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One thing I've noticed is that for all how the page for They Might Be Giants claims them to be the unofficial official band of this wiki, there's relatively few people on this site who seem to ever reference them.

Edited by GastonRabbit on Oct 13th 2024 at 12:59:03 PM

MacronNotes (she/her) (Captain) Relationship Status: Less than three
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#4801: Feb 20th 2022 at 11:22:14 AM

I make work pages for obscure stuff so I get excited when I see people contribute to the pages which I assume they found via crosswicked tropes.

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NitroIndigo ♀ | Small ripples lead to big waves from West Midlands region, England Since: Jun, 2021 Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
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#4802: Feb 20th 2022 at 12:10:02 PM

I just noticed that there are no PS5 or Xbox Series examples on ObviousBeta.Video Games, because the Switch is lumped in with the eighth-generation consoles.note 

RacattackForce (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#4803: Feb 20th 2022 at 12:51:27 PM

[up] The Switch is a bit of an oddball that doesn't fit cleanly into the "generations" categorization that we've been using for the past few decades. It's a successor to the Wii U, yes, but its main competitors for the first four years of its existence were also the Wii U's competitors, the Xbox One and PS4. And assuming the Switch's successor releases in late 2023/early 2024, then it will have spent three years competing with the XSX and PS5. Nintendo is just off the wider generational cadence for gaming hardware, and I don't see them ever syncing back up unless a future console is a Wii U-level failure.

TLDR: Switch is just as much an 8th generation console as it is a 9th generation console, and their future hardware will probably be similar stories.

Edited by RacattackForce on Feb 20th 2022 at 3:53:25 PM

JankyKong He's finally back to kick some... wait from a Secret Base on the Moon Since: May, 2021 Relationship Status: TV Tropes ruined my love life
He's finally back to kick some... wait
#4804: Feb 20th 2022 at 1:49:45 PM

Certain entries on Obvious Beta (particularly the Video Games subpage) feature lots of complaining and snark. I know that by nature, the trope has kind of negative connotations, but even then, a lot of it seems quite unnecessary.

Your melody still remains in this room and it rings
Bluethorn CHOMPION from Partash Since: Jan, 2018 Relationship Status: Star-crossed
CHOMPION
#4805: Feb 20th 2022 at 1:57:11 PM

Yeah... a lot of examples also ignore the disclaimer at the top saying that only games that are "nigh unplayable at release" should be listed.

Tbh I never really hated his minigames in the original, but they did make them better in the remake.
JankyKong He's finally back to kick some... wait from a Secret Base on the Moon Since: May, 2021 Relationship Status: TV Tropes ruined my love life
He's finally back to kick some... wait
#4806: Feb 20th 2022 at 6:11:39 PM

With that in mind, on closer inspection, there are a surprising number of entries that completely contradict that, as they outright say that the game in question "isn't as bad as other examples on this page".

Your melody still remains in this room and it rings
MacronNotes (she/her) (Captain) Relationship Status: Less than three
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#4807: Feb 20th 2022 at 6:16:06 PM

That's not allowed by the way. Examples shouldn't refer to back to each other. I have found entries that refer back to since deleted entries on trope pages more than once.

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NitroIndigo ♀ | Small ripples lead to big waves from West Midlands region, England Since: Jun, 2021 Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
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#4808: Feb 20th 2022 at 10:24:41 PM

Time to do a cleanup!

EDIT: Also, would it be fair to call the Switch an 8.5 generation console?

Edited by NitroIndigo on Feb 21st 2022 at 8:22:52 PM

Amonimus the "Retromancer" from <<|Wiki Talk|>> (Sergeant) Relationship Status: In another castle
the "Retromancer"
#4809: Feb 21st 2022 at 2:22:36 AM

[up] After some time the concept of console generations and Console Wars became so blurry it's effectively meaningless.


Today was the first and last time I've checked the OTC forums because I feel I'm rather sensitive and I already have enough "real life" in social medias. I'm not elaborating.

TroperWall / WikiMagic Cleanup
good-morning Lord Something, Forgetter of Cool Titles from Brazil Since: Nov, 2021
Lord Something, Forgetter of Cool Titles
#4810: Feb 21st 2022 at 4:25:20 AM

The Art namespace is one of my favorites in the site; maybe because it has less tropable content, but it is pretty straightforward and even informative.

oh hey how are you doing?
RacattackForce (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#4811: Feb 21st 2022 at 7:08:07 AM

[up][up][up] Some people do. The Eighth Generation Of Console Video Games page lumps it in with the PS4 Pro and Xbox One X as an 8½ gen.

[up] Huh, didn't even know we had that namespace. Awesome.

Edited by RacattackForce on Feb 21st 2022 at 10:08:19 AM

NitroIndigo ♀ | Small ripples lead to big waves from West Midlands region, England Since: Jun, 2021 Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
♀ | Small ripples lead to big waves
#4812: Feb 21st 2022 at 7:44:58 AM

There's only one My Little Pony character on Pantheon.Ungulates. That shows a remarkable amount of restraint.

JankyKong He's finally back to kick some... wait from a Secret Base on the Moon Since: May, 2021 Relationship Status: TV Tropes ruined my love life
He's finally back to kick some... wait
#4813: Feb 21st 2022 at 7:55:59 AM

Honestly, if My Little Pony's big popularity spike happened more recently, there probably wouldn't be as many characters from it in the Pantheon period, with how the standards have changed over time. At the very least, there would probably be more instances of characters sharing tropes.


Also, is there a cleanup effort for Video Games? Because it kind of seems like it could use one.

Your melody still remains in this room and it rings
NitroIndigo ♀ | Small ripples lead to big waves from West Midlands region, England Since: Jun, 2021 Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
♀ | Small ripples lead to big waves
#4814: Feb 21st 2022 at 8:05:01 AM

What's odder is that several Pantheon pages, including that one, have multiple Pokémon species, but are otherwise one-character-per-work.

I've removed a few misused examples already.

Edited by NitroIndigo on Feb 21st 2022 at 4:20:39 PM

wingedcatgirl mys. minty from the silly dimension from lurking (Holding A Herring) Relationship Status: Oh my word! I'm gay!
mys. minty from the silly dimension
#4815: Feb 21st 2022 at 9:36:27 AM

It's always a bit surreal to remember that the concept of console generations was invented by Wikipedia for an internal project.

Suddenly I'm... still rotating Fallen London in my mind even though I've stopped actively playing it.
PurpleEyedGuma Since: Apr, 2020
#4816: Feb 21st 2022 at 9:46:24 AM

It all seemed so clear-cut until the Switch came out.

JankyKong He's finally back to kick some... wait from a Secret Base on the Moon Since: May, 2021 Relationship Status: TV Tropes ruined my love life
He's finally back to kick some... wait
#4817: Feb 21st 2022 at 9:47:26 AM

Wait, seriously? I never knew that.

Your melody still remains in this room and it rings
Amonimus the "Retromancer" from <<|Wiki Talk|>> (Sergeant) Relationship Status: In another castle
Synchronicity (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#4819: Feb 21st 2022 at 2:20:21 PM

I love the image on Don't You Dare Pity Me!, it illustrates a dialogue trope perfectly through body language and lighting without a single letter.

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Troy Verde
#4820: Feb 21st 2022 at 6:18:55 PM

I wanted to talk about how oddly vague some of the Transformers trope examples were, but it turns out I was imagining it. Here's the entry in mind I was going to talk about, from What Do You Mean, It's for Kids?:

  • Transformers: Prime was touted by a director as an "adult transformers series he wanted to make". When you get down to it, it's a miracle they got by with the main combatants all being robots, as this series features a number of themes on War Is Hell and would be pretty graphic if done with people. Other events and themes include kidnapping via internet spying, the Death of a Child almost occurring, references to chemical warfare, named characters being dissected or beaten to death by a protagonist's bare hands, the main villain uses Domestic Abuse on the other villain, and other serious issues like drug abuse or suicide via Heroic Sacrifice.
Now that I think about it, this sounds really weird out of context.

Guys how cool would it be if Super Megaforce had a green ranger...
good-morning Lord Something, Forgetter of Cool Titles from Brazil Since: Nov, 2021
Lord Something, Forgetter of Cool Titles
#4821: Feb 21st 2022 at 7:35:24 PM

[up][up]The Prince of Egypt really is a masterpiece, and I also can't think of a better image to illustrate the trope. Dialogue-driven tropes are always tricky, but that scene really shows a powerful moment with nothing more than lights, expressions and gestures.

Edited by good-morning on Feb 21st 2022 at 12:42:43 PM

oh hey how are you doing?
Amonimus the "Retromancer" from <<|Wiki Talk|>> (Sergeant) Relationship Status: In another castle
the "Retromancer"
#4822: Feb 21st 2022 at 7:37:13 PM

The importance of body language.

TroperWall / WikiMagic Cleanup
Amonimus the "Retromancer" from <<|Wiki Talk|>> (Sergeant) Relationship Status: In another castle
the "Retromancer"
#4823: Feb 22nd 2022 at 4:33:52 AM

I've discovered that italicizing The Bible is inconsistent across the size, and I guess it makes sense to some since it's often called "the first book" (not historically), but I still think it should be treated like a book name.

Edited by Amonimus on Feb 22nd 2022 at 3:35:47 PM

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PurpleEyedGuma Since: Apr, 2020
#4824: Feb 22nd 2022 at 9:18:13 AM

I still don’t know why the hell Late to the Action doesn’t show up in the recent Launches list.

JankyKong He's finally back to kick some... wait from a Secret Base on the Moon Since: May, 2021 Relationship Status: TV Tropes ruined my love life
He's finally back to kick some... wait
#4825: Feb 22nd 2022 at 9:20:36 AM

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