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LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#45701: Mar 8th 2017 at 8:57:51 PM

I know, I'm the one who said it. I'm just saying the existence of people with gray eyes (just gray eyes) doesn't mean "silver" eyes isn't supposed to be something special and rare. They've explicitly said it is. I'm not seeing anything to indicate, in story, they're supposed to be the same thing, even if in real life it would just be semantics.

edited 8th Mar '17 9:47:59 PM by LSBK

CaptainCapsase from Orbiting Sagittarius A* Since: Jan, 2015
#45702: Mar 8th 2017 at 9:38:28 PM

[up] Well yes, it's clearly not just semantics in Remnant, but it doesn't seem at all clear to me whether there's any visual distinction between silver eyes and gray eyes, or if you have to be an immortal body surfing wizard to tell them apart prior to getting blasted with eye beams.

CaptainCapsase from Orbiting Sagittarius A* Since: Jan, 2015
#45704: Mar 9th 2017 at 8:22:44 AM

On another topic, I can't help but notice that there's a mildly Unfortunate trend as far as female authority figures in RWBY go, namely that pretty much all of them (Salem, Raven, Sienna Khan, Cinder prior to volume 4) are villains, in contrast to the "good" authority figures who are male with the exception of Glynda. Hopefully that will balance out over time.

Thebrawlbro Since: Aug, 2013
#45705: Mar 9th 2017 at 8:42:21 AM

[up] That's more a side effect of most of the major characters being female. And there are plenty of evil males like Roman, Adam, the rest of Salems group, and the Lionheart.

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#45706: Mar 9th 2017 at 9:10:46 AM

I am not even sure Raven counts as a villain though considering she does not seem to be aligned with Salem. She more the third party faction that has her own objectives, but definitely gains nothing from the main antagonist winning.

Sienna Khan seems to be a neutral party to a degree since based on the conversation Salem is looking to establish an alliance with her. So it could be a matter of seeing if she is useful or allow Adam to go through with the power play I imagine she knows about already.

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CaptainCapsase from Orbiting Sagittarius A* Since: Jan, 2015
#45707: Mar 9th 2017 at 9:28:13 AM

[up][up] There are, but the hierarchy of characters is what makes it slightly problematic; the top dogs on the hero's side are men in charge of a disproportionately female cast, while their villainous counterparts are women in charge of a (slightly) disproportionately male cast.

It's probably not intentional, and it's a fairly mild case which I suspect is more due to order of introduction than anything else, but it's noticeable.

edited 9th Mar '17 9:47:53 AM by CaptainCapsase

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#45708: Mar 9th 2017 at 10:56:31 AM

We don't even know if Sienna Khan is female. And as for Raven, though they'd be better not trying to sell her as a good person, "villain" doesn't really describe what I think her purpose is.

edited 9th Mar '17 10:57:11 AM by LSBK

BlackSunNocturne Since: Aug, 2013
#45709: Mar 9th 2017 at 11:08:38 AM

Imo, Raven is going to be RWBY's equivalent to Warhammer 40,000's Cypher.

IE: We have no fucking clue whose side she's on for most of the series, but will eventually (possibly) be revealed to be Good All Along.

edited 9th Mar '17 11:11:04 AM by BlackSunNocturne

BlackSunNocturne Since: Aug, 2013
#45711: Mar 9th 2017 at 12:02:12 PM

[up]I mean, I've seen several fanfics do that, so why not? [lol]

WillDeRegio Since: Jan, 2015
#45712: Mar 9th 2017 at 12:42:00 PM

wild mass guessSummer had her eyes removed so Salem can study them and make some sort of weapon out of them.wild mass guess

INB 4 Cinder gets her eye replaced with a weaponized silver one.

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#45713: Mar 9th 2017 at 1:15:50 PM

So what are the odds of Summer being relevant to the plot in the future in any way? Even as a corpse or a recorded message?

It'd be nice to see another good mother of the main cast. Kali is awesome but it'd be nice if she wasn't the only responsible mother of the lot.

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#45714: Mar 9th 2017 at 1:18:16 PM

Equating beind dead with bad or irresponsible doesn't sound right.

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#45715: Mar 9th 2017 at 1:27:48 PM

Indeed Ren's mother and Summer seemed to be pretty good mothers.

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#45717: Mar 9th 2017 at 1:51:44 PM

They're always remembered fondly, anyway...

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Shaoken (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Dating Catwoman
#45718: Mar 9th 2017 at 2:10:26 PM

Ren's mom got to appear in a flashback though. I'd be happy with Summer getting a flashback.

Wyldchyld (Old as dirt)
#45719: Mar 9th 2017 at 2:45:03 PM

Well yes, it's clearly not just semantics in Remnant, but it doesn't seem at all clear to me whether there's any visual distinction between silver eyes and gray eyes, or if you have to be an immortal body surfing wizard to tell them apart prior to getting blasted with eye beams.

Which is why I've been speculating that perhaps it's deliberate that silver and grey eyes don't have much visual difference in Remnant. For all we know, the 'silver' part of 'silver eyes' refers more to the power unleashed than the eye colour being visually different to grey eyes.

We didn't get a clear shot of Ruby using the power, but I wonder if a controlled use actually would turn her eyes the colour of the power's light when she's activating it.... like Yang's eyes turning red when her Semblance activates.

In other words, it's when the power is activated that Ruby's eyes are visually 'silver'.

On another topic, I can't help but notice that there's a mildly Unfortunate trend as far as female authority figures in RWBY go, namely that pretty much all of them (Salem, Raven, Sienna Khan, Cinder prior to volume 4) are villains, in contrast to the "good" authority figures who are male with the exception of Glynda. Hopefully that will balance out over time.

Assuming Sienna is female, that is. When the three silhouettes of the White Fang leadership were shown, the silhouette on the left did look like a cat faunus of some description, but they also looked male.

On the subject of names... the two White Fang leaders we have names for (Adam and Sienna) are both named for soil colours... Adam is a name that refers to red-coloured earth, and sienna is a yellowish-brown earth pigment, too, one that becomes reddish upon heating (burned sienna).

I wonder what kind of name the final leader of the White Fang will have.

edited 9th Mar '17 2:50:18 PM by Wyldchyld

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Soble Since: Dec, 2013
#45720: Mar 9th 2017 at 8:32:04 PM

as far as female authority figures in RWBY go, namely that pretty much all of them (Salem, Raven, Sienna Khan, Cinder prior to volume 4) are villains, in contrast to the "good" authority figures who are male with the exception of Glynda. Hopefully that will balance out over time.

Oh. My. God. [lol]

To play devil's advocate, 90 percent of the authority figures/warriors/people of importance in the world of Remnant/most of our main cast are female. In that event, does it matter? There's no lack of strong female characters in this show (Debate their levels of character depth as you wish)

edited 9th Mar '17 8:38:45 PM by Soble

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CaptainCapsase from Orbiting Sagittarius A* Since: Jan, 2015
#45721: Mar 9th 2017 at 9:20:41 PM

[up] It's not at a point where it's a serious problem, just where it's gotten a bit noticeable.

edited 9th Mar '17 9:22:14 PM by CaptainCapsase

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#45722: Mar 10th 2017 at 8:38:29 AM

In other words, it's when the power is activated that Ruby's eyes are visually 'silver'.
Except that her eyes are silver even when she's not using silver-eye powers?

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WillDeRegio Since: Jan, 2015
#45723: Mar 10th 2017 at 10:48:36 AM

wild mass guessGray-eyed people are the descendants of silver-eyed warriors. But they don't get awesome Grimm killing Eye Beams.wild mass guess

I'm starting to think genetics doesn't exist on Remnant. Red eyes + blue eyes =/= purple eyes. Then again, with the whole color theme Remnant's got going, and the fact two characters have radical eye color changes...

I would also like to point out that red and purple eye colors IRL are usually the result of albinism, and there is such a thing as ocular albinism, which only affects the eyes. Accurate depiction of albinism be damned, but... wild mass guessRaven and Yang are colorblind.wild mass guess

edited 10th Mar '17 11:04:15 AM by WillDeRegio

CaptainCapsase from Orbiting Sagittarius A* Since: Jan, 2015
#45724: Mar 10th 2017 at 1:38:56 PM

[up] Strictly speaking, there are traits that work like that in real life, but eye coloration isn't among them.

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#45725: Mar 10th 2017 at 2:04:59 PM

Fiction as a whole doesn't really do genetics right, nor, does it really try to. After all, most people don't understand the intricacies eye color or hair color, I mean, even experiments don't understand everything about them. The science of genetics is complicated.


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