By the way guys, I listed the White Fang as Unintentionally Unsympathetic in YMMV pages:
Is this entry cool or unwarranted?
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I say keep it in. The White Fang are Jerk Asses outside of Blake. The big question is, how much of this was from before Cinder took over and how much worse did she make them?.
edited 3rd Feb '16 12:21:27 PM by Guy01
Ok, who let Light Yagami in here?Oh, he did. It's just that he described the White Fang as one of the products of Faunus discrimination.
As for Blake, while she is deluded nobody called her out of it just yet, so I think it's safe to assume that they are meant to be seen as misguided.
Continuously reading, studying, and (hopefully) growing.I don't think the White Fang is supposed to be sympathetic. We've already had Sun point out that the White Fang set themselves up as the voice of faunus without permission from ordinary faunus, and he had nothing good to say about them, and did not like the reasoning for why the White Fang wear masks. We also have Oobleck point out that going to extremes is very bad, using the White Fang as an example - while he expressed disgust with ill-treatment of anyone with faunus heritage, he was also clear that the White Fang are completely in the wrong.
We've been told that the current White Fang leadership turned on their own to obtain leadership so that they could enact their own agenda. We've also had at least two White Fang defectors, along with the information that White Fang has zero tolerance for defection - Mercury and Emerald may have killed Tukson, but Cinder indicated that the reason Roman was supposed to do it was because it was the White Fang who put the hit out and Cinder's team was supposed to do it for them as part of their alliance.
I think the White Fang are intentionally portrayed as unsympathetic.
edited 3rd Feb '16 12:47:16 PM by Wyldchyld
If my post doesn't mention a giant flying sperm whale with oversized teeth and lionfish fins for flippers, it just isn't worth reading.My guess about Ironwood's fate is that he's grounded and has survived the cockpit, but he's going to be roughed up in a way that reveals the truth about his arm. I'm afraid that's all I see the cockpit scene being - a set-up to reveal his arm.
If my post doesn't mention a giant flying sperm whale with oversized teeth and lionfish fins for flippers, it just isn't worth reading.You know, I really do hope they do more to show discrimination against Faunus, and confirm the fanon that faunus enjoy significantly better rights in Vale than in the other kingdoms. It's the same issue with Legend Of Korra in the first season (never watched the others), where you had a totally-not-communist revolution going on, and no real indication that the working class was all that oppressed, or that there was anything seriously wrong with society; revolutions, terrorism, and general unrest are symptoms of serious problems in a society.
There can be behind the scenes racism that isn't "In the street, you filthy animal" or "Oh, cat ears... I'm sorry, we don't serve your kind" obvious. There may have been a faunus rights movement in years past that doesn't get casually mentioned. I imagine Mistral being the overly racist nation. Atlas seems too militaristic to worry about animal traits (night vision might be useful for Special Operations), Vacuo seems to casual to be bothered, and Vale is... Vale.
Now I'm imagining a "Faunus Lives Matter" event happening.
edited 3rd Feb '16 1:53:44 PM by WillDeRegio
Amber: Oh! Solitaire!
Pyrrha: ... What?
Amber: You have solitaire up here!
Pyrrha: I do?
edited 3rd Feb '16 2:02:53 PM by WillDeRegio
@Will: Atlas is also the home of the SDC, an extremely controversial energy conglomerate infamous for its treatment of its faunus workers, so I'd say Atlas is likely the most overt about it. Perhaps raw dust causes (dust based) electronics to go haywire, meaning it needs to be mined like hand. Something like that would pretty much inevitably lead to something resembling slavery or serfdom, though probably not called as much.
Sorry for being late on this one, but since I made the joke WMG about why RWBY is going dark is because of Cloud being released for Smash Bros, and seeing the reply of Bayonetta would stomp the Grimm Dragon makes me think of SSB characters partaking in the battle of Beacon...
Fox and Falco would be destroying the White Fang ships (possibly Adam too), while Mega Man and Sonic would take the Altas military. (Now the thought of Sonic being nearby when Blake confronts Adam seems hilarious)
And I can imagine Pit and Dark Pit taking on Grimm.
AAAAUUUUGGGHHHH!!!!![]()
Counterpoint: Neon Katt.
I also kinda forgot about the whole faunus labor force. It could also be like coal mining. Only more dangerous.
Faunus labor force are illegal immigrants from a worse nation, came to Atlas for a better life... Oh.
edited 3rd Feb '16 2:11:23 PM by WillDeRegio
Amber!Pyrrha: Girls these days and their coy silliness. Back in my days, we wouldn't bother with all these getting close and dates and other nonsenses. We would just ride our horse and snatch up the boys we fancied.
Jaune: uh...
Amber!Pyrrha: Now, where's my horse?
Jaune: I'm...just gonna leave.
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