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Shaoken (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Dating Catwoman
#45651: Mar 4th 2017 at 11:13:37 PM

It would be great to finally see what happened at the top of the tower.

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#45652: Mar 4th 2017 at 11:16:18 PM

Ya know, the fact that the Silver Eyes thing was never mentioned by or to Ruby at any point in Volume 4 really bugs me. After a big, out-of-nowhere thing like the Silver Eyes comes up, you expect them to take some time to explain shit and, in this case, for the hero to learn how to control this power.

It'd be like if Luke Skyward suddenly used the Force to destroy the Death Star at the end of Episode IV (so if Episode IV ended exactly the way it did) and then he and the people around him never so much as mention the Force in Episode V.

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#45653: Mar 5th 2017 at 7:07:06 AM

Actually that is incorrect qrow explained a bit about them being the reason Salem sent someone after Ruby. Considering she probably has no idea how to even begin training in regards to activate it should be no surprise she does not talk about it.

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#45654: Mar 5th 2017 at 10:43:44 AM

Yeah, they implied is the reason salem is after Ruby but not more, I think because Qrow dosent seen to actually more about that

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AJSthe2nd Since: Jan, 2015
#45655: Mar 5th 2017 at 10:49:14 AM

You'd think she'd at least try to learn on how to use it though. Instead of just banking on them somehow activating again when she needs them.

It's not like she's searching for someone to teach them to her since as far as she knows nobody can.

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#45656: Mar 5th 2017 at 10:55:58 AM

It did annoy me a bit that she hasn't been working on them. Still, saying they didn't come up is just wrong, again, they're the entire reason Salem sent Tyrian after Ruby.

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#45657: Mar 5th 2017 at 11:25:24 AM

Well, they dont have nay dea how it work and if need a emocional trigger...yeah dont think ruby will do that.

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Shaoken (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Dating Catwoman
#45658: Mar 5th 2017 at 12:04:20 PM

The only instance of them activating came from watching a friend get murdered right in front of her. So if anyone's to blame for her not using them again it's Ren and Nora for not dying in the last fight.

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#45659: Mar 5th 2017 at 12:24:39 PM

You'd think she'd at least try to learn on how to use it though. Instead of just banking on them somehow activating again when she needs them.
The problem with that is that it would require Ruby to be an actual character with fleshed out motivations and goals — and Rooster Teeth has, for whatever reason, repeatedly demonstrated that this cannot be allowed.

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#45660: Mar 5th 2017 at 3:32:16 PM

Salem cent Tyrain because he wont be affected by the eyes unlike Grimm and Cinder.

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LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#45661: Mar 5th 2017 at 3:36:24 PM

About Ruby's development; wasn't there something about the guys writing the show wanted Jaune to be the main character while Monty wanted Ruby? In which event, probably unintentionally, they might still be writing the show as if that were the case.

edited 5th Mar '17 4:05:03 PM by LSBK

Shaoken (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Dating Catwoman
#45662: Mar 5th 2017 at 3:41:55 PM

That sounds like a made up rumour to be honest. The whole idea sprang from Monty wanting to make a show about four girls, it'd be a dick move for his friends to want to make somebody else the main characters during the planning stages.

Wyldchyld (Old as dirt)
#45663: Mar 5th 2017 at 3:43:35 PM

Ya know, the fact that the Silver Eyes thing was never mentioned by or to Ruby at any point in Volume 4 really bugs me. After a big, out-of-nowhere thing like the Silver Eyes comes up, you expect them to take some time to explain shit and, in this case, for the hero to learn how to control this power.

There isn't exactly any opportunity. She's on the road with fellow kids. We know Qrow's reasons for following them instead of travelling with them, and when they do find out he's following them, they do have a big talk in the evening, which we know covers the subject. By dawn, Qrow is in and out of consciousness so there's no further opportunities for any talk.

But I seriously wouldn't expect Qrow to be able to help Ruby understand her power anyway. It would probably require another silver-eyed warrior, not just anyone.

You'd think she'd at least try to learn on how to use it though. Instead of just banking on them somehow activating again when she needs them.

Well, she probably doesn't know where to start. We don't even know if she particularly wants to explore the subject given that it was triggered by Pyrrha's death (and we've been given some hints that she may be repressing where that subject is concerned).

I'm not saying I would turn my nose up at something occurring during the volume to indicate she was at least wondering about it, but we've been given a couple of hints that there's something going on her head about that, hence her odd dreams; yes, I would have liked a bit more but at least it hasn't been dropped into a black hole.

It occurs to me that Qrow keeping a lot of the Grimm away from RNJR may had reduced Ruby's opportunities for exploring the power anyway. Then again, he probably doesn't want her activating them willy-nilly given that he believes it paints a big target on her back.

About Ruby's development; wasn't there something about the guys writing the show wanted Jaune to be the main character while Monty wanted Ruby? In which event, probably unintentionally, they might still be writing the show if that were the case.

That doesn't sound right to me. After all, think about this: Shane claimed that Monty's original plan was for Jaune to somehow cause Pyrrha's death for it to be a catalyst for his own growth. We know from everyone, including Pyrrha's voice actor, about how early on in the show's conception that Monty came up with Pyrrha's death scene.

Obviously we don't know how right Shane is, but he at least is one person claiming Monty had a significant role for Jaune playing out in his head.

We have heard that originally, Team JNPR wasn't going to be as significant when first conceptualised, but it was quickly realised that JNPR needed to be the second A-team. That's something Monty, Miles and Kerry have all said — and the Volume 1 opening credits make that clear, too, by focussing on both teams.

Based solely on interviews and livestreams I've seen with the creators (including Monty), I don't get the impression there was ever any question that RWBY was the A-team or that JNPR was a very significant second A-team. They've been saying that from the beginning.

edited 5th Mar '17 4:04:53 PM by Wyldchyld

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#45664: Mar 5th 2017 at 4:40:36 PM

The thing is like other people said she would not exactly know where to even start. She has no other silver eyed warriors to train her and her only use was after she watched a friend get disintegrated right before her eyes. She can't even remember what she did since she said everything went white and her head started to hurt.

If she does get any development in that it would probably be from Ozpin / Oscar since he would probably have more of an idea on what silver eyes can do and how to control them.

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Shaoken (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Dating Catwoman
#45665: Mar 5th 2017 at 4:45:30 PM

We need a Chibi episode of Ruby trying to activate her powers by staring at things.

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#45666: Mar 5th 2017 at 5:03:12 PM

Yeah she even barely get the idea of having a power, how she is going to deal with that?

And about Jaune and Ruby...that was us actually, we speculate that the writers feel more confortable with Jaune since is easier to move and interact than Ruby who is pretty much a Monty chararter who is uber badass but rather plain overall.

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#45667: Mar 5th 2017 at 6:21:46 PM

only tangentially rwby related, but michael and the AH crew were talking about voice acting at RT and Funimation on this week's Last Call

tl;dr "I'm nervous [voice acting] at Funimation. Rooster Teeth? I shit all over them cuz I'm like fuck youuuuu Jordan you piece of shit."

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Wyldchyld (Old as dirt)
#45668: Mar 6th 2017 at 3:41:22 PM

I have been wondering if we'll see an experienced silver eyed warrior at some point - to give us an idea of what experienced ones can do, but also the cost of such a lifestyle on them — so a crazy old codger who's bat-shit insane, dangerous as hell, and completely broken on the inside. You know, the kind of person that has people - fans and in-universe, both - initially going 'shit, that awesome' but eventually going 'ah, hell, is that really the fate that awaits Ruby?'.

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#45669: Mar 6th 2017 at 5:46:06 PM

It does raise the question in regards to how Summer was handling things in regards Silver Eyes. She seemed to handling things well based on how she is described, but that could have just as easily been just a fake smile to hide behind especially considering she was only shown in a photo. I do also wonder where her level of experience is exactly.

I would imagine in terms experience my guess is she would be between Ruby and hypothetical sage that is completely broken inside.

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#45670: Mar 6th 2017 at 5:49:38 PM

My impression is that the silver-eyed warriors is a once-a-generation thing (if not even more rare, like once-a-century). It's probably not an unreasonable assumption to say that Summer Rose was one, but other than that I'd be surprised if there's many of them kicking around.

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WillDeRegio Since: Jan, 2015
#45671: Mar 6th 2017 at 10:01:13 PM

Well, if we go by genetics, silver eyes are a variant of blue eyes. So, which ever Kingdom has the largest number percentage of blue-eyed people should be more likely to produce silver-eyed warriors, mystical bullshit aside.

Makes me wonder what happens in the event of heterochromia. If you have only one silver eye, can you use the ability? Or is the power halved?

Also, I hope nobody pulls some of the creepy eye crap that occured in Naruto. Last thing we need is someone with a silver eyes collection.

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#45672: Mar 6th 2017 at 10:09:20 PM

It's clearly supposed to be some super special mystical deal. I honestly find myself bewildered that every time a character with gray eyes appears people start going "maybe they're a Silver-Eyed Warrior!" it's not gonna happen.

Also, it seems pretty obvious they're making a distinction between "gray" and "silver" here.

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#45673: Mar 7th 2017 at 8:37:05 AM

Yeah, silver eyes is definitely mystical plot device crap. What's annoying is that there are a lot of people with eyes that are grey, or pale blue, or otherwise very similar to silver, so there's very little distinctiveness in the character design given how much of a big deal it's supposed to be.

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#45674: Mar 7th 2017 at 8:52:27 AM

In the show itself? Because I haven't actually checked.

Because maybe you know this is a fantasy world where people with silver eyes aren't common Imeanthere'shalf-animalpeoplewalkingaroundwithnightvisionsoummmaybeImeanitstheoreticallypossible.

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#45675: Mar 7th 2017 at 9:16:16 AM

In the show itself, yes. If you look at the character's eyes, there's not a whole hell of a lot of difference between, say, Ruby (silver) and Winter (pale blue) or Ruby (with different lighting) and Mercury (grey).

edited 7th Mar '17 9:18:19 AM by NativeJovian

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