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shinigamiPeter Since: May, 2016 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
#45376: Feb 20th 2017 at 6:05:40 AM

[up][up]Roman's based of Candlewick/Lampwick from Pinocchio.

Which is why some people speculated that he may have something to do with Penny, like being an older prototype of her gone rogue or something (they do have similar hair).

Soble Since: Dec, 2013
#45377: Feb 20th 2017 at 7:54:27 AM

I still find myself missing the old art style.

It wasn't as polished, but it was a lot more stylish. Yang punching the floor and making the floor literally vibrate like a wave made no sense, but damn if it didn't look cool.

Also Yang's request for a strawberry sunrise seems like an intentional visual hint, now that I actually know what a strawberry sunrise looks like. The allusion is painfully obvious.

edited 20th Feb '17 8:03:42 AM by Soble

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LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#45378: Feb 20th 2017 at 7:59:37 AM

What was it supposed to be hinting at?

So, what, think most of Volume 5 is still going to be the gang separated or will that be kept up until the finale or second to last episode or whatever.

Soble Since: Dec, 2013
#45379: Feb 20th 2017 at 8:02:43 AM

Well, I phrased that the wrong way but:

Strawberry sunrises (at least looking at that google search) are red and yellow, just like Ruby and Yang. Or a mixture, a cohesion of red and yellow, symbolizing their bond.

Even without knowing what strawberry sunrises looked like the name should have been obvious to me = strawberries/red/Ruby, and sunrises/gold/Yang. Combined with Ruby appearing at the end of the trailer this emphasizes how these two are connected without either character actually saying anything.

So, what, think most of Volume 5 is still going to be the gang separated or will that be kept up until the finale or second to last episode or whatever.

Ruby and Yang will be apart for all of a quarter of the next season. Weiss and Blake will do their own thing for awhile. I've no idea where Weiss will turn up because I forgot where she said she was going, if she did at all.

edited 20th Feb '17 8:19:27 AM by Soble

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fillerdude Since: Jul, 2010
#45380: Feb 20th 2017 at 8:20:47 AM

She was going to meet Winter, wherever that is.

Soble Since: Dec, 2013
#45381: Feb 20th 2017 at 8:28:42 AM

Ah. Well that'll keep her busy for 3-4 episodes. Depends on Winter's VA's availability.

With travel banned from Kingdom to Kingdom I don't see Weiss rejoining the group anytime soon. Blake has her own plot thread and nemesis to deal with, both of which are pretty divorced from the Maiden plot, the gods, and whatever Cinder's deal is.

One can only hope we answer questions like what happened to Neo, what is Dust, what happened to Ozpin, and what are the Silver Eyes really. But since RRNJ are going to a new academy I imagine we'll be ganked by a new cast of students and hunters, while trying to juggle Weiss's plot, Blake's plot, and Yang's road trip.

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AJSthe2nd Since: Jan, 2015
#45382: Feb 20th 2017 at 8:29:54 AM

Winter is also in Haven. All 3 were going to Haven. Weiss to meet up with Winter, Yang to meet up with Ruby, and Blake to fight the White Fang.

Weiss doesn't know it yet, but she's going after the same thing Ruby is since Winter is also working to keep Haven out of Salem's hands, which means she'll probably meet up with Ruby soon enough.

Blake will probably be the last because she's looking into a totally different thing than the other 3 and has no idea any of them are even there.

Thebrawlbro Since: Aug, 2013
#45383: Feb 20th 2017 at 8:35:04 AM

Yeah, unless White Fang headquarters just so happens to be located in Mistral, Blake will be the last to rejoin the team. Wonder how they'll start handling a main cast of 7 people though. Probably going to have JNR go off to do their own thing.

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#45384: Feb 20th 2017 at 8:40:44 AM

Hazel was apparently going to Haven too to meet Sienna Khan. Even without that, Blake's heading to Haven to stop Adam's "coup".

edited 20th Feb '17 8:44:46 AM by LSBK

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#45385: Feb 20th 2017 at 8:43:21 AM

This has nothing to do with anything, but I do sort of want to see Jacques fight, and actually be good at it. That, or he simply has the most wonderful toys in his disposal.

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Soble Since: Dec, 2013
#45386: Feb 20th 2017 at 8:43:34 AM

Haven

This place is really living up to its name.

[up] Well, Torchwick and Ironwood surprised us.

Which is why I suspect Jacques is actually going to suck at fighting. Can't pull the same trick thrice. Plus, let's face it, this thread withstanding, how many people actually see Jacques as a reasonable, if somewhat despicable father figure? I'm pretty sure slapping Weiss, installing her daddy issues, and taking away her inheritance sticks out more. Making him a Bad Ass on top of that wouldn't sit well with fans.

We've already nailed Adam to a cross for the behind the scenes domestic abuse, but Adam was already a shotgun-sword-wielding samurai before that ever came up, so he has to be decent. Jacques doesn't have that problem. He was already pegged as someone who makes Weiss visibly uncomfortable before he appeared.

Plus Ironwood was the one who took care of the Boarbatusk at the party. If Jacques was a fighter I suspect he would have shot first.

edited 20th Feb '17 8:55:17 AM by Soble

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doineedaname from Eastern US Since: Nov, 2010
#45387: Feb 20th 2017 at 9:34:56 AM

[up] I've seen a fair amount of people on another forum who love him as a villain because of they view him as a scumbag who is often right for the wrong reasons.

I have seen people hoping he has some kind of freezing Semblance he used to make the statues around the house from Grimm he can release as a defense and hoping that Whitley is very skilled with the Schnee Semblance but that he just has no interest in using it or fighting.

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#45388: Feb 20th 2017 at 9:45:26 AM

All of WBY's plot threads are set up in ways that will lead to them inevitably intersecting with the main plot, and eventually reuniting with R. Even if Yang were to go to Raven over Ruby, Raven is involved in fighting the main threat as well. Which is why I think it would be better to just have her go to Ruby; she'll meet Raven by virtue of them dealing with the same threat to all of humanity.

As for the Schnee men, I don't know about Jacques, but I wouldn't rule out Whitley actually being very proficient with the Schnee Semblance, and simply hiding it, at least from Weiss. The show hasn't really talked about Semblances as if they are things you either have or don't have, more along the lines of things people either or awaken or don't.

I could see it being that Whitley only learned how to while Weiss was away. Either that or him not having it defies logic and was done to make him even pettier. Considering the writing so far that's definitely possible.

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#45389: Feb 20th 2017 at 10:00:58 AM

I do understand why people wouldn't want Jacques to be a fighter, and I don't think either he needs to be a great fighter. But at least I would like if he had his own trump cards if he is threatened (like Attack Drones or such). Even if it's to give Weiss some spotlight by making her face her own father.

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AJSthe2nd Since: Jan, 2015
#45390: Feb 20th 2017 at 10:17:36 AM

He might have some miliary training but I feel like it was be against everything he seems to stand for to have actual hunter level aura abilities, when by all rights he seems to think that not only is fighting beneath people of his stature but that relying on super powered single warriors is inferior to a large army of disposable soldiers.

It would just be an excuse for Weiss and her father to throw down, which I think would be both unnecessery and a poor showing for Weiss as her putting up with years of abuse and slaps from a person she could rightfully kick the crap out of effortlessly if she wanted would show her using her abilities with restrain and respect for the weak, which is what hunters are supposed to stand for and what seperates the good guys from the people like Cinder or Tyrian who used their power as a blunt instrument to get what they want at the expense of others.

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#45391: Feb 20th 2017 at 11:24:44 AM

You know, I think RWBY might have become less anime-esque in its story telling and presentation and I think that might have hurt the show.

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#45392: Feb 20th 2017 at 11:30:52 AM

I just think the tragic loss of Monty hurt the show in general. there's a lot of spirit and amazing talent that was lost (especially in regards to the truly phenomenal and amazing fight scenes) with him.

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Soble Since: Dec, 2013
#45393: Feb 20th 2017 at 11:31:37 AM

RWBY might have become anime-esque in its story telling and presentation and I think that might have hurt the show.

Well there's a sentence I never thought I'd read. [lol] I'd say it's become more anime-esque. We're just missing a beach episode and panty shots... heck, scratch off the latter actually.

I mean the style has definitely changed (I think Monty had video games on the brain and that really showed) but the opening reminds me a whole lot of Fullmetal Alchemist for some reason, and I don't just mean Tyrian. Then we've got effortlessly cool lone wolf badass Qrow Branwen, Tyrian the giggling maniac, and then the exchanges between Blake and Sun.

ut at least I would like if he had his own trump cards if he is threatened (like Attack Drones or such).

Well there are those giant robots Adam and Blake were fighting in one of the trailers. With advances in Atlas technology I imagine Jacques has some top of the line security droids stored away somewhere.

All of WBY's plot threads are set up in ways that will lead to them inevitably intersecting with the main plot

My concern was more when it was going to happen. How much time needs to be spent on Ruby, already in Haven, figuring out Hazel's plot. Hazel doesn't seem like the type to draw out a kidnapping. Heck, Tyrian wasn't either, he pretty much ran in and started busting heads.

edited 20th Feb '17 11:41:19 AM by Soble

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LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#45394: Feb 20th 2017 at 11:42:01 AM

Maybe I just have a terrible eye, or maybe my standards are weird, but I don't really get what was supposed to be so amazing about Monty Oum's fighting scenes (well, with rare exceptions) and for the most part, I don't think they've suffered that much. There are certain things I dislike that crop up now, but I don't really think that has to do so much with the fighting, and more with the animators not getting how gravity works.

[up]I think some sort of meet up happening is going to happen in the first couple of episodes, but Team RWBY truly being together again is probably going to happen in the finale or the last scene of ep 11. Which isn't to say I don't think they want all know they're all there. But there's probably going to be some fall out or other circumstances will stop all four of them being together for long.

edited 20th Feb '17 11:45:22 AM by LSBK

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#45395: Feb 20th 2017 at 11:43:58 AM

I find it telling that when I think about, say, translating some of the high speed fights from One-Punch Man into 3d, especially vs Genos and vs Boros, I think Monty would have been the only one up to the task.

Soble Since: Dec, 2013
#45396: Feb 20th 2017 at 12:10:06 PM

[up](2) Excellent fight choreography. You gain an appreciation for that kind of stuff and you start to see it more and more in other works, little things they do that make it so stylish and it just stands out. Heck, Devil May Cry is a good go-to. The stunts Dante pulls off are excessive and ludicrous, but it's refined to an art form.

But to be less conceited, I never really saw what everybody else did in films like Grindhouse or Kill Bill. They're okay movies but Tarantino's style doesn't really wow me. So, different strokes.

It's like New York pizza. Some people think it's the best pizza ever. Some don't.

There are parts of RWBY's fight choreography I say are actually better than how Monty used to do them so I don't think the show has really suffered that much. But whereas you had a protracted fight between Yang and Neo that was stupidly fun and complicated, you don't really get that post-Volume 3. Trade-off is you get to see more team attacks and fewer fights obstructing the narrative (looking at Team CFVY) in Volume 4.

Also the camera swings more, like when Ren was fighting Tyrian.

edited 20th Feb '17 8:07:44 PM by Soble

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#45397: Feb 20th 2017 at 12:48:54 PM

Yeah, the fight choreography has dropped off considerably since Monty's passing with only one or two noteworthy exceptions (Qrow VS Tyian being one of them). I don't expect everyone to be able to see the difference but, as someone who watches a lot of anime and pays close attention to fight scenes in all mediums, the difference is there.

The biggest tell is the final fight of Volume 4. That should have been an amazing spectacle on par with or surpassing RWBY vs the Paladin from Vol 2 (which I'm not saying is the best fight but it should have invoked a similar feeling). Instead, what we got is probably one of the most boring fights in the series.

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#45398: Feb 20th 2017 at 12:51:02 PM

ngl I liked the volume four finale. While it certainly good have been better, it gave me vibes of fighting monsters with my friends in Monster Hunter 3U, which is awesome.

On the other hand, it could have been fighting monster with my friends in Monster Hunter 4U/Generations, which would be way more awesome.

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LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#45399: Feb 20th 2017 at 12:54:05 PM

My opinion of that fight has lessened after realizing just how stationary the Nuckelavee actually was, but I still wouldn't say it was bad.

But, really, what it comes down to is whether it looks good to your own eye or not.

edited 20th Feb '17 1:17:59 PM by LSBK

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#45400: Feb 20th 2017 at 1:13:54 PM

Funny thing is, I actually like the nuck fight better than others, while Monty is good at all, I never feel the tention or threating feeling is a match between equal but a showing off, with the other chararter acting as prop, the exception been banesaw in one of the most hilarious and WTF moments ever.

Here at least I feel they are doing an effort to actually make the grimm intersting, between this and the sea dragon my respect for the grimm(and blake) come up this season.

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