, but it's a different case than just being stumped by a Punctuation Shaker.

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#8950: Aug 12th 2022 at 8:21:29 PM

In that case, I'll just call it "shub-Rath" instead. Removes the slur entirely.


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