I'd say probably not since the Japanese dub of RWBY has gotten quite a few people from well known series. Like Ryuuko Matoi is Yang with Mako being Nora, Annie and Shinobu Kawajiri is Blake, Dawn is Pyrrha (with Sailor Venus later taking over), Zamasu is Torchwick, Erio Mondial is Emerald, the guy who does the Japanese dub voice over of MCU Captain America and Mumen Rider is Adam (saw a clip of him in the Japanese dub and it was hilarious) Pain is Taiyang while Ironwood is Hidan, Saber is Winter, Kakashi (and Kars is Ozpin...and there's a few more.
Japanese Qrow is also Sanji not Zorro.
edited 18th Jan '17 7:59:01 PM by doineedaname
Really? Whoa!
My sister says that Qrow is Ruby's father. I hate that theory like I hate the one about Tyrion being Aerys the Mad King's bastard. It removes an important part of their character.
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Well, I know it was someone from One Piece, but I don't watch the Japanese version very often and they sort of blend together from me.
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I hate the "Qrow is Ruby's father" theory precisely because it wouldn't really add anything to either character and would just be pointless family drama and overly complicate a situation that's already pretty unusual.
It's just like all the "Sokka is the father of one of Toph's daughters" thing. It's completely ignoring what that would say and mean for the characters in favor of "this would be cool."
edited 19th Jan '17 6:46:47 AM by LSBK
Divorces and stepchildren exist. I think it's Toph's seemingly unconventional views on family and life and her crush on Sokka, added to the lack of information about her husband, Suyin and Lin's father, in addition to the lack of information about Sokka and Suki that fueled that theory (like, the one protagonist with any implied sexuality is the only one who never started a family - that's kind of ironic). That doesn't make it the most likely theory but not impossible. "Filling in the blanks" as it were.
As for Qrow and Ruby, that's almost entirely because they have a closer visual similarity than Ruby and Taiyang, and they interact more. All it requires is the two Branwen siblings never pursuing romance again:
- Taiyang met Raven and fell in love, fathered Yang, Raven left.
- Qrow met Rose and fell in love. They had Ruby but divorced afterward.
- Taiyang met Rose and fell in love, and became Ruby's parent.
- Rose died, leaving Taiyang with Ruby and Yang.
- Qrow drank.
- Raven gave absolutely zero f'cks.
It's twisted and convoluted, but not impossible. Actually it's entirely possible given Qrow's Semblance is giving others terrible luck.
edited 19th Jan '17 7:22:08 AM by Soble
I'M MR. MEESEEKS, LOOK AT ME!
The show didn't fill in the blanks because it made a point out of not mattering (except for like one seen).
And, no, when both of them say they don't know who their fathers are, there is never any mention of Toph and Sokka ever being like that, and you still had people saying "Maybe Toph is lying about Lin's father being named Tanto", it's not about "filling in the blanks" it's about making your ship canon despite everything the show is telling you.
Not to mention even if it was true, it either implies that Sokka was a deadbet or that Toph was a major bitch for keeping him away from one of his kids.
And as for Ruby's situation, it doesn't matter if any of the above could technically happen because the show has never implied any of that.
edited 19th Jan '17 7:21:44 AM by LSBK
The real question of Crow being Ruby's father is why bother to pretend he's not, if that's the case? She lives with her stepdad Taiyang and her stepsister Yang because her dad is a Huntsman off doing Huntsman things. If Crow was Ruby's dad, there doesn't seem to be any reason to keep that secret.
Really from Jupiter, but not an alien.I also don't get why people assume that Taiyang married either of them, that's never been stated and seem incredibly unlikely, at least with Raven.
But there are just too many holes. Going "they interact more" implies that in Ruby's 15 years of life she's actually spent more time with Qrow than Taiyang, which has never been implied. Though I understand wanting to simplify the characters lives to when we meet them, it's better not to.
But even with that, Qrow has been a significant presence in Ruby's (and Yang's) life so the excuse "keeping her safe and away from him" doesn't work either.
Also, it's not that Ruby looks more like Qrow than Tai, it's that Ruby seems to look exactly like her mother. The only way she looks more like Qrow is in that they both have dark hair, and it's not even the same color.
edited 19th Jan '17 7:27:41 AM by LSBK
Maybe it was a mistake? maybe is semblence that give bad luck, after all he is not really father material and no just for is semblence byt for is usually dick behivor, hell he is only nice with Ruby(compare that to Yang who he was very harsh).
"Not to mention even if it was true, it either implies that Sokka was a deadbet or that Toph was a major bitch for keeping him away from one of his kids. "
Toph is already ausent in her way to do thing so its not surprising at all, is one of those thing that are posible but no probable, so I can see why people would tought of that.
"My Name is Bolt, Bolt Crank and I dont care if you believe or not"Crow's semblance gives him a legitimate reason not to be a custodial parent, but doesn't explain why they would lie about him being Ruby's father.
Also, can we move the Avatar discussion to the appropriate place? This thread has enough fandom arguments without getting another highly divisive fandom involved.
edited 19th Jan '17 7:31:39 AM by NativeJovian
Really from Jupiter, but not an alien.Well I figured assuming it was wedlock would be crass.
Conservation of Detail is important. You emphasize the relationship between two characters through their interaction. We know Ruby cares/has a decent enough relationship with her dad because she gets excited to get mail from home. We know Weiss has an unhappy relationship with hers because she makes an effort not to contact him, and looks nervous when he comes up. We simplified her life based on what we saw in Volume 2 without ever meeting Jacques until Volume 4, and suspicions of her emotionally abusive parent were both common and turned out to be true - we do this all the time.
In Ruby's case we know she likes her dad, but she's on-screen more with Qrow. She gets excited when Qrow is there. We see her get excited. When she speaks with Taiyang it's a low-voiced, minimal conversation - Taiyang is obviously worried nor is Ruby threatened, but then Qrow comes in and does most of the explaining, and he's the one Ruby emotionally confides in. We don't get a single scene of Ruby maybe hugging him or having some choice words with him, it's all about how Yang's doing and how the school is doing, a kiss on the forehead and a promise of tea. And then there's the less than subtle hostility in Taiyang's voice when Qrow asks to speak with Ruby.
It's not hard fact but it's striking that someone opens up more to their uncle than their own father (until someone here inevitably relates a story of being closer to their aunt/uncle than their biological parents to utterly prove this wrong and say that this is normal). That might not be the case - but to me it's like the show is priming the viewer to think that. It's setting up this family dynamic in a very misleading way. I don't think you can find another character with a similar family setup (a visible relative and mentor/a visible, caring parent) who borrows more from their mentor than their parent.
The Semblance that causes nothing but bad fortune sounds like a decent reason to keep out of a person's life. We've only known him to be involved in Ruby's training and saving her life, and he kept his distance in the latter situation as well.
It is, and come on, she totally does.
Exhibit A
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- Predominantly black clothing with a red accessory/cape
- Scythe weapon/carried on the back
- Pale skin
- Fanciful/awkward style of dress at least by our standards (a little girl in a corset/an older man in an unbuttoned dress shirt)
- Boots
- Lack of armor
Visual similarities typically indicate some kind of bond, especially in anime. Yang absolutely resembles Taiyang. Weiss resembles Jacques (even if he dyed his hair, or just got older). Blake and her mom and her dad. Ruby breaks this trend. She looks almost nothing like Taiyang (more like her mom yes, and we only have a single image of her where she's mostly obscured, and also wearing white... like Qrow). The visual similarities mostly tie them to Qrow, not Taiyang.
Then there's
- fighting style (Ruby sucks H 2 H, Taiyang is great at it, Qrow can do it but keeps a weapon anyway)
- special ability that focuses on locomotion
- aloof personality
- comic relief role
- their auras are both red, and aura has been fanon'd/headcanon'd/confirmed canon as "intrinsic to a person's very being - albeit, we haven't seen what color Taiyang's is, and maybe Summer's was just red.
I mean I'm playing devil's advocate here and looking at this a bit more closely than I want to. It's pretty clear he isn't Ruby's dad, but I say the evidence definitely piled up, and the lack of actual information we had earlier egged it on. Hence, it didn't really agitate me when I heard people push the idea.
edited 19th Jan '17 8:38:31 AM by Soble
I'M MR. MEESEEKS, LOOK AT ME!I'd think that Qrow's clothing is predominantly grey, not black. And everyone dresses weird by our standards. Not just them.
I really don't think they look alike at all. And you could chalk up her confiding in Qrow emotionally to be a carryover of when Taiyang was still depressed and miserable after Summer. And also that Qrow trained her into the fighter she is today.
Actually yeah, goofed there. His outfit is more white/gray than black, but the black being there at all - his collar and his pants - still connects him more with Ruby, whereas Taiyang doesn't have any and is much closer to Yang aesthetically.
Yes, this comparison completely falls apart if Taiyang decides to wear a black shirt or pants someday. I never said it was airtight.
edited 19th Jan '17 8:24:29 AM by Soble
I'M MR. MEESEEKS, LOOK AT ME!Qrow has shown to problem just casually being around people, so his Semblance doesn't work to explain him not raising her if he was her father. He was keeping his distance from JNPR here because he didn't want to risk inadvertently making dangerous situations worse but you can't apply that say logic to a home life. We know for a fact that Qrow was a significant presence when she was growing up so that already josses that justification.
And, no, going "We've seen Qrow more with Ruby" is not supportive of this. Qrow is an integral part of the big plot, while Taiyang isn't for whatever reason. Of course we're going to see him more.
Like I said before, this all sounds good until you actually actually look at all the cracks and how the show has actually presented things in which case it all falls a part. The story has already justified those "connections" by with what ![]()
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Yes, if they wanted they could have made more out of them, but they didn't. It should be very clear where things stand.
edited 19th Jan '17 8:39:49 AM by LSBK
" We know for a fact that Qrow was a significant presence when she was growing up so that already josses that justification."
No really, Qrow is so far the cool uncle that sjust show up, it have the minimal presence he could do to ruby betwen moving on and is mission.
Hell, he was a profesor in signal, dosent it?...how with that bad luck generator?
"My Name is Bolt, Bolt Crank and I dont care if you believe or not"
Summer also went on missions but she was still a constant presence when she was alive. So was Taiyang. Saying "Qrow went on missions so he probably wasn't around a lot" doesn't (necessarily) follow.
But even without that, I still don't buy his Semblance as a rational for him to stay away from her if he was her father.
edited 19th Jan '17 10:15:16 AM by LSBK
Summer die when the two were little so constant is no a good answer, between mision with Ozpin,is bad luck and the fact he is not role model(I mean, this is the same person who pick a fight with Winter only for troll her), Qrow is more the cool uncle who come to give gift, no someone who stay more than two days, that is no constant.
Um, yes, Summer was a constant (or perhaps I should say consistent) presence in their lives when she was alive. I specifically noted alive so I don't know why you're talking about after she died.
Qrow seems to be the same, or at least that's the implication I got.
edited 19th Jan '17 10:28:20 AM by LSBK

I've recently learned that in the Japanese Dub Qrow is voiced by the same guy as Zoro. That seems so weird. I wonder if that's a big deal in Japan like getting professional V As was a fairly big deal for the original.