Was the purple stuff from his tail actually blood? I assumed when I was watching that it was venom not blood.
@LSBK Fair there! Oh and me saying that I expect them to play it straight isn't a knock against the quality. I don't mind matching expectations so long as I get the experience I wanted out of something.
Probably one reason I loved the fight in this episode! :laugh:
Also, huh, Qrow already knew that Salem is The Queen. I'm curious as to how he already knew.
Improving as an author, one video at a time.We already knew he knew about Salem, he seems pretty privy to what's going on.
Honestly, this reminds me of Avatar The Last Airbender when a Iroh got hit by a cheap shot from Azula. I expect when next we see him he'll be sleeping after he's informed them of everything and they've given him the antidote.
So I finally decided to stop being lazy and get caught up. I was on Chapter 5.
Sun complains about Menagerie being cramped while surrounded by empty space with even more empty space in every direction. He'd probably die in a city like New York or Tokyo.
Menagerie is basically Australia in terms of danger. Grow some fucking backbone, ya pussies. Also, I don't see how the wildlife there could be any more dangerous than the Grimm that are absolutely everywhere and make it very dangerous to live basically anywhere. No wonder people are supposedly racist towards the Faunus if they're whining this much.
MENAGERIE IS BEAUTIFUL. I'D LOVE TO LIVE THERE. WHAT IS WRONG WITH THE FAUNUS? SUN IS RIGHT. WHY WOULD ANYONE WANT TO LEAVE?
The Faunus were give basically Hawaii and told to make due. Seems fair to me.
Second class citizens living in paradise. Fuck you, Blake.
You can kind of see Blake's home from where they're standing. It's only the largest fucking building that's directly ahead of them. Fuck you, Blake.
Sun's reaction is pretty great.
Sun looks so wrong without his abs.
"The Kingdom of Vale wasn't perfect". Lady, when you start your sentence like that, you're a dick. Fuck you, Blake's mom.
Sun saying Blake is an above average fighter. Hahahahahahahahaha. You've got a great sense of humor, Sun.
Those White Fang members are full of shit. They also sound and look like a religious cult. Sun is right about them being creepy.
That's okay, Ghirahim. I don't like you, either.
Yeah, they're full of shit. They show didn't even try to pretend otherwise.
I feel like Team RNJR has walked through this exact area before.
Yeah, Jaune. Drop your map and leave it behind. It's not like you'll need it.
Oniyuri, huh? You literally named your town "Democracy."
Weiss is suddenly voiced by Casey Lee Williams.
The guy Jacques was talking to sounds like KaiserNeko.
General Ironwood gives me more and more reasons to love him with each appearance.
That fight was pretty solid.
Well, RT's video player is refusing to play in HD so I guess I won't be watching the latest WoR or Chapter 7 right now.
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I don't think Qrow knows about Ozpin's Body Surf immortality thing, though he's certainly privy to more than Ironwood and possibly Glynda.
Tropical islands are a nice place to visit. In many cases they're not an especially nice place to live. Standards of living in Menagire seem lower than in Vale.
edited 25th Dec '16 11:13:26 AM by CaptainCapsase
I didn't say he knows everything, just that he's pretty in the know. And the way he talks about it makes it sound like this didn't start with him.
But, yeah, people going "Menagerie looks so nice, Blake is full of it" and "All the people don't look miserable so Faunus obviously aren't discriminated against elsewhere" is really rubbing me the wrong way. I can't image you'd say that in real life, and think it would actually sound nearly as acceptable.
edited 25th Dec '16 11:20:01 AM by LSBK
See, here's the difference: In real life, you can easily see the racism and whatnot. It's not hard. In RWBY, there's only two instances of it that have been shown that I can recall and both were in Volume 1. The first was by a character who's a jerkass and the second was by Weiss and she quickly got over it. If the show's just going to constantly repeat a major point without ever really showing it, I'm not going to believe them.
It'd be like if in Star Wars the characters kept talking about how Jedi can use the Force but you never see them use it.
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x2 The first instance doesn't really count anyway. It just comes across as Carden going after Velvet due to her being meek and an easy target.
The show has a serious Show, Don't Tell problem when it comes to Fanus racism. It's actually kind of infuriating since it's tied to Blake's character.
edited 25th Dec '16 12:30:15 PM by Karxrida
No, it doesn't. Cardin and his gang explicit pick on Velvet because she's a "freak" and he basically calls her an "animal". People can have different reasons to be asses to people. That a racist can be an ass to other people for different reasons doesn't somehow make them less racist.
Maybe it's just me, but I don't really need a random scene of someone of someone randomly being a dick to Blake or someone who is a Faunus to believe that there would be discrimination against the "Animal People".
Because it's something I could completely being true in real life. But maybe that's just me. But regardless of that, I feel it shouldn't be that hard to understand why arguments like "they live in a nice place to look at so everything's fine" are incredibly problematic.
edited 25th Dec '16 1:06:12 PM by LSBK
But, anyway, the stuff with Weiss and Whitley was a bit weird. They seem like they're implying he manipulated her towards this somehow, but I don't really see how being nice to her is supposed to have done that.
Also, apparently the line of succession just goes by age regardless of gender. I guess when Winter joined the army it went to Weiss, and now...
I can understand where you're coming from LBSK, but at the same time outside Weiss (who quickly developed out of it) and two antagonists Faunus racism really hasn't shown up elsewhere. Which wouldn't be a big deal if we didn't regularly see that Faunus were treated no differently for other people. At times it's hard to justified Blake's stance based on what we've seen in-universe and if it wasn't for the fact the current White Fang are meant to be unsympathetic they would be almost as bad as the Uchiha.
Do we really see that? Besides Blake we didn't really see any other Faunus regularly. And the Faunus who we do see exists for reasons beyond "Here's a minority who only exists to show how bad this minority has it".
I mean, I get wanting to see that side explored more, but I can't help but find the arguments being made really unfortunate and uncomfortable. Honestly, even your post has some unfortunate undertones to me with the weird Uchiha comparison.
edited 25th Dec '16 1:40:23 PM by LSBK
I just want the work to actually show me an important part of the world rather than just tell me about it. See my Star Wars hypothetical for how stupid it is.
Let the joy of love give you an answer! Check out my book!The point I was making is that they were constantly talking about an important part of the world but never showed it.
I made a hypothetical by taking an important part of Star Wars and asking you to imagine them never showing it.
I removed any reference to racism because it has nothing to do with that.
How is it a bad hypothetical?
Here, let me give you another from RWBY. Imagine if, in RWBY, they talked about Aura and how it protected the Hunters and let them do all these amazing things and they pointed out how all the characters had it yet every single one of them fought on a normal human level and never displayed a single thing that was superhuman.
Stop relating this to real life. This has nothing to do with real life. I'm just annoyed by the fact that what the show is showing me is completely different from what the show is telling me.
edited 25th Dec '16 1:51:41 PM by Zelenal
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Um, it's kind of hard not to relate this to real life when the same arguments are made in real life, and it's clearly supposed to be related to real life. That's fiction for you. Especially when the same point can be made without them.
And like I said, I get your point, and I get why it's annoying. Of course, I wouldn't actually put this on the same level of jarring as the force or aura somehow not being a thing in Star Wars or RWBY, but, eh.
edited 25th Dec '16 1:59:11 PM by LSBK
So I don't think Blake is the worst fighter on Team RWBY. Because honestly, from everything i've seen... It's Ruby herself.
Think about it. The only times Ruby has had any success is against Torchwick's mooks, the Beowulfs, and all her other successes come when she's in a team when everyone pitches in. Every single time she goes up against any other human character, she loses or fails in some way. She gets knocked on her ass by Torchwick in Volume 1 and contributes nothing to the fight. She fails to impair Cinder in any real way. A single White Fang mook knocks her out because she can't fight without her scythe. (Yet in Volume 3 she's perfectly capable of kicking a Nevermore into a ship at full speed without it) She fails to get past Mercury in time to save Penny. She loses to both Roman and Neo, and only comes out alive due to luck. She only halts Cinder thanks to a power she didn't know about, or can't control. And in this Volume, she can't even touch Tyrian, who had her dead to rights before Crow showed up to save her. And she only got him to flee thanks to a lucky hit due to him being too slow to retract his tail. And Qrow had to take that hit for her due to her not listening to his instructions, which might very well kill him.
Meanwhile, on top of being a ditz, she's not a good enough fighter to be picked over Weiss or Yang, despite being the leader of her team. Who she has done almost no leadership off, only having a single suggestion to go find the White Fang (Something that was effectively Blake's idea), where she loses focus of their job to see Penny. and then after that team got broken up, she went off with a different team. Where she spectacularly overshoots the time they have to travel, and gets them lost.
What the hell are they even going to do when they get to Haven? Because this is all making it look like Ruby's sending her and her new team to their deaths, by picking a fight with people who outclass them in every way possible and will likely slaughter them all with little effort.
Now, to clear things up. I don't think this is some master plan, or malicious intent with them, like they want to write Ruby as someone who causes harm to everyone. It's a collection of weak, or not very forward thinking ideas that have started to snowball together to create this really negative image of her. You can argue against how Ruby is supposed to be, but from everything that has been displayed right on the screen, it makes Ruby come off as an absolute failure of a Huntress, who only gets anywhere due to her family legacy and living relatives. It's been this way for four whole volumes, and it's at the point where she needs to actually look competent for once.
edited 25th Dec '16 2:12:07 PM by Emperordaein
A corpse should be left well enough alone...I don't think any of them are bad fighters. Things like this seem to have this weird standard of "if you don't win flawlessly you're weak, and if you win flawlessly always, you're OP".
Nothing exists in a vacuum, these fight and encounters all have a variety of circumstances and contexts, so it really makes no sense to label any of them as "too strong" or "too weak" or bad fighters or anything.
I mean, it's fine as a joke, when the joke starts getting taken seriously, it gets kind of annoying.
Edit: But looking at most of your stuff, that seems about as unfair as the stuff with Blake.
edited 25th Dec '16 2:15:54 PM by LSBK
I feel Blake's relationship to that stuff is handled poorly as well.
I'm going to this from more perspective of black guy who has seen this stuff, admittedly feels paranoid sometimes about certain things I wish I wasn't, and spent time studying stuff to. It's something I've just both tackled and experienced in ways, just so one can understand where I'm coming from.
Anyway, I agree that the island thing is executed poorly though I disagree with arguments that they should be fine with segregation. The fact we haven't really explored this beyond Blake (who can come off as Soapbox Sadie) and a bunch of assholes hurts the credibility though.
The show seldom makes me feel even lingering prejudice or so on. Cardin's a dick who will find whatever rationalization to harm people. Weiss' issues are more with the White Fang than anything else. Otherwise it's just a bunch of exposition and that annoys me.
Personally, if I was handling it, I wouldn't use so much straightforward stuff of just bullying and more find ways to weave in the indifference many others might feel to certain things or rationalization of certain actions and so on.
I think that's an element the show handles shallowly.
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I think there needs to be a balance. There are characters who are obnoxious because they win every single battle flawlessly (Unless it's intentional, or the series rolls with it, like One Punch Man), but the opposite, where the character loses every single fight is every bit as obnoxious.
My issue with Ruby isn't that I think she should be winning every single fight. It's that she hasn't had any victories that contribute to the plot in any way, and that also means she barely gets to fight. The character used to attract people to the concept of the show doesn't get to fight often, or drive the plot.
edited 25th Dec '16 2:22:53 PM by Emperordaein
A corpse should be left well enough alone...I agree hey are as well. I don't mind the show having them on such a level even if I have aspects I wish had more depth (as in I knew what drove them more) and so on. I feel this element just stands out more because it's something serious and real world and it does it so poorly because it relies on exposition that comes from 1 character.
It's one reason I feel they've failed so far in portraying the white fang as an extremist group.
Anyway though, I totally get the complaints even if I'm someone who doesn't agree with those arguments and so on. I feel the fact the other villains fail there just reflects the show's weaker elements. It's just sad that a few character's overall concept relies on a topic you can't treat shallowly or else they come off as shallow in spite of the reality it's trying to capture.
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I mean, I've mentioned I don't really get why they even bothered with having team leaders, but your wrong in saying she didn't try to actually be a team leader. She coordinated stuff in the fight against Roman with the mech.
And her being leader doesn't necessarily mean she should be picked to fight in the doubles match of the tournament or anything. I doubt Jaune was picked and Cardin wasn't for his team either. That seems more about who can work best as a team/complement each other best.
But, I guess I get what you mean about balance. Today's fight, while cool, left me thinking that Tyrian should have just finished things much sooner before Qrow even got there.
I get what they're trying to do, and I think they actually have some ways you could rationalize stuff if you want, but I get why people wouldn't want to do that.
edited 25th Dec '16 2:31:53 PM by LSBK
Think about it. The only times Ruby has had any success is against Torchwick's mooks
If nothing else everyone can agree that Yang is the best fighter.
edited 25th Dec '16 2:35:20 PM by Soble
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