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powerpuffbats The crabby fussbudget Since: Mar, 2014 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
The crabby fussbudget
#48601: Nov 7th 2017 at 10:57:02 AM

I loved Yang's response to learning that Raven kidnapped Weiss.

AAAAUUUUGGGHHHH!!!!
Fourthspartan56 from Georgia, US Since: Oct, 2016 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
#48602: Nov 7th 2017 at 10:58:08 AM

Since the episode is up for free accounts do we have to use spoilers? Or are we waiting until it goes up on Youtube?

"Einstein would turn over in his grave. Not only does God play dice, the dice are loaded." -Chairman Sheng-Ji Yang
powerpuffbats The crabby fussbudget Since: Mar, 2014 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
The crabby fussbudget
#48603: Nov 7th 2017 at 10:59:22 AM

[up]I'm just doing it out of courtesy.

AAAAUUUUGGGHHHH!!!!
Fourthspartan56 from Georgia, US Since: Oct, 2016 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
#48604: Nov 7th 2017 at 11:02:44 AM

[up]Sure, I wasn't specifically criticizing you. Just wasn't sure about the thread's policy on spoilers.

"Einstein would turn over in his grave. Not only does God play dice, the dice are loaded." -Chairman Sheng-Ji Yang
LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#48605: Nov 7th 2017 at 11:09:10 AM

This thread seems pretty wishy washy about that. It usually keeps happening until someone stops.

FergardStratoavis A Fluff Ringer from Bellveins (Troper Knight) Relationship Status: A gay little love melody
TheLovecraftian Since: Jul, 2017
#48607: Nov 7th 2017 at 11:29:07 AM

Alright. Episode 4.

Training scene. Felt a bit like a sitcom, especially with the weirdly cheery music in the background, but it achieved what it meant to.

Yang time! Lovely to see her fight properly again, though I do think her fight scenes are a bit more slowed down in Maya than they were in Poser. Still really awesome though. And her being led by the beaten-up bandits was hilarious.

Loved her interaction with Raven. No love lost there. And although I wondered at first, her reason to go after Raven makes complete sense if she's not getting Ruby's letters. Raven's Semblance is very interesting, and it clears quite a lot of speculation about her... and it's incredibly ironic that someone who cares for so few has a Semblance that connects her to them.

First two RWBY girls together! Yay! (Can I ship them again? I know they've been really teasing Bumblebee, but I can still hope for Freezerburn.) Jokes aside, though, Weiss' reaction to meeting Yang was adorable. Really happy they met up again.

All in all, great episode. Pretty into it.

Also, just to get his out of my system: So while Qrow wants to be close to his loved ones but can't, his sister gets the power to be with those she loves at any time and decides she doesn't care about that. Nice. I don't know what's worse, Qrow dealing with that or Tai dealing with the knowledge that his wife could be by his side at any time and intentionally chooses not to.

edited 7th Nov '17 11:33:54 AM by TheLovecraftian

sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#48608: Nov 7th 2017 at 11:43:44 AM

Raven was once part of Ozpin's faction, and it's conceivable that her falling out with them occurred as a result of her learning something he'd tried to hide even from his "trusted" lieutenants.
We're unlikely to see that get told offscreen. My question was in reference to your "rather than just being an off-screen plot device to get them up to speed.", which I interpreted as referring to Raven telling the girls more recent plot events we already know about, which Raven wouldn't.

CaptainCapsase from Orbiting Sagittarius A* Since: Jan, 2015
#48609: Nov 7th 2017 at 11:52:27 AM

[up] I meant she could tell them about the Maidens, Ozpin's body surfing, and so on. Things we already know.

Fourthspartan56 from Georgia, US Since: Oct, 2016 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
#48610: Nov 7th 2017 at 11:55:25 AM

Training scene. Felt a bit like a sitcom, especially with the weirdly cheery music in the background, but it achieved what it meant to.
I liked it, Ruby was adorable and Nora (as usual) was best girl.

Yang time! Lovely to see her fight properly again, though I do think her fight scenes are a bit more slowed down in Maya than they were in Poser. Still really awesome though. And her being led by the beaten-up bandits was hilarious.
Agreed.

Loved her interaction with Raven. No love lost there. And although I wondered at first, her reason to go after Raven makes complete sense if she's not getting Ruby's letters. Raven's Semblance is very interesting, and it clears quite a lot of speculation about her... and it's incredibly ironic that someone who cares for so few has a Semblance that connects her to them.
Agreed, though I did think that if Yang wants something from Raven being a tad more diplomatic might've been more effective. But I'm not surprised she wasn't friendly, Raven is a terrible mother.

First two RWBY girls together! Yay! (Can I ship them again? I know they've been really teasing Bumblebee, but I can still hope for Freezerburn.) Jokes aside, though, Weiss' reaction to meeting Yang was adorable. Really happy they met up again.
I ship it tongue

But yeah that was probably purely platonic, but who knows.

All in all, great episode. Pretty into it.
This just this.

Also, just to get his out of my system: So while Qrow wants to be close to his loved ones but can't, his sister gets the power to be with those she loves at any time and decides she doesn't care about that. Nice. I don't know what's worse, Qrow dealing with that or Tai dealing with the knowledge that his wife could be by his side at any time and intentionally chooses not to.
I love it, it's just so hilarious [lol]

edited 7th Nov '17 11:55:38 AM by Fourthspartan56

"Einstein would turn over in his grave. Not only does God play dice, the dice are loaded." -Chairman Sheng-Ji Yang
LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#48611: Nov 7th 2017 at 11:57:20 AM

I don't know what's worse, Qrow dealing with that or Tai dealing with the knowledge that his wife could be by his side at any time and intentionally chooses not to.

I don't get people talking as if Taiyang hasn't already moved on from that relationship. I mean, yeah, I'm sure he still cares about Raven, but he moved on with Summer. Seriously, it's probably more like he was married to her rather than Raven.

edited 7th Nov '17 11:57:51 AM by LSBK

TheLovecraftian Since: Jul, 2017
#48612: Nov 7th 2017 at 12:05:14 PM

[up]He may have moved on, but I imagine it must have been a hard thing to deal with at first, knowing that.

[up][up]Yeah, Freezerburn! It was probably platonic, but we can hope. And I get the feeling Yang is just fed up with people abandoning her. It looked to me like Yang is kind of done with her mother, and if she wasn't her best way to get to Ruby, Yang wouldn't even have considered going after Raven. Makes me wonder how she's going to react to Blake when they meet again. There's going to be some tension there.

edited 7th Nov '17 12:05:52 PM by TheLovecraftian

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#48613: Nov 7th 2017 at 12:10:47 PM

I can not hope because "Freezer Burn" and the rest really, would make no sense and have no build up. No, not even "Bumblebee".

edited 7th Nov '17 12:12:01 PM by LSBK

Fourthspartan56 from Georgia, US Since: Oct, 2016 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
#48614: Nov 7th 2017 at 12:13:09 PM

[up]I mean yeah if they randomly started making out then that would be stupid, but I would hope that any kind of romance would be gradual and well-developed. Still I know that I'm not going to be bothered when it probably doesn't happen.

"Einstein would turn over in his grave. Not only does God play dice, the dice are loaded." -Chairman Sheng-Ji Yang
TheLovecraftian Since: Jul, 2017
#48615: Nov 7th 2017 at 12:14:13 PM

[up][up]Indeed. But it's fun to speculate and all.

Personally, that's sort of the reason I don't like White Rose. Don't really see it at all. Only ship I really see a possibility for is Ladybug, since they at least share some interests, but even then it's reaching. It's the sort of thing that we can hope for, but no one is really going to be disappointed if their big ship doesn't come true. Well... most people won't, at least. I remember the ATLA Shipping Wars.

[up]And yeah. Developments can always happen. If they get together now it'd be really weird, but give it some time and bonding and it can be pulled off.

edited 7th Nov '17 12:20:37 PM by TheLovecraftian

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#48616: Nov 7th 2017 at 12:15:57 PM

There's "gradual" and then there's "non-existent". Even Bumblebee is just seems to be mostly teasing on Rooster Teeth's part than anything of substance.

I've just oddly annoyed with shipping right now.

Fourthspartan56 from Georgia, US Since: Oct, 2016 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
#48617: Nov 7th 2017 at 12:19:50 PM

There's "gradual" and then there's "non-existent". Even Bumblebee is just seems to be mostly teasing on Rooster Teeth's part than anything of substance.
I said if it happens it should be gradual, not that it's currently happening.

I've just oddly annoyed with shipping right now.
That's understandable, crazy shippers are just the worst. Thankfully none of them are here tongue

"Einstein would turn over in his grave. Not only does God play dice, the dice are loaded." -Chairman Sheng-Ji Yang
TheLovecraftian Since: Jul, 2017
#48618: Nov 7th 2017 at 12:20:40 PM

[up][up]I find shipping is fine so long as it doesn't get out of hand. Provided no actual issues come from shipping and discussing it, I don't really see a problem.

Also, it's why I sort of jokingly asked if I could ship them. I know some people don't really like it, and that some other people go way overboard with this kind of thing. Personally, I just find it enjoyable to ship characters a bit.

edited 7th Nov '17 12:20:52 PM by TheLovecraftian

Fourthspartan56 from Georgia, US Since: Oct, 2016 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
#48619: Nov 7th 2017 at 12:21:46 PM

Also, it's why I sort of jokingly asked if I could ship them. I know some people don't really like it, and that some other people go way overboard with this kind of thing. Personally, I just find it enjoyable to ship characters a bit.
This is my position, shipping can be fun/amusing but it's almost never a serious thing.

"Einstein would turn over in his grave. Not only does God play dice, the dice are loaded." -Chairman Sheng-Ji Yang
LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#48620: Nov 7th 2017 at 12:27:04 PM

But anyway, this explains how Raven got to Yang, but it doesn't explain how she knew she needed help. Unless that's just a part of the semblance too?

edited 7th Nov '17 12:32:22 PM by LSBK

Darthwyn leader of Inherit from The void Since: Feb, 2016 Relationship Status: You cannot grasp the true form
leader of Inherit
#48621: Nov 7th 2017 at 12:28:19 PM

I would imagine the knowledge that a person you were close enough with to have a child with has the ability to come whenever they want but seems to have no interest in being anywhere near you or her own daughter would hit hard. Even if he has moved on I could still see that being a sore spot, especially after summer died. Generally shared grief would bring people closer, but I am guessing Raven either completely went AWOL sometime after summer died or possibly before depending on what made her stop trusting Ozpin.

[up] I wouldn't be surprised if it did come with a connection of some kind that would allow her to know when one of the people she has that kind of bond with is in danger. That or maternal instincts which she decided to not to ignore at that moment. tongue

edited 7th Nov '17 12:30:23 PM by Darthwyn

"Shall I use you, or make you mine... I'm not so sure what I'll do." - Dorthy
CaptainCapsase from Orbiting Sagittarius A* Since: Jan, 2015
#48622: Nov 7th 2017 at 12:28:21 PM

[up][up] It seems likely.

[up] It’s kinda implied Raven has been watching Yang in bird form, but has more or less declined to speak with her or Taiyang.

edited 7th Nov '17 12:29:36 PM by CaptainCapsase

TheLovecraftian Since: Jul, 2017
#48623: Nov 7th 2017 at 12:30:28 PM

[up][up][up]I'd been wondering that. Maybe her Semblance giver her a warning? Or the portals allow her to see what they're doing? Either way, I think Yang may have really lucked out at that moment.

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#48624: Nov 7th 2017 at 12:31:51 PM

Her semblance makes things much more expedient, but it's not like there was any reason to think that Raven was forced to go, or couldn't come back when she wanted to either way. Nothing we've learned actually changes that. Unless you're just talking about there being no rationalizations, but even then, if you really wanted to make some excuses for her you could.

edited 7th Nov '17 12:38:24 PM by LSBK

TheLovecraftian Since: Jul, 2017
#48625: Nov 7th 2017 at 1:02:34 PM

You know, I'd find it interesting if instead of showing us Raven telling Yang and Weiss her story, they just skipped over that to make us think she's just catching them up on things, but then surprised with with a reveal by the end of the Volume. Raven clearly has a reason to have left Ozpin, and it would be a more interesting way to let us in on it than if they just outright tell it to us

[down].Exactly.

edited 7th Nov '17 1:12:57 PM by TheLovecraftian


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