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BlackSunNocturne Since: Aug, 2013
#42876: Dec 16th 2016 at 11:49:51 AM

[up]What, slapping your younger sibling for saying a stupid answer?

Drill Sergeants irl, which is how a lot of stuff in RWBY is based, can't hit their trainees (anymore). They yell at them, a lot.

That being said: It's not unusual to me, as my that's what happens a lot on both sides of my family. Dope Slap for saying something very stupid as a way of "don't do that".

edited 16th Dec '16 11:50:23 AM by BlackSunNocturne

unknowing from somewhere.. Since: Mar, 2014
#42877: Dec 16th 2016 at 11:52:32 AM

For me Winter treatment dosent surprise me, I have some friend with militar familiars and they are strict and very hard to get at times since they get a little bit control freak at times.

about Whietly....unlike other, he dosent seen to have a problem with Jaques, I guess because he is the middle child so Winter and Weiss take the blunt of is atention. or maybe he is a man and he look more like is father.

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VutherA Since: Jul, 2009
#42878: Dec 16th 2016 at 11:53:49 AM

There was also the "Silence you boob!" tone that she used and immediately dropped right after, though. You know, a real prim-reprimanding kind of air. Seemed a bit strange to me, which is why I'm mentioning it.

When I think about it, it's probably would be considered fine in Remnant militaries to hit the recruits a small bit. As long as they've still got aura, it wouldn't be hurting them anyway.

edited 16th Dec '16 11:58:05 AM by VutherA

BlackSunNocturne Since: Aug, 2013
#42879: Dec 16th 2016 at 11:54:15 AM

[up][up]Minor nitpick: Whitley's the youngest, not the middle.

[up]Yeah. Like I said, it's not really unusual, especially since she's in the military. Plus, right after the "Silence you boob!", she immediately asks Weiss again, this time being completely clear in what she's asking. It's clear that Winter's supposed to be a foil for Yang in regards to them both being a Cool Big Sis to their younger sisters.

edited 16th Dec '16 11:57:20 AM by BlackSunNocturne

unknowing from somewhere.. Since: Mar, 2014
#42880: Dec 16th 2016 at 11:57:36 AM

She pretty much treat Weiss as cadet right there, the intersting part is that unlike other chararter who are harsh and them seen concern, she was harsh at Wiess so SHE can be concern by her, that is unusual.

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VutherA Since: Jul, 2009
#42881: Dec 16th 2016 at 11:59:02 AM

Yeah, the foil thing is a certainty. Could be me overthinking it from there, then.

unknowing from somewhere.. Since: Mar, 2014
#42882: Dec 16th 2016 at 12:05:42 PM

Of Yang? doubt it, Winter,Crow,Raven and Adam are foils of RWBY: while Weiss is aloof and something strict Winter is harsh and hard to talk, Ruby is awkard with people while Qrow outright antisocial, Adam is agresive while Blake run away from her problem and Raven seen to care nothing but strenght.

Granted, I will said Adam is also a Foil of Yang in a way.

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BlackSunNocturne Since: Aug, 2013
#42883: Dec 16th 2016 at 12:08:41 PM

[up]No, Winter is a Foil to Yang in regards to being a Cool Big Sis. You're misusing/misinterpeting the trope. A foil is "A character who highlights another character's trait(s), usually by contrast".

Having the same traits as another character isn't a foil.

edited 16th Dec '16 12:09:59 PM by BlackSunNocturne

unknowing from somewhere.. Since: Mar, 2014
#42884: Dec 16th 2016 at 12:14:40 PM

Well, Foil is a damn flexible trope since a lot of chararter can handlight another

Also when I said Yang and Adam are foil am not kidding: both are agresive,impuslive and set in their missions who care about Blake(kind off)

In fact, the moment were Yang charg to Adam have a intersting symbolism right there: he the bull faunus is actiling like a Matador, waiting for Bull(Yang) to charge before he can atack, while Yang is just rushing in violent manner with red eyes

edited 16th Dec '16 12:18:52 PM by unknowing

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#42885: Dec 16th 2016 at 12:56:57 PM

I'd love a RWBY Chibi short with Ruby as a matador bullfighting Adam.

AAAAUUUUGGGHHHH!!!!
NativeJovian Jupiterian Local from Orlando, FL Since: Mar, 2014 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
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#42886: Dec 16th 2016 at 1:27:03 PM

On Winter, I think Jovian's description is apt, except for the part about her not caring about Weiss.
I don't think that Winter doesn't care about Weiss, I just think she shows it by being strict and demanding ("it's for your own good, I just want the best for you" sort of thing), when what Weiss really wants is a little warmth.

Oh, and Winter's dislike is totally justified. He's the type of character who's cool as a character, but the type I think most people would dislike in real life, let alone a prim and proper type like Winter.
That's fair, but Winter's problem is that she can't get past her personal dislike of him like his other allies can. Crow annoys basically everyone (except Ruby, who hero-worships him unreservedly), but Winter's the only one who actually lets it become an obstacle to working with him.

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LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#42887: Dec 16th 2016 at 1:48:21 PM

In fairness, I don't think Qrow tries to actively provoke fights with the others. She didn't need to/shouldn't have taken the bait, but the unprofessional animosity goes both ways.

There's a story there, hopefully, not one of "unamiable exes", as entertaining as that would be.

edited 16th Dec '16 1:48:48 PM by LSBK

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#42888: Dec 16th 2016 at 1:57:54 PM

And with her mother being a drunk apparently she probably has issues with alcoholics. That and qrow did seem intent on pushing all her buttons. Of his intent was to put on a show he succeeded.

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Wyldchyld (Old as dirt)
#42889: Dec 16th 2016 at 2:32:40 PM

Regarding Weiss's accidental summoning: She was panting once the Boarbatusk was fully formed and still breathing somewhat hard when it disappeared. I have no doubt it was her summoning, not in the least because it happened right in front of the portrait of Beacon, the place where we see her kill the show's first Boarbatusk.

Whitley's behaviour was interesting though. When she first let rip, he had a hand over his mouth. However, once she started lambasting the pettiness and selfishness of everyone, he started smiling.

Regarding Winter, I always think she behaves like a mother to Weiss, not a sister. From her introduction, I was wondering if the mother was dead or somehow absent, forcing Winter to feel like she had to step into the hole left behind. Now we have an implication that she might be an alcoholic, and suddenly Winter's attitude towards Qrow's drunkenness (and her comment to Glynda afterwards indicates it may have been the drunkenness that really offended her about Qrow) that truly irritated her.

Besides which, Qrow actually started picking a fight with Winter in public, surrounded by students, over matters we later learn are so top secret even most fully trained huntsmen know nothing about it. Especially since Qrow later shows the extent of his beef with Ironwood for not being discreet. Yes, Ironwood may not know when use and hide his strength, but at least he keeps his mouth shut in public.

So, Qrow picking a fight in public over secret matters while drunk were a good two reasons for Winter to be pissed off with him. Not that I mind the fact these characters aren't perfect and make mistakes. That's fine with me. The point seems to be that he clearly enjoys pushing her buttons more than he should and she lets him press her buttons more easily than she should.

edited 16th Dec '16 2:41:56 PM by Wyldchyld

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#42890: Dec 16th 2016 at 9:07:03 PM

[up]So the Big Good (Ozpin's group) is less "Knights of the Round Table" and more The Office....

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Soble Since: Dec, 2013
#42891: Dec 16th 2016 at 9:12:31 PM

[nja] Beat me by four seconds.

edited 16th Dec '16 9:13:44 PM by Soble

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AmbarSonofDeshar Since: Jan, 2010
#42893: Dec 16th 2016 at 9:31:46 PM

Like I said, it's not really unusual

Yes it is. Slapping your kid sister in front of her friend (and team leader)? You don't do that. That's completely socially unacceptable. And of course pulling a sword on Qrow is well beyond the pale, no matter how much of a drunken ass he may have been acting like (this isn't to say Qrow is unworthy of criticism for being a drunken ass, just that skewering him is not an appropriate reaction).

Winter's entire introduction is really problematic. The first things we see her do are slap Weiss unprovoked (and yes, giving the "wrong" answer is still doing something unprovoked) and then pick a fight with Qrow (who asshole he may be did not get physical until she did) because he dissed her boss. The rest of the episode and the whole of the episode after it tries to backpedal on this and establish her as a better person, but it doesn't really work because the slap and the fight between them make for a hell of a first impression no matter how you slice it. She's not unsalvageable, but it will take a lot more appearances before she climbs out of the hole she put herself in.

edited 17th Dec '16 8:56:13 AM by AmbarSonofDeshar

randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
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#42894: Dec 16th 2016 at 9:34:35 PM

She put herself in a whole hole, gee. That's a problem ain't it?

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#42895: Dec 16th 2016 at 9:38:24 PM

Technically, Qrow "attacked" Atlas property when he destroyed a robot because 'haha i'm drunk but i'm a ~special secret spy~ so there's no consequences for me acting like a piece of shit'.

Seriously, I don't get why people like Qrow. His character type has been done to death and 'he's an alcoholic but without any actual repercussions for this' bullshit is so incredibly aggravating.

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randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
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#42896: Dec 16th 2016 at 9:39:58 PM

Something being done to death isn't gonna change some people's opinions...so that's not the problem.

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TheMageofFire Since: May, 2012
#42897: Dec 16th 2016 at 10:32:18 PM

Not to mention him being a drunk is like, mostly in the first episode. He spends the rest of Season 3:

-Hanging out with Yang and Ruby

-Calling out Ozpin and Ironwood

-Being a badass.

And in his only appearances in Season 4 he's:

-Protected Team RNJR from Grimm attacks

-Called out Raven for a lot of her neglect.

-Managed to keep Ozpin's cane away from the enemy for six months.

-Been a badass.

So...being a drunk doesn't define his character really.

unknowing from somewhere.. Since: Mar, 2014
#42898: Dec 16th 2016 at 10:33:13 PM

[up][up][up]Also, is hard to said something about wrow being one before when the entire series is REALLY derivative of anime and video games: the lone warrior, the thrill seeker, in that aspect Jaune arc with Phyrra in second volume is the worst as Adam being an abuser(something I feel it cheap is chararter), Qrow is charming and hilariosly a dick so people like that.

[up]Qrow is pretty much a Dr house kind of chararter: is imply he driking start because Summer death or a least another incident and go out is way to not being friendly with everyone, he is flawed but awsome and that is what they like of him.

edited 16th Dec '16 10:35:43 PM by unknowing

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#42899: Dec 16th 2016 at 10:58:25 PM

Considering what the next episode of RWBY is....

hint: It may or may not involve the SDC in WOR.

edited 16th Dec '16 11:00:00 PM by VoidsEmpathy

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