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WillDeRegio Since: Jan, 2015
#47051: Jul 30th 2017 at 10:07:13 AM

[up]Aura, son. In order to inflict actual injuries, you'd first have to wear down someone's Aura. In Cinder's case, it's tanking a bunch of gears to the everything. Inflicting bodily harm would be at a point in the fight is where one fighter effectively wins, unless both combatants have depleted Auras.

[up][up][up]Achilles went by the name Pyrrha when he decided to crossdress to draft dodge the Trojan War.

I personally hope that they manage to get more milage out of Pyrrha postmortem, especially with Ruby apparently hearing her in her dreams or whatever was going on during Volume 4.

edited 30th Jul '17 10:11:13 AM by WillDeRegio

Pulse The Fool from Yadayadaville Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
The Fool
#47052: Jul 30th 2017 at 10:08:43 AM

Aura, son. In order to inflict actual injuries, you first have to wear down someone's Aura. In Cinder's case, it's tanking a bunch of gears to the everything. Inflicting bodily harm would be at a point in the fight is where one fighter effectively wins, unless both combatants have depleted Auras.
I'd argue my main point still stands.

edited 30th Jul '17 10:09:54 AM by Pulse

I sure said that!
sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#47053: Jul 30th 2017 at 10:09:52 AM

[up][up][up]Achilles went by the name Pyrrha when he decided to crossdress to draft dodge the Trojan War.
Thank you. What about Ren? Is his and Mulan's name a reference to the same thing? Or is it the same scenario, Lie Ren is the name Fa Mulan used?

unknowing from somewhere.. Since: Mar, 2014
#47054: Jul 30th 2017 at 10:12:42 AM

@Jovian: in ozpin words: "the tower must not fall" Phyrra know she cant take cinder and they cant contact glinda and Qrow, but she also know that whatever the tower means cinder most not destroy it.

Now that issue is disconet from Ruby power that stop cinder.

edited 30th Jul '17 10:14:37 AM by unknowing

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WillDeRegio Since: Jan, 2015
#47055: Jul 30th 2017 at 10:19:10 AM

[up][up]Ren means "Lotus" in Japanese, and Mulan means "Magnolia" in Chinese, so they've got a theme going on there.

Thelastwarrior Since: Jun, 2017
#47056: Jul 30th 2017 at 10:22:04 AM

Speaking of Pmoney have you heard about how the Japanese dub of RWBY has been botched.

Ssj3Gojira Arashi Shigehito from The Event Horizon Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
Arashi Shigehito
#47057: Jul 30th 2017 at 11:05:22 AM

I mean, if everyone in team JNPR had to follow the same outcome as their counterpart, then they'd all be doomed from the start; Joan of Arc was burned at the cross, Thor dies fighting an at least continent-sized snake, and Mulan, if we are going beyond the original poem, ends up committing suicide in grief.

edited 30th Jul '17 11:05:38 AM by Ssj3Gojira

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IniuriaTalis Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: Love, football, the arts, the occasional pint
#47058: Jul 30th 2017 at 11:14:50 AM

I think the difference is that for Achilles, his death is the most iconic and well-remembered part of his story. Everyone knows what Achilles' heel is.

Meanwhile, for Mulan and Thor only people intimately familiar with their original stories will know how and when they die. Jeanne is more borderline, because her death is very famous but not necessarily the most famous part about her.

I would say the only other JNPR member whose story could point to them dying would be Jaune potentially ending up Together in Death with Pyrrha.

edited 30th Jul '17 11:15:28 AM by IniuriaTalis

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Pulse The Fool from Yadayadaville Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
The Fool
#47059: Jul 30th 2017 at 11:15:17 AM

And I kinda doubt that much happening to them.

Hell, Juane was on-screen more than any one of Weiss, Blake or Yang for a while at the start.

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Psyga315 Since: Jan, 2001
#47060: Jul 30th 2017 at 11:15:31 AM

[up] Guess we'll wait until Volume 6 to see who bites it.

Pulse The Fool from Yadayadaville Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
The Fool
#47061: Jul 30th 2017 at 11:20:55 AM

Honestly? The deaths so far have been given such gravity that I feel pretty confident they're not gonna be a common thing.

Hell, if Pyhha stays around as much as she has in the spinoffs I'm not sure how much I can buy her being gone for good.

edited 30th Jul '17 11:25:28 AM by Pulse

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Eagal Since: Apr, 2012
#47062: Jul 30th 2017 at 11:31:43 AM

wild mass guessIt's going to end with everyone else dead and Team RWBY going after Team Salem.

Yang, Weiss and Blake will do that thing where they square off against one dude and the rest go on ahead, leaving Ruby alone to fight Salem at the end. And then No Ontological Inertia brings everyone back to life or something. wild mass guess

edited 30th Jul '17 11:32:04 AM by Eagal

FergardStratoavis A Fluff Ringer from Bellveins (Troper Knight) Relationship Status: A gay little love melody
A Fluff Ringer
#47063: Jul 30th 2017 at 11:50:26 AM

I'm gonna go ahead and say that short of RWBY everybody will be fair game the further we'll go into the plot. If they plan to stick to the formula of Vol. 1 > 2 > 3 (Establishment > Raising of Stakes > Crashdown), then Vol. 5 is the ROS.

Renora's plot has been mostly resolved, really. Short of finding Nora's origins, their development is complete. Jaune and Ruby both have stuff to prove yet. As for Villains, the most disposable one at the moment is, ironically, Adam (since he's explicitly stated to be a pawn, though I don't see him biting it yet without Qrow or someone of this power getting in on the action); unless Cinder and her posse are sent to Mistral, then the dubious honor hoes to M&M's.

edited 30th Jul '17 11:51:33 AM by FergardStratoavis

NativeJovian Jupiterian Local from Orlando, FL Since: Mar, 2014 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
Jupiterian Local
#47064: Jul 30th 2017 at 1:21:31 PM

in ozpin words: "the tower must not fall" Phyrra know she cant take cinder and they cant contact glinda and Qrow, but she also know that whatever the tower means cinder most not destroy it.
Yeah, but Pyrrha also knows (or at least should know) that she can't actually stop Cinder. Even expecting to last long enough for help to arrive (when they don't know where help is, or even if it's available at all) is pretty dumb. Pyrrha was always the level-headed one, I wouldn't expect her to get herself killed to no purpose out of some sense of unfailing optimism that if she tries to hold Cinder off then someone will come to save the day, right?

Really from Jupiter, but not an alien.
unknowing from somewhere.. Since: Mar, 2014
#47065: Jul 30th 2017 at 1:32:27 PM

[up]Phyrra is level headed sure, but she is also the most duty bound person of all(after all, THAT is why she acept the whole deal) is a slim change jaune can get help but otherwise they must do what they cant to stop the tower for falling.

And even them it was in technical sense correct since Ruby did get into the tower and nothing cant said Weiss coudnt ether, now whatever they can fence Cinder off is another thing.

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Emperordaein Grant us eyes from Australia Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Hugging my pillow
Grant us eyes
#47066: Jul 30th 2017 at 2:19:30 PM

If Cross Tag Battle has a story, watch as they use either alternate timelines or time travel to save Pyrrha so they can explain why she's on the roster.

Only for her to be re-killed before the end

A corpse should be left well enough alone...
Fourthspartan56 from Georgia, US Since: Oct, 2016 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
#47067: Jul 30th 2017 at 3:25:50 PM

Yeah, but Pyrrha also knows (or at least should know) that she can't actually stop Cinder. Even expecting to last long enough for help to arrive (when they don't know where help is, or even if it's available at all) is pretty dumb. Pyrrha was always the level-headed one, I wouldn't expect her to get herself killed to no purpose out of some sense of unfailing optimism that if she tries to hold Cinder off then someone will come to save the day, right?
She sent Jaune away because she likely knew that she couldn't win but she hoped to slow Cinder down before Cinder could do whatever she wanted to do. Sure it may not have been the best idea but she wasn't exactly in the clearest mental state. IMO everything that happened was perfectly believable.

edited 30th Jul '17 3:26:16 PM by Fourthspartan56

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NativeJovian Jupiterian Local from Orlando, FL Since: Mar, 2014 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
Jupiterian Local
#47068: Jul 30th 2017 at 3:33:30 PM

Again, the main problem I had was that I felt like Pyrrha's death was a waste of the character. The fact that you have to rely on "oh, but she wasn't in her right mind at the time" to justify the behavior that got her killed is just adding insult to injury.

Really from Jupiter, but not an alien.
LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#47069: Jul 30th 2017 at 3:34:27 PM

I don't need a teenager who was already wrestling with whether to help save the world or not to make the most logical or clear choices.

Pyrhha's choice wasn't that much different than the one Ironwood gave everyone else: if you want stay and fight to protect your school do it, but no one would blame you if you leave.

xanderiskander Since: Mar, 2012
#47070: Jul 30th 2017 at 3:39:43 PM

This conversation made me have a random thought. With how many female characters there are if Cinder ever dies the odds are pretty likely that one of the main characters will get those powers because of being the last person in Cinder's thoughts while fighting her. Or it might get passed on to Salem.

edited 30th Jul '17 3:41:17 PM by xanderiskander

Karxrida from Eureka, the Forbidden Land Since: May, 2012 Relationship Status: I LOVE THIS DOCTOR!
#47071: Jul 30th 2017 at 3:42:18 PM

I'm willing to bet that Salem can't possess the Maiden powers. Otherwise why bother having Cinder?

xanderiskander Since: Mar, 2012
#47072: Jul 30th 2017 at 3:50:23 PM

Maybe Ozpin's powers exploit a weakness Salem has. That'd be one reason to have him killed by someone else.

The reason they did it that way is pretty vague and melodramatic in general right now.

edited 30th Jul '17 3:52:16 PM by xanderiskander

sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#47073: Jul 30th 2017 at 3:50:51 PM

What did they say would happen if the last person in their thoughts was someone who couldn't have the Maiden powers, like a man?

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#47074: Jul 30th 2017 at 3:52:03 PM

It jumps to someone random and they have to go track her down.

Ssj3Gojira Arashi Shigehito from The Event Horizon Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
Arashi Shigehito
#47075: Jul 30th 2017 at 4:12:12 PM

How does transgenderness factor into the Maiden powers?

edited 30th Jul '17 4:12:20 PM by Ssj3Gojira

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