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Shaoken (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Dating Catwoman
#43701: Jan 3rd 2017 at 12:53:16 AM

So one thing I think I might have misheard or misremembered, when Papa Schnee was stripping Weiss of her position as heiress was he saying/implying that to the public that it was Weiss herself who revoked her claim? The transcript for the episode put's the line as:

Jacques: Clearly, the trauma you endured at the fall of Beacon was too much for you. Which is why you’ve generally revoked your claim to the company and its earnings and passed it on to your brother Whitley.

The way he's phrased it is interesting, which means either Jacques is trying to keep the family name out of further gossip by having what happened framed as Weiss voluntarily giving up her claim rather than a scandal of him stripping her of it, or that the SDC is legally handed down to the oldest sibling, which makes his actions even worse since he'd be literally robbing her of her birthright.

powerpuffbats The crabby fussbudget Since: Mar, 2014 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
The crabby fussbudget
#43702: Jan 3rd 2017 at 12:55:16 AM

I'd rather Weiss ditch her family than her regain control at this point.

Yeah, I really don't like Jacques or Whitley.

AAAAUUUUGGGHHHH!!!!
Kiefen MINE! from Germany Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: It's not my fault I'm not popular!
MINE!
#43703: Jan 3rd 2017 at 2:08:17 AM

Had I been in Weiss' position I would have just burned the mansion to the ground. Jacques made the big mistake of taking away all bargaining points he has against her, this is not how you emotionally manipulate people !

edited 3rd Jan '17 3:56:05 AM by Kiefen

CaptainCapsase from Orbiting Sagittarius A* Since: Jan, 2015
#43704: Jan 3rd 2017 at 3:43:10 AM

So an idea that sounds quite plausible (though quite speculative) just occurred to me.

We spent a lot of time discussing which of the Gods supported/are Salem and Ozpin, "is the light God an example of Light Is Not Good and does that make his counterpart Dark Is Not Evil?"

But what if both creators are on Salem's side, and the world of Remnant is, by the will of the "all powerful" masters of the world, periodically destroyed and recreated so that each of the deities can fulfill their primary purpose (to destroy and to create) again and again until the end of time?

Both Ozpin and Salem are agents of these celestial tyrants, but Ozpin has gone rogue and is playing a stalling game, which from her perspective accomplishes nothing other than prolonging the world's suffering before the inevitable conclusion of the cycle, which is an accusation that Ozpin probably has no good answer for, hence the secrecy.

This theory makes the weird disconnect in "Divide" (shaming Ozpin and blaming him for everyone's suffering while seemingly working towards either the end of the world or a very violent reshaping of it) make a lot of sense.

edited 3rd Jan '17 7:00:43 AM by CaptainCapsase

doineedaname from Eastern US Since: Nov, 2010
#43705: Jan 3rd 2017 at 4:20:28 AM

[up][up][up][up] If it's oldest child it's not Weiss's birthright but Winter's and her only claim to it is her not wanting it or Jacques stripping her of it already.

edited 3rd Jan '17 4:21:41 AM by doineedaname

FergardStratoavis A Fluff Ringer from Bellveins (Troper Knight) Relationship Status: A gay little love melody
A Fluff Ringer
#43706: Jan 3rd 2017 at 6:04:07 AM

Winter has rescinded any claim to the ownership of SDC the moment she joined Atlas military, really.

Really, I find it curious that the same fate did not befall Weiss initially, given that she went way further than Winter ever did. Perhaps Jacques thought this is just a phase or that Weiss will mature rather than go rogue on him (more or less).

@Cycle of Rebirth: It reminds me of Dark Souls, a little bit. Obviously Qrow's story is not the full picture, but we really need to hear Salem's version (or someone else's who's in the know) first.

Karxrida from Eureka, the Forbidden Land Since: May, 2012 Relationship Status: I LOVE THIS DOCTOR!
#43707: Jan 3rd 2017 at 6:08:07 AM

I thought it was implied that Winter gave up her claim to the company willingy. She doesn't seem to care about it like Weiss does.

ch00beh ??? from Who Knows Where Since: Jul, 2010
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#43708: Jan 3rd 2017 at 6:15:52 AM

my new headcanon on qrow’s semblance

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Kiefen MINE! from Germany Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: It's not my fault I'm not popular!
MINE!
#43709: Jan 3rd 2017 at 6:19:29 AM

[up][lol]

Though it makes me wonder if his shape shifting is just kinda part of his semblance or something else.

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#43710: Jan 3rd 2017 at 9:01:26 AM

[up]If it is, what point would there be to being all cryptic with it? I've never understood people being so adamant about that point. So Qrow and Raven have a power we don't understand, it doesn't mean it isn't going to be explained later on, and until then I don't get trying to force it into being something that never really made sense in the first place.

edited 3rd Jan '17 9:01:49 AM by LSBK

EviIPaladin Some Guy Or Something from Middle-Of-Nowhere, NS Since: May, 2010 Relationship Status: Noddin' my head like yeah
Some Guy Or Something
#43711: Jan 3rd 2017 at 9:37:11 AM

I can't speak for other people but if there is another five frickin' not-magic magic abilities people have that are revealed every five episodes, I'm gonna lose it.

Semblance, Maiden Powers, and Silver Eyes are all around already and there's also Aura (related to Semblances) and Dust. Miles & Kerry (and Monty, rest his soul) seem to be writers of excess, putting new shiny things in before properly fleshing out the stuff they have in the show already.

"Evii is right though" -Saturn "I didn't know you were a bitch Evii." -Lior Val
CaptainCapsase from Orbiting Sagittarius A* Since: Jan, 2015
#43712: Jan 3rd 2017 at 9:43:50 AM

[up] I can only hope things eventually start to tie together at some point.

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#43713: Jan 3rd 2017 at 9:44:27 AM

I mean, three of those were present from the beginning and are pretty easy to understand; aura and Semblance are tied together.

The other two are major plot points and introduced pretty close together much later. I'm not really seeing a lot of excess (yet). I don't understand what's wrong with their still being things in this world we don't understand. The story isn't even close to over yet.

But I am wondering how they even figured out that Qrow's Semblance is "I bring bad luck to everyone around me".

edited 3rd Jan '17 9:45:31 AM by LSBK

Wyldchyld (Old as dirt)
#43714: Jan 3rd 2017 at 10:31:06 AM

Oh, sure. I agree with that (and the rest of what you say about it), the only thing is that Weiss never admitted fault. She nearly murdered an innocent (if dickish) person — only Ironwood's timely intervention salvaged the situation (and then Ironwood proceeded to side with Weiss...). Regardless of how much pain she's in and how accidental the incident was, nearly murdering someone is kind of a big deal and deserves to be treated as such, but instead both Weiss and the narrative brush it off as no big deal and pretty much pretend it never happened once the immediate danger is passed.

Yes, it is a big deal. My point is that the fact this isn't a big deal in that family shows there's something terribly wrong with the environment she's being raised into. Neither of them are focussed on the fact she almost killed someone in public and finding a positive solution to ensuring that never happens again. They're focussed on who is doing the worst damage to the Schnee family name and whose responsibility it to protect it.

It's a bad family environment.

What I'm hoping is that she realises she's got to walk away from it. Walk away with the clothes on her back and her sword, and nothing else. Rebuild her life from scratch. If she wants to get the family name back to the way it was in the days of Nicholas Schnee just by becoming a huntress, she's missing the point of why he succeeded. He worked from the ground up. He didn't have very much, but he made what he did have stretch as far as he could take it. He worked from the ground up which made him understand what it's like the be there. He knew what he was trying to save because he had been one of the people who needed saving - he saved himself first and everyone else afterwards.

Until she walks away and rebuilds herself from scratch with nothing to lean on except good, solid friendships to give her strength, she's not going to understand what Nicholas did and why he did it. If she doesn't understand, she won't be able to do anything about it.

What I don't want to play down, however, is that walking away from abuse is one of the hardest things a person can ever do. The writers clearly know that because they've had Ghira lampshade it, at least a little bit, during his talk with Blake and the moment I want to see for Weiss is the moment Blake had in the Black Trailer. Weiss is still building up to the Black Trailer. She hasn't had that moment yet.

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LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#43715: Jan 3rd 2017 at 5:04:34 PM

I wonder how Dust factors into this creation myth and what's going on. Because it has to be important. Come to think of it, we never found out why Cinder wanted all that Dust did we?

Cross (Don’t ask)
#43716: Jan 3rd 2017 at 5:09:25 PM

At this point that was just to reduce the supply for the inevitable Grimm invasion.

Darthwyn leader of Inherit from The void Since: Feb, 2016 Relationship Status: You cannot grasp the true form
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#43717: Jan 3rd 2017 at 5:30:26 PM

I imagine that or to hide their true actions behind a series of robberies that also weaken a kingdom and drive dust prices through the roof. Torchwick had mentioned the effects of his actions of I remember correctly.

"Shall I use you, or make you mine... I'm not so sure what I'll do." - Dorthy
BlackSunNocturne Since: Aug, 2013
#43718: Jan 3rd 2017 at 5:53:56 PM

The dust was for the bombs that were in the train.

Thebrawlbro Since: Aug, 2013
Wyldchyld (Old as dirt)
#43720: Jan 3rd 2017 at 7:31:17 PM

My guess for all the Dust thefts (aside from the bombs in Mountain Glenn, helping to depower Huntsmen and causing economic instability thanks to technology being so dependent on it) is to contribute to the narrative that Atlas is a villain. General Ironwood's decision to stop Dust shipments show just how dependent on Atlas the world is for Dust. While it's a sign of a compassionate man who is worried about protecting people, it plays right into Salem's hands — cause a Dust shortage, trigger Atlas into cutting off supplies which makes the shortage even worse, and suddenly Atlas is the bad guy that's destabilising the other kingdoms via an economic war.

For all his faults and selfish motives, Jacques understands the consequences of Ironwood's decision far better than Ironwood does.

edited 3rd Jan '17 7:32:35 PM by Wyldchyld

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Soble Since: Dec, 2013
#43721: Jan 4th 2017 at 4:18:17 AM

Cool little fanmade fight.

Even when Blake wins she still loses.

From what little I watched (Well, 23 of the episodes anyway) of the Kill La Kill Akame ga Kill anime (which didn't go as far as the manga), Akame... barely did anything noteworthy besides look cool and fight Esdeath. So, thematically...

But still, Akame didn't even use her Super Mode.

edited 4th Jan '17 5:11:07 AM by Soble

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Kiefen MINE! from Germany Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: It's not my fault I'm not popular!
MINE!
#43722: Jan 4th 2017 at 5:05:12 AM

[up] Akame is from Akame Ga Kill as subtly hinted in the title.

Soble Since: Dec, 2013
#43723: Jan 4th 2017 at 5:10:41 AM

In my defense A) the names are incredibly similar, B) it was a typo, and C) both shows have a ton of Fanservice.

And Anime!Akame at least does have a Super Mode that wasn't used.

edited 4th Jan '17 5:18:30 AM by Soble

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LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#43724: Jan 4th 2017 at 5:12:43 AM

[up][up]Eh, well the manga is just ending now, with the last chapter coming up, so I assume it was made before that. It was weird anyway, she got a bunch of tattoos and I guess got faster and stronger or whatever. Kinda vague, actually.

Cross (Don’t ask)
#43725: Jan 4th 2017 at 7:00:52 AM

Did the manga get any better, because I could barely make it though it.

edited 4th Jan '17 7:39:31 AM by Cross


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