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One thing I've noticed is that for all how the page for They Might Be Giants claims them to be the unofficial official band of this wiki, there's relatively few people on this site who seem to ever reference them.

Edited by GastonRabbit on Oct 13th 2024 at 12:59:03 PM

Excessive-Menace Time to SLEEP from the Velvet Cage (Fifth Year at Tropey's) Relationship Status: Dancing with myself
Time to SLEEP
#6251: May 13th 2022 at 2:26:51 PM

For the longest time, Yūko Gotō's image used to be from her animated appearance in the Lucky Star anime. I changed it recently through IP but I do wonder why someone chose that pic over anything showing what she looks like IRL.

SING TO ME, LEND ME THE SONG OF BLASPHEMY
PhantomDusclops92 Nitpicky Nitwit from Italy Since: Oct, 2010 Relationship Status: Faithful to 2D
Nitpicky Nitwit
#6252: May 13th 2022 at 2:29:12 PM

[up] Minoru Shiraishi also had that for a long time. And I believe Daisuke Ono too for a while.

Reymma RJ Savoy from Edinburgh Since: Feb, 2015 Relationship Status: Wanna dance with somebody
RJ Savoy
#6253: May 13th 2022 at 2:29:55 PM

It's better than the early days where there seems to have been a lot of botting with crowners (likely why the Nakama rename one was defeated three to one, when a later one won seven to one).

I've just noticed two things about our software. When you edit your forum posts, it indicates the date of the latest edit, but it is twelve hours earlier than the time used for post themselves, giving the odd impression that someone changed their post before they actually posted.

The second is that when you enter a troper's name in the forum post search, it gives you a page of posts with a generic URL; if you go into a post and go back, you have to refresh or resubmit the name. But if you go into any other page of their posting history, even if you go to the first page (by clicking it, not going back), it remains a it becomes a URL with their name in it that is preserved when go back to it.

The quirks of this website are strange.

Stories don't tell us monsters exist; we knew that already. They show us that monsters can be trademarked and milked for years.
Amonimus the "Retromancer" from <<|Wiki Talk|>> (Sergeant) Relationship Status: In another castle
the "Retromancer"
#6254: May 13th 2022 at 2:54:03 PM

Please don't list this on a work's page as a trope.
This is based on opinion. Please don't list it on a work's trope example list.
Please don't list this on a work's page as a trope. Examples can go on the work's YMMV tab.

Why do we have three separate YMMV headers and what even sets them up to be different if they're at the same index?

Edited by Amonimus on May 13th 2022 at 12:54:22 PM

TroperWall / WikiMagic Cleanup
Twiddler (On A Trope Odyssey)
#6255: May 13th 2022 at 3:48:01 PM

I've just noticed two things about our software. When you edit your forum posts, it indicates the date of the latest edit, but it is twelve hours earlier than the time used for post themselves, giving the odd impression that someone changed their post before they actually posted.

I think that depends on your time zone.

Piterpicher Veteran Editor IV from Poland, for real (Series 2) Relationship Status: Armed with the Power of Love
Veteran Editor IV
#6256: May 13th 2022 at 4:44:13 PM

I think the first YMMV header is for Fridge pages, as they're meant to always have their own page even if there's only one example, so you wouldn't technically put them on YMMV.

Currently mostly inactive. An incremental game I tested: https://galaxy.click/play/176 (Gods of Incremental)
PurpleEyedGuma Since: Apr, 2020
#6257: May 13th 2022 at 4:53:59 PM

The second is for YMMV tropes, and the third is for Audience Reactions.

Amonimus the "Retromancer" from <<|Wiki Talk|>> (Sergeant) Relationship Status: In another castle
the "Retromancer"
#6258: May 13th 2022 at 5:10:07 PM

Okay, I've figured it out. The confusion was due to some being listed at both YMMV and Audience Reaction. Actually I think I'll bring that up as well but elsewhere.

e: Did that.

Edited by Amonimus on May 13th 2022 at 3:51:21 PM

TroperWall / WikiMagic Cleanup
Amonimus the "Retromancer" from <<|Wiki Talk|>> (Sergeant) Relationship Status: In another castle
the "Retromancer"
#6259: May 13th 2022 at 5:44:57 PM

While at it, I've found WMG.Poison Oak Epileptic Trees. For a page (even has 210 wicks) it's quite unique.

TroperWall / WikiMagic Cleanup
Wafer Troy Verde from the Banjo-Tooie world, meditating (Life not ruined yet) Relationship Status: Non-Canon
Troy Verde
#6260: May 13th 2022 at 6:04:18 PM

Why is the Troper Map thread still stickied? I thought people were smarter when it comes to circumventing themselves getting doxed.

Guys how cool would it be if Super Megaforce had a green ranger...
RacattackForce (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#6261: May 13th 2022 at 6:13:51 PM

The Troper Map thread freaks me out, to be honest. So many people okay with just... telling everyone here exactly where you live? Not even your city or town, but the precise geographical location? Then again, I'm the type of person who asked White Pages to take me off their public listings.

MacronNotes (she/her) (Captain) Relationship Status: Less than three
(she/her)
#6262: May 13th 2022 at 6:21:40 PM

It's a relic of an older time. It's still there because no one asked for it to be in-stickied and we don't pay as much attention to Yack Fest. I wouldn't unpinning it if that's what others want.

EDIT: It's un-stickied now.

Edited by MacronNotes on May 13th 2022 at 9:55:03 AM

Macron's notes
Amonimus the "Retromancer" from <<|Wiki Talk|>> (Sergeant) Relationship Status: In another castle
the "Retromancer"
#6263: May 13th 2022 at 6:21:52 PM

Now that I've checked that, to me it looks almost as bad as some NSFW threads that got locked. It also got exponentially less active over a decade. Feel free to argue there if there's fun in giving your exact location on Google Maps along with username and Holler mods for an opinion.

Edited by Amonimus on May 13th 2022 at 4:24:07 PM

TroperWall / WikiMagic Cleanup
themayorofsimpleton Short-Term Projects Herald | he/him from the Island of Koridai (Captain) Relationship Status: I won't say I'm in love
Short-Term Projects Herald | he/him
#6264: May 13th 2022 at 7:24:39 PM

I don't even say what town I live in. Not safe IMO. I usually just say "downstate NY".

Works That Require Cleanup of Complaining | Troper Wall
WarJay77 It's NaNo, Bay-beeee! (8,356/50,000) from My Writing Cave (Troper Knight) Relationship Status: Armed with the Power of Love
It's NaNo, Bay-beeee! (8,356/50,000)
#6265: May 13th 2022 at 7:25:47 PM

I think I'm on the troper map, but eh, I don't feel like it narrows me down too much.

Working on: Author Appeal | Sandbox | Troper Wall
mightymewtron Word Up from New New York Since: Oct, 2012 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
Word Up
#6266: May 14th 2022 at 12:10:15 AM

What's the purpose of a troper map anyway, besides basic demographics? Figuring out the best location for Troper Con TM?

(I know you can bond with people in similar locations but you could make a forum in covens for that anyway, plus I don't really come here to socialize with people in a non-media context.)

Edited by mightymewtron on May 14th 2022 at 3:10:57 PM

I do some cleanup and then I enjoy shows you probably think are cringe.
Piterpicher Veteran Editor IV from Poland, for real (Series 2) Relationship Status: Armed with the Power of Love
Veteran Editor IV
#6267: May 14th 2022 at 12:43:36 AM

Yeah... Maybe such meetups could have been good actually, but we're not a major corporation like Wikimedia who can easily set those up and control them every year and the users seem a little too spread out for such an event to bring more than a few people. And honestly, saying more than the country you live in (and potentially the state if you live in the US) is a little too much IMO.

Edited by Piterpicher on May 14th 2022 at 9:47:07 PM

Currently mostly inactive. An incremental game I tested: https://galaxy.click/play/176 (Gods of Incremental)
N1KF Alleged Number1KirbyFan (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: In Lesbians with you
Alleged Number1KirbyFan
#6268: May 14th 2022 at 1:03:09 AM

I just realized you can remove the "pmwiki/pmwiki.php/" part of the URL to link to a wiki page! https://tvtropes.org/Main/Trope for example.

Piterpicher Veteran Editor IV from Poland, for real (Series 2) Relationship Status: Armed with the Power of Love
Veteran Editor IV
#6269: May 14th 2022 at 1:30:12 AM

Yeah, seen that already, but it can make linking to the wiki elsewhere look less cumbersome.

Edited by Piterpicher on May 14th 2022 at 10:30:25 AM

Currently mostly inactive. An incremental game I tested: https://galaxy.click/play/176 (Gods of Incremental)
FernandoLemon Since: Aug, 2015
#6270: May 14th 2022 at 8:31:53 AM

The only reason why cleaning up moments images at Image Pickin' got its own pinned thread was because individual threads stagnated for about a week before closing unceremoniously.

However, there are two other types of individual threads that are just as common that would've likely received their own pinned thread by now if it weren't for the fact that they don't stagnate, since replacement suggestions are way easier to find: one is replacing screenshots in work pages for official art, and the other is replacing character images in creator pages for a shot of the creator themselves.

WarJay77 It's NaNo, Bay-beeee! (8,356/50,000) from My Writing Cave (Troper Knight) Relationship Status: Armed with the Power of Love
It's NaNo, Bay-beeee! (8,356/50,000)
#6271: May 14th 2022 at 10:55:59 AM

I've noticed that the longer and older a trope's description is, the more likely it is to be a confused, meandering mess. I assume this is just the result of too many cooks in the kitchen.

Working on: Author Appeal | Sandbox | Troper Wall
Amonimus the "Retromancer" from <<|Wiki Talk|>> (Sergeant) Relationship Status: In another castle
the "Retromancer"
#6272: May 14th 2022 at 10:58:49 AM

Clear, Concise, Witty needs to apply to descriptions as well

TroperWall / WikiMagic Cleanup
Parable Since: Aug, 2009
#6273: May 14th 2022 at 11:45:28 AM

How come the Troper Updates II, Part II is called that and what happened to the OG Troper Updates thread?

The original Troper Updates was started by Fast Eddie as "Kinda like Twitter with more than 140 characters, but less than a blog or LJ." It was easily the single longest single thread on the forums and was incredibly busy as it was the closest thing we had to a general hangout thread for the longest time. It would expand by multiple pages daily.

At one point Fast Eddie declared his intention to "Shut this shit down." Which caused a brief panic among the users before Eddie revealed he was just messing with us.

A couple of years later it became too big for the site, which prompted Eddie to announce he really was going to nuke the thread this time. Then he did so, but opened up Troper Updates II, again as "Kinda like Twitter with more than 140 characters, but less than a blog or LJ," at the same time, so nothing really changed.

Then when the just bugs me emoji became a thing, someone decided to have fun with it by using it like 50 times in a single post and then copying that post over dozen times in Troper Updates.

It crashed your web browser just opening the page.

Naturally a lot of people were very mad and confused. The mods or Eddie tried to fix it by deleting those posts entirely, a process called Skullfucking at the time. I assume this seemed like the more practical solution at the time as opposed to going through each post and thumping them individually.

That was the day we found out the hard way that Skullfucking was bad.

Or rather, using it too much on a thread completely screwed with how that thread worked. After all those posted were deleted the page and post numbers were just nonsense digits. Make a new post and you'd be hurled back to somewhere in the middle of the thread. The post you made ended up somewhere else entirely, but not at the end of the thread anymore, if there even was one at that point.

Eddie spent a good while trying to fix it. Meanwhile, we started Troper Updates II, Part II to continue our activities. If you go back to the first page you can see folks still commenting on the situation. Eventually Eddie declared the old thread a lost cause and just locked it, and it was finally lost in one of the regular forum sweeps. So Troper Updates II, Part II became the new permanent thread by default.

So there's a bit of Tvtropes history for ya. Hope you young 'uns enjoyed. Remember the moral of the story: Don't spam just bugs me or you'll skullfuck a thread to death.

Ultimatum Disasturbator from The Wiggle Room (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#6274: May 14th 2022 at 11:47:39 AM

skull fuckery is a twisted and outlawed practise,thankfully.

have a listen and have a link to my discord server
ShinyCottonCandy Everyone's friend Malamar from Lumiose City (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Everyone's friend Malamar
#6275: May 14th 2022 at 11:57:23 AM

Well, I guess that's as close to a Time Crash as possible in real life.

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