^100% this
Also I feel like some people need to read up on survivorship bias
before dismissing claims based on exceptional cases
edited 11th Mar '17 9:31:53 AM by ch00beh
"Never let the truth get in the way of a good story." TwitterYes, what Miles and Micheal did was not the best way to do it.... But this is Rooster Teeth, so that's really par for the course. While professionals, they tend to not act it. Ever.
But then again, we don't know what goes on behind the doors at RT, and the only complaints we've seen are from former employees.
Also regarding the Barbara thing: Basically confirmed that the tumblr post was about Kathleen
. And here's the twitter meltdown
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So... basically all we've got regarding this is bitter ex-employees deciding to make it look like their former employers are a worse company than EA, and the second one implies that a woman who already had a successful career before-hand only got to where she is because she's sleeping with Burnie. Classy.
Of course, it's also possible that it's just employees who left for unrelated reasons and are bitter about the experience and are trying to cast shade on Rooster Teeth out of bitterness. We don't know, and we shouldn't make judgments without having something a bit more concrete than competing claims from different people. That said, we should absolutely take the claims seriously, because they're serious claims.
That's not saying "you only got where you are by sleeping with the boss", that's saying "your personal relationships within the company have shaped your experience with it", which is a fair point. The owner's wife is certainly going to be treated differently than other women working at the company.
One of the problems that perpetuates sexual discrimination is how people dismiss the conversation essentially as women being dramatic, but they’re happy to speculate about things like Shane having a fit and leaving over creative differences.
"Never let the truth get in the way of a good story." TwitterI dismiss these allegations because of contrary evidence (Rooster Teeth has a lot of women as the heads of departments, they heavily promote women as the face of their company, the existence of a show like Always Open) and that in the same Twitter rant accused another woman of only getting to where she was by sleeping with someone else (a common sexual discrimination thrown exclusively at women).
It is possible that Kathleen experienced all this while working full time at RT and since she left things have improved, but considering her actions towards Barbara when she started I'm hesitant to take Kathleen's word alone for it.
It wasn't an attack on Ashley. It was saying that she, as the owner's wife, had a different experience than women who were not the owner's wife. That's all.
I don't know anything about what's happened behind closed doors between company and ex-employee. I'm going to say the same thing I said when Shane's letter appeared. All it does is give us an insight into the author's state of mind at the time they post the content.
Bringing the subject of someone blowing up about their employment history with the company here is, I do think, importing drama even if it's between third parties, especially if it leads to posters here passing judgement on motives or behaviours when we cannot genuinely know the actual reasons and thinking processes of others or the truth about any situations that have caused stress to others. All we'd be doing is gossiping. I said the same thing about Shane's letter, too.
We can easily have a discussion about the company without involving any public rants or the inevitable opining that stems from including or focussing on such moments. I frankly think that would be a far better way to discuss the pros and cons of a company.
edited 11th Mar '17 3:57:41 PM by Wyldchyld
If my post doesn't mention a giant flying sperm whale with oversized teeth and lionfish fins for flippers, it just isn't worth reading.
You make a lot of good points, like you always do.
All this is making me wonder though: Will Glynda be killed off because of this, or will she get Darrin'd? 'cause I really doubt they're going to bring back Kathleen after this, and I hope her fate isn't the former, because I like Glynda as a character.
Hm. I was going to post part two of that Volume 4 review I linked a while back, but it spends a solid third of its runtime talking about Shane's letter (not the Twitter breakdown, since this video was only apparently filmed a couple episodes into the volume) and behind-the-scenes stuff at RT still seems like a touchy subject.
It also marks the point where my lack of wanting to actually touch the series proper again starts to seriously interfere with my ability to contextualize the video's criticisms, so... :/
but HOW?

"We deny everything and have nothing else to say" is fine. "We're sorry she feels that way but we have no idea what she's talking about" is fine. "We don't think we did anything wrong, but we're committed to providing a welcoming and professional atmosphere for all our employees, so we're looking into it anyway" is good. "Mistakes were made, we're going to fix this" is good (if mistakes were, in fact, made).
But not taking it seriously — or even appearing to not take it seriously — is not okay.
Really from Jupiter, but not an alien.