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"Never let the truth get in the way of a good story." TwitterThe defining trait of a harem protagonist is indecision. In order for a harem to form around them, they must refrain from choosing any given member of the harem as their sole romantic partner. Sometimes this is because they're not interested in any of them and so are trying to avoid all of them equally, sometimes it's because they like all of them and thus can't choose between them because they don't want to hurt any of them, and sometimes it's because they're just too milquetoast to actually tell any of them 'no'.
Jaune is definitely not indecisive. He sets goals for himself — ambitious ones — and he pursues them. He had no combat training, but he got himself into Beacon. Weiss was completely out of his league, but that didn't stop him from asking her out. When that didn't pan out, instead he ends up with the girl who's arguably the School Idol. Now he's deeply involved in the whole save-the-world plot, and he's no longer The Load but a contributing member of the team.
Honestly, I find the original quoted post kind of incoherent. It comes off as "I dislike Jaune due to personal preference, but I'm trying to justify that dislike by declaring him an objectively bad character". Yeah, he hits some Unlucky Everydude tropes. Yeah, he's a bit of an Audience Surrogate, especially early on when he's not up to speed on how RWBY-verse combat works and people can explain things to him. Yeah, he ends up with The Ace anyway. All of that is a perfectly legitimate reason to dislike him, but that's just because you dislike those tropes, it doesn't make him a bad character.
Really from Jupiter, but not an alien.I never disliked Juane, but I didn't like him either at the start. The only time he got interesting was when I learned he cheated his way into Beacon Academy. Now, he had a plot hook that I found interesting in itself AND a piece of his character that became interesting due to the context of the twist. Unfortunately Season 3 never followed up on it, and there's little reason for it to come up now.
I certainly don't equate it to being 'automatically lethal'. However, there's only so much successive bad luck a person can put up with before they want their lives to change. And if the change means distancing themselves from the person causing the bad luck, that's a problem for Qrow.
However, we've seen enough to know there's definitely a lethal potential to Qrow's Semblance.
I don't. I don't see why she's automatically entitled to know either Qrow or Tai's Semblances solely on the grounds that she's family to them. I don't even see why she's automatically entitled to know on the grounds of Qrow being her mentor.
It's clear that some people like to avoid advertising their Semblances and prefer to control who knows what about them. Pyrrha was one such person and she didn't have a Semblance that causes the kind of social stigma Qrow's clearly used to receiving from his Semblance.
Given the nature of Qrow's Semblance, I'd find it odd if he was open to discussing it. It's not like he freely mentioned his Semblance to Team RNJR. It was one of those weird 'truth comes out' chats that people sometimes have, and those are rarely comfortable chats, just like this one.
I can think of several examples that might be his Semblance at work:
- He leaves the bar, bar tender drops the glass he's cleaning.
- He fights Winter, who gets caught red-handed by Ironwood.
- The nieces can't beat him at video games.
- Him hanging around Beacon gets it destroyed (sorry, couldn't resist).
Yeah, he calls her 'crazy' in that 'I love you' way families do. It's a bait to get more information out of her. It's pretty common for friends and family to do that to each other when they need to get someone to open up.
You're talking about the White Fang's collective, public goal. That's not what we're discussing. We're talking about Adam specifically - a single individual, someone we haven't learned enough about to fully understand what makes them tick.
You're talking about a different scene to the quote of mine you're responding to. I was talking about the Volume 2 finale scene, you're talking about the Volume 3 scene that came much later on down the road. My comment was merely about the speculation at the time the Volume 2 finale aired, where people were speculating that Cinder was the Queen and therefore it was her plan. A piece of speculation I never agreed with because I thought the Female Narrator was the Queen and therefore I thought the plan was the Female Narrator's, not Cinder's.
In other words, that scene didn't have to be interpreted as partners in charge or as one being subordinate to the other (the two most common theories I saw at the time that episode aired), it could also be interpreted as them both being subordinate to a hidden villain who was the one in charge.
What you're talking about is a Volume 3 scene that happened later on, and therefore isn't related to the sentence you decided to quote and respond to.
However, on the subject of the scene you want to discuss, I will simply point out, again, that every time I mention that we don't know Adam's motives and decisions from that scene, we can only guess, you respond with an objection.... by listing a range of possible motives he might have (as you've just done now). That again supports my point - that Adam's motive isn't known and requires us to speculate on what motive it might be. That's exactly what you're doing. I'm therefore not sure what about my point you're arguing with.
I didn't forget he said that. I watched the scene again before I made my post, so it was fresh in my mind. I stand by what I said in my post.
edited 20th Jan '17 6:02:14 PM by Wyldchyld
If my post doesn't mention a giant flying sperm whale with oversized teeth and lionfish fins for flippers, it just isn't worth reading.Jaune hit a fair number of the harem protagonist tropes early, but stands out in the sense that he's self aware and dedicated enough to try to develop past being The Load.
edited 20th Jan '17 5:58:40 PM by CaptainCapsase
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Maybe she's not entitled but she's never asked? Because if she did I don't think he'd lie about it, at most he tried to brush it off only making her more curious/suspicious.
You are not going to convince me that "what's your superpower" is something that would have never come up before between them. And telling someone he's close to is not the same thing as broadcasting it.
edited 20th Jan '17 6:05:06 PM by LSBK
" at most he tried to brush it off only making her more curious/suspicious."
Really? Ruby is not the kind of person who is set as curious, if something she is very naive or have set things about people, if he brush out the answer to her, she may just said "meh" and that it
"he calls her 'crazy' in that 'I love you' way families do. It's a bait to get more information out of her. "
I have to see the scene again but he said that ether she is lying or that she is crazy, yang swear everything she said was truth in which he said "Yeah, you are crazy" them move to leave until they touch the theme of Raven, clearly Qrow didnt really belive her that much, dosent sound much like uncle would said.
"You're talking about the White Fang's collective, public goal. That's not what we're discussing"
Adam goals is white fang goals since he is the leader and he said as much, he dosent belive equility can exist and therefore human should face "Justice" for what they did to faunus, we dont know what tick this way(maybe he saw to much suffering, maybe he grow bitter, maybe he was always like that) but is goal is clearly know and why.
"it could also be interpreted as them both being subordinate to a hidden villain who was the one in charge."
Sure but them volume 3 come and change things which is why I talk about a disconection here: in one Adam is going with Cinder plan(or at least the plan she is carrying out) while later we know he was force into the whole thing which create a question: if he still bullied into it? did fuly comit in? did he see Cinder as necesary evil? we dont really know because it move from "Adam is force into the deal" to "he is throwing faunus to full cinder plan" and something is missing there, sense my coment that they are jumping with Adam.
"When did being a spaz meant you were a harem anime/manga protagonist? "
no harem, but Jaune remind me of the "otaku bait" kind of protagonist skinny, losers who are nice to people and take a while to be a badass, kinda like Yuki from mirai mikki or shinji, the fact is love interest was the ace only drive that further.
"My Name is Bolt, Bolt Crank and I dont care if you believe or not"I'm pretty sure the dislike of Jaune comes from the fact that he started as the Unlucky Everydude. I'm definitely sure that that's also where the like for him comes from. (That's certainly why I like him.)
The dislike is basically "we've got a cast full of characters that are cool and stylish and awesome — why are we wasting time with this pathetic loser?" while the like is "hey, this guy isn't as effortlessly cool/stylish/awesome as everyone else, he actually has to put effort into it — that's actually pretty interesting!".
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Pretty much, again is the shinji syndrome: when you call cool chararter, people feel annoyed by the weakes member of the group when you give him protagonism, in fact most hate come from volume 1 and 2, he got better in part because they make him suporting chararter
but is very on the point, Jaune is one of the few chararter with consistent grow over the series and it also one with few badass moments, which help the perception of him.
edited 20th Jan '17 7:14:00 PM by unknowing
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Well, RWBY is not a nuance show or story so is easy to see were things are going, and by using a lot of anime tropes he fall into a lot of anime fandom and the "no badass protagonist" is one of them.
edited 20th Jan '17 7:32:16 PM by unknowing
"My Name is Bolt, Bolt Crank and I dont care if you believe or not"

this is the volume in which everyone gets parents
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