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FergardStratoavis A Fluff Ringer from Bellveins (Troper Knight) Relationship Status: A gay little love melody
A Fluff Ringer
#42776: Dec 13th 2016 at 3:07:44 PM

[up][up][up]Clearly it's because The Torchwick Swag Style is too strong to handle.

...we can dream. <.< Granted, Sun is set up to fight with Adam, either with Blake or without her, both thanks to the symbolism and thanks to the whole "kill stuff you love" spiel.

edited 13th Dec '16 3:08:48 PM by FergardStratoavis

Ninety Absolutely no relation to NLK from Land of Quakes and Hills Since: Nov, 2012 Relationship Status: In Spades with myself
Absolutely no relation to NLK
#42777: Dec 13th 2016 at 3:10:14 PM

I'm skeptical of that claim. For one, Sun would get absolutely curbstomped by Adam.

Dopants: He meant what he said and he said what he meant, a Ninety is faithful 100%.
powerpuffbats The crabby fussbudget Since: Mar, 2014 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
The crabby fussbudget
#42778: Dec 13th 2016 at 3:47:01 PM

Ghira and Kali would likely die protecting their daughter.

AAAAUUUUGGGHHHH!!!!
FergardStratoavis A Fluff Ringer from Bellveins (Troper Knight) Relationship Status: A gay little love melody
A Fluff Ringer
#42779: Dec 13th 2016 at 3:59:33 PM

[up][up] Which is why I'd imagine if such a thing came to pass, the two would have to fight Adam together.

[up] I do hope we avoid dead parents, though. >.>

VutherA Since: Jul, 2009
#42781: Dec 13th 2016 at 4:09:11 PM

Jacques dying to protect Weiss is probably the only way he'd stand a chance of people liking him tongue

And it'd probably be up to "Well he wasn't so bad I guess" at best

edited 13th Dec '16 4:09:51 PM by VutherA

FergardStratoavis A Fluff Ringer from Bellveins (Troper Knight) Relationship Status: A gay little love melody
A Fluff Ringer
#42782: Dec 13th 2016 at 4:11:46 PM

I mean, dead parents for the sake of dead parents just doesn't feel like it serves much of a purpose.

  • With Summer it's fine, since she's been dead forever and explicitly shows up only as a background info, so to say.
  • Jacques (and Mama Schnee) is probably going to be fine; I don't think you can off one of the most influential people in Atlas so easily.
  • Taiyang is out of the way; going for him would be fairly pointless unless someone decides to pay Yang an unwanted visit (Neo?).
  • Raven and Qrow (despite the latter's giant death flags) are important to the story; until we have stuff at least somewhat explained they probably shouldn't be dying.

So I guess that leaves Ghira and Kali, especially since Adam is going to be frolicking over to Menagerie real fast once he hears the news. Still, they are obviously far more important characters than, say, Tukson (who got introduced pretty much only to be killed and show that new villains don't fuck around), so killing them so soon would be kind of dissatisfying to the narrative.

VutherA Since: Jul, 2009
#42783: Dec 13th 2016 at 5:11:48 PM

Frankly, I'd assume Jacques would at least be under threat inevitably if they're going to keep the White Fang in the story. It's a logical extension of pretty much all of them. If that doesn't happen, the White Fang didn't stay for long.

Wyldchyld (Old as dirt)
#42784: Dec 13th 2016 at 5:39:25 PM

And maybe Phyrrha's folks, too.

I'm standing by my WMG that Pyrrha's mother is going to be the Haven headmistress. Not only will that make it relevant for her to meet the gang, but it'll also offer a nasty twist on Pyrrha's comment that her mother's favourite fairy tale is the Four Seasons one. As the Haven head, she'd be in on the Benevolent Conspiracy and therefore be in a position to find out that her daughter died, in part, because she became a candidate for the Fall Maiden's power - that would ruin her favourite story forever.

Heh, there was so much suspicion of that, Miles flat-out said that no, he's one of the good guys. I think it was after Ironwood got to provide security of the festival with his army over Ozpin's way.

I never understood it, but then I don't think people should be troping Ozpin as the Big Good or Cinder as Complete Monster either, but there you go. Ironwood, however, was based on the Tin Man, so it really didn't make sense for him to be anything but a good person. Arguing with Ozpin just meant "good guys disagree on the best way to deal with the bad guys", which is a common enough story element. Look at Crimson Tide, which absolutely wallowed in Good vs. Good.

When he says he thinks Ozpin is hiding something, that's going to mean his instincts were spot on. Yeah, he was daft for demanding Ozpin trust him when he couldn't do the same for Ozpin, but it won't change the fact that his instincts will be right about Ozpin hiding something... and it won't change the fact that Ozpin was pretty magnaminous about Ironwood's actions in private when he shut down Qrow's privately offered criticism (so he wasn't bitching about Ironwood behind Ironwood's back).

I toy with the idea that a much younger Ozpin was actually more like Ironwood in his youth and he's had to learn his lessons the hard way - mistakes he can see Ironwood repeating right in front of him.

I get the impression that Ozpin's the kind of guy who wasn't naturally wise; he was the kind of guy who only learned his lessons through making mistakes. Big ones. Howlers. World-shaking ones... even moon-breaking ones, I suspect.

I mean, Ironwood has Stubble Of Sorrow, so I'm guessing he feels bad about the whole thing.

From Ironwood's point-of-view, he's going to be blaming himself for Beacon's fall, and he's going to be thinking that his very last conversation with Ozpin was one where Ozpin may have 'died' thinking the worst of Ironwood. Ironwood never got the chance to properly apologise.

Remember how he was acting when he misunderstood Qrow was trying to save him? He almost collapsed with relief when he realised Qrow didn't blame him. Man's got regrets.

I'd lose a tiny bit of respect for the writers if he was just a greedy SOB. It's been done to death (even the aforementioned Quark has his Pet the Dog moments).

And now I have visions of Jacques being constantly embarrassed by the business-stupid brother who's a mining genius... no wait, the embarrassing relative is probably his wife. Oh God, Weiss's mother is Rom... does this mean Weiss is Nog?

...

Does this mean Qrow is Morn?

edited 13th Dec '16 5:42:39 PM by Wyldchyld

If my post doesn't mention a giant flying sperm whale with oversized teeth and lionfish fins for flippers, it just isn't worth reading.
AmbarSonofDeshar Since: Jan, 2010
#42785: Dec 13th 2016 at 6:20:19 PM

I never understood it, but then I don't think people should be troping Ozpin as the Big Good or Cinder as Complete Monster

Cinder at least currently meets all the requirements. She may be a cut at some future point, I suppose, but so far she's done nothing to warrant being removed.

32ndfreeze Since: Mar, 2012
#42786: Dec 13th 2016 at 6:20:56 PM

This talk of mothers and fathers got me thinking.

Wouldn't it be hilarious if Taiyang was Neo's father?

VutherA Since: Jul, 2009
#42787: Dec 13th 2016 at 6:30:35 PM

I didn't think about that for Iron and Oz. Parting-Words Regret plain sucks.

[up]We're assuming that about everyone until proven otherwise

edited 13th Dec '16 6:34:43 PM by VutherA

Parable Since: Aug, 2009
#42788: Dec 13th 2016 at 7:30:03 PM

What Neo is thinking: Yang I am your sister.

What Neo is saying: ...

Yang: It's like she's trying to tell me something...

VutherA Since: Jul, 2009
#42789: Dec 13th 2016 at 7:35:52 PM

Neo grabs Ruby and points at Ruby and herself constantly.

Yang assumes she's saying she's 16 (that's probably what Ruby is now right?).

Parable Since: Aug, 2009
#42790: Dec 13th 2016 at 7:42:15 PM

The reveal is stretched into an entire episode of charades.

"Starts with... S?"

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#42791: Dec 13th 2016 at 7:43:45 PM

I've been thinking, though Qrow pointed out the Silver-Eyed Warriors were said to "be able to strike a grimm down with a single look" I can't help but feel their power isn't just good against grimm.

Super effective against them, yes, but I can't help but feel the renowned warriors had more to them than that.

Also, the Legion of Evil didn't seem surprised so much that Ruby's power hurt Cinder, and more so that it even got to that point in the first place.

edited 13th Dec '16 7:54:20 PM by LSBK

Parable Since: Aug, 2009
#42792: Dec 13th 2016 at 7:50:30 PM

Considering they're already hunting one set of allegedly mythical figures, I take it the existence of the Silver Eyed Warriors was something they were already aware of. One they weren't aware of being in Vale was just an oversight.

Considering half the others don't have a high opinion of Cinder anyway, I wouldn't have been surprised if she broke her ankle falling down some stairs only for them to go, "Meh. Knew she couldn't handle it."

Soble Since: Dec, 2013
#42793: Dec 13th 2016 at 8:39:16 PM

...it dawns on me that while Team RWBY is inspired, but not "based" on fairy tale characters; they themselves are attached to some sort of of some myth, legend, or fantastical thing in their world.

Ruby's mom was probably the Summer Maiden. Ruby is one of the Silver Eyed Warriors. Weiss is a Schnee, whose warriors are winter-themed necromancers. Blake is a member of the Faunus, animal-human hybrids.

Which leads to Yang being a maverick again and lacking something the other members of Team RWBY have. She didn't get any real backstory in Volume 1 (we at least knew that Ruby was taught by her uncle and that she wanted to be a Huntress since she was little, that Weiss came from a nasty family, that Blake used to go to Faunus rallies), any genuine character development (she did get a backstory, but Ruby is shown coming into her leader role, Blake becomes obsessed with stopping the White Fang, and Weiss is ostensibly nicer and friendlier) in Volume 2, didn't have a rival (Torchwick, Adam) or a Foil (Winter) in Volume 3, and no mythological connection (as explained) in 4.

Yang's always missing something every Volume, which isn't calling it bad writing... I mean, it's seems too coincidental that she's the one missing a limb right now.

edited 13th Dec '16 9:06:35 PM by Soble

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VutherA Since: Jul, 2009
#42794: Dec 13th 2016 at 8:45:04 PM

Maybe that just means her mom's gonna be reallll important.

AmbarSonofDeshar Since: Jan, 2010
#42795: Dec 13th 2016 at 8:50:38 PM

[up][up]She and Mercury seemed to be heading into rival territory in three, though that's gone nowhere as of yet.

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#42796: Dec 13th 2016 at 8:54:22 PM

[up][up][up]Where did Ruby's mom being the Summer Maiden come from? Qrow confirmed that Summer was also a Silver Eyed Warrior.

VutherA Since: Jul, 2009
#42797: Dec 13th 2016 at 8:55:54 PM

I think he was just guessing. The Silver Eyes thing still floats his point without it anyway.

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#42798: Dec 13th 2016 at 8:57:30 PM

I'm just curious where the guess was coming from.

edited 13th Dec '16 8:58:07 PM by LSBK

Discar Since: Jun, 2009
#42799: Dec 13th 2016 at 9:00:54 PM

It's been a guess since the second we found out about the Maidens. There are awesome women with season-themed powers who need to be protected from bad guys, and an awesome woman with a seasonal name disappeared under mysterious circumstances.

Writing a post-post apocalypse LitRPG on RR. Also fanfic stuff.

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