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VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#43076: Dec 24th 2016 at 11:04:02 AM

Raven probably comes off as more likable because we never saw her do anything to the town. It's a common fandom effect.

unknowing from somewhere.. Since: Mar, 2014
#43077: Dec 24th 2016 at 11:13:28 AM

[up]Just like Adam gain the fandom wrath: not by being exremist who try to create a bloody revolution but because he hurt Blake and Yang.

Fandom can be fickle like that.

"My Name is Bolt, Bolt Crank and I dont care if you believe or not"
Cross (Don’t ask)
#43078: Dec 24th 2016 at 11:17:01 AM

I'm actually okay with him cutting off Yang's arm, but the stuff with Blake is all kinds of wrong to me.

Zelenal The Cat Knows Where It's At from Purrgatory Since: Jul, 2009 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
The Cat Knows Where It's At
#43079: Dec 24th 2016 at 11:23:59 AM

MORE EDGE FOR THE EDGELORD!

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unknowing from somewhere.. Since: Mar, 2014
#43080: Dec 24th 2016 at 11:25:14 AM

[up][up]for me him being absuer just undermined the whole "extremist and deflector" narrative he have with blake, sounding more like bitter ex who dosent get her ex like blones more.

And I like him cutting Yang arm and how much of a fuck he gives about that(none) I like him in how overthetop he is.

[up]EDGE FOR THE EDGE THRONE!

edited 24th Dec '16 11:27:05 AM by unknowing

"My Name is Bolt, Bolt Crank and I dont care if you believe or not"
Cross (Don’t ask)
#43081: Dec 24th 2016 at 11:33:58 AM

Agreed, it's disappointing that they went that route. Here's hoping Sienna has more to them.

Psyga315 Since: Jan, 2001
#43082: Dec 24th 2016 at 11:43:45 AM

Surprised that after the shit Jacques and Whitely pulled, they're labeled as friends and allies.

Time to fix that.

BlackSunNocturne Since: Aug, 2013
#43083: Dec 24th 2016 at 11:44:55 AM

Edit: Nevermind, ignore that

You know what I do hope? Flynt, Neon and the rest of team FNKI show up and help Weiss. Because those two are awesome.

[down]Nah

edited 24th Dec '16 11:49:15 AM by BlackSunNocturne

CaptainCapsase from Orbiting Sagittarius A* Since: Jan, 2015
#43084: Dec 24th 2016 at 11:47:01 AM

As far as screentime division goes, Oscar gets ~3m 43s, Weiss gets ~5m 10s, and RNJR/Qrow get ~5m 26s; in some respects volume 4 feels a bit like volume 1 to the extent that quite a few of the episodes seem to divide screentime into 3ish unconnected sequences. I'm going to rewatch the entire volume to see the extent to which this trend holds because I have some spare time.

[up][up] Friends, allies, and family?

edited 24th Dec '16 11:47:21 AM by CaptainCapsase

VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
Psyga315 Since: Jan, 2001
#43086: Dec 24th 2016 at 11:58:36 AM

[up][up] Somewhat acceptable, but it still leaves a bad taste in my mouth that Jacques and possibly Whitley are in the same category as Penny, Ironwood, and Qrow.

BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
CHADhan Player.
#43087: Dec 24th 2016 at 12:28:49 PM

Remember how people thought Whiteley and Jacques wouldn't be so bad? Good times

A lazy millennial who's good at what he does.
TheMageofFire Since: May, 2012
#43088: Dec 24th 2016 at 12:32:52 PM

I never thought that at all.

All I thought was that Jacques was going to be super broken with summons, but he's not pure-blood Schnee, he's a giant fucking asshole. Frankly now I'm just waiting for his blood spilled across the floor.

...So who do you think will do it? Adam? Hazel? Dr. Watts? Weiss? Ironwood?

Psyga315 Since: Jan, 2001
#43089: Dec 24th 2016 at 12:36:00 PM

I'd say Whitley. He's only getting in close to Jacques so he can kill him when he's vulnerable and take over the SDC.

But I also want him to do something bad so that it can counteract the action of him killing Jacques, since I know some people will end up rooting for him when the overall intent is to see him as not a hero.

CaptainCapsase from Orbiting Sagittarius A* Since: Jan, 2015
#43090: Dec 24th 2016 at 12:38:33 PM

So here's a screentime breakdown for volume 4 by episode for the curious.

1:

Salem and Co: (6m 8s)

Oscar: (1m 24s)

RNJR: (10m 3s)

Weiss: (1 m)

2:

Weiss: (1m 41s)+(4m 8s)=(5m 49s), running total=(6m 49s)

RNJR: (6m 13s)+(3m 4s)=(9m 17s), running total=(19m 20s)

3:

Blake: (2m 5s)+(8m 31s)=(10m 36s)

Yang: (3m 30s)

Salem and co: (1m 55s), running total=(8m 3s)

4:

Oscar: (56s), running total=(2m 20s)

Yang: (7m, 2s)+(23s), running total=(7m, 25s)

RNJR: (1m 55s), running total=(21m 15s)

Qrow/Raven: (3m 57s)

5:

Blake: (10m, 3s), running total=(20m, 39s)

Salem and co: (16s), running total=(8m, 19s)

6:

RNJR:(3m 33s)+(4m, 34s)=(8m, 7s), running total=(29m, 22s) Weiss: (6m), running total=(12m, 49s)

7:

Oscar:(3m, 43s), running total=(6m, 3s)

Weiss:(5m, 10s), running total=(17m, 59s)

RNJR/Qrow:(5m, 26s), running total=(34m, 48s)

Grand totals thus far for each of the running arcs:

RNJR=(34m, 48s)

Blake=(20m, 39s)

Weiss=(17m, 59s)

Salem and co=(8m, 19s)

Yang=(7m, 25s)

Oscar=(6m, 3s)

Qrow/Raven=(3m, 57s)

edited 24th Dec '16 3:05:12 PM by CaptainCapsase

CaptainCapsase from Orbiting Sagittarius A* Since: Jan, 2015
#43091: Dec 24th 2016 at 12:39:27 PM

In conclusion thus far it seems like those mutterings about Ruby still not feeling like the main character have nothing to do with screentime. Of the main four, Yang has gotten the least amount of focus this volume, which is to be expected.

BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
CHADhan Player.
#43092: Dec 24th 2016 at 12:47:39 PM

I really hope this isn't the start of a trend with antagonists being abusers.

A lazy millennial who's good at what he does.
VutherA Since: Jul, 2009
#43093: Dec 24th 2016 at 1:14:38 PM

I have significant doubts that could come up again in a villain. How could it?

TheMageofFire Since: May, 2012
#43094: Dec 24th 2016 at 1:18:40 PM

Yeah, I doubt Hazel or Watts will have that trait. Salem's just overall evil, Tyrian's a loon. That just leaves what? Those two jackal-eared fucks working for Adam?

Shaoken (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Dating Catwoman
#43095: Dec 24th 2016 at 1:22:18 PM

Well we haven't seen Summer or mama Schnee so they still try it if they feel one evil parent isn't enough (disregarding Ravens for the time being).

Cue someone making a dark fic about abusive Summer Rose. Maybe her famous cookies had raisins in them.

edited 24th Dec '16 1:23:47 PM by Shaoken

VutherA Since: Jul, 2009
#43096: Dec 24th 2016 at 1:34:43 PM

Inb4 Willow beats her kids while stinking drunk

...no, I really don't think so.

edited 24th Dec '16 1:34:59 PM by VutherA

Psyga315 Since: Jan, 2001
#43097: Dec 24th 2016 at 2:02:35 PM

I wonder just how dark they can make Jacques and how comically it'd backfire in that everyone will make him out to be the Big Bad.

Soble Since: Dec, 2013
#43098: Dec 24th 2016 at 2:57:56 PM

So the episode's not out for non-sponsors yet. Which means there's a lot of sponsors here.

So here's a screentime breakdown for volume 1 by episode for the curious

Should... I ask for a source?

i hope this isn't the start of a trend of antagonists being abusers

Well.

Yup.

Adam got nailed pretty quickly. Whatever's happening now sounds the same. It's easy drama that a lot of people can relate to/project onto.

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CaptainCapsase from Orbiting Sagittarius A* Since: Jan, 2015
#43099: Dec 24th 2016 at 3:03:14 PM

[up] Source is I did it myself (so it's approximate); that's actually for volume 4 idk why I said 1.

unknowing from somewhere.. Since: Mar, 2014
#43100: Dec 24th 2016 at 3:22:31 PM

[up][up]is diferent, with Jaques we knew he was abuser just don know is nature or how he was one, Adam move from "I must kill humanity to faunus to shine" to "WHY YOU DIDN LOVE ME BLAKE?, WHYYYYYYYY!"

"My Name is Bolt, Bolt Crank and I dont care if you believe or not"

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