I mean, dead parents for the sake of dead parents just doesn't feel like it serves much of a purpose.
- With Summer it's fine, since she's been dead forever and explicitly shows up only as a background info, so to say.
- Jacques (and Mama Schnee) is probably going to be fine; I don't think you can off one of the most influential people in Atlas so easily.
- Taiyang is out of the way; going for him would be fairly pointless unless someone decides to pay Yang an unwanted visit (Neo?).
- Raven and Qrow (despite the latter's giant death flags) are important to the story; until we have stuff at least somewhat explained they probably shouldn't be dying.
So I guess that leaves Ghira and Kali, especially since Adam is going to be frolicking over to Menagerie real fast once he hears the news. Still, they are obviously far more important characters than, say, Tukson (who got introduced pretty much only to be killed and show that new villains don't fuck around), so killing them so soon would be kind of dissatisfying to the narrative.
I'm standing by my WMG that Pyrrha's mother is going to be the Haven headmistress. Not only will that make it relevant for her to meet the gang, but it'll also offer a nasty twist on Pyrrha's comment that her mother's favourite fairy tale is the Four Seasons one. As the Haven head, she'd be in on the Benevolent Conspiracy and therefore be in a position to find out that her daughter died, in part, because she became a candidate for the Fall Maiden's power - that would ruin her favourite story forever.
I never understood it, but then I don't think people should be troping Ozpin as the Big Good or Cinder as Complete Monster either, but there you go. Ironwood, however, was based on the Tin Man, so it really didn't make sense for him to be anything but a good person. Arguing with Ozpin just meant "good guys disagree on the best way to deal with the bad guys", which is a common enough story element. Look at Crimson Tide, which absolutely wallowed in Good vs. Good.
When he says he thinks Ozpin is hiding something, that's going to mean his instincts were spot on. Yeah, he was daft for demanding Ozpin trust him when he couldn't do the same for Ozpin, but it won't change the fact that his instincts will be right about Ozpin hiding something... and it won't change the fact that Ozpin was pretty magnaminous about Ironwood's actions in private when he shut down Qrow's privately offered criticism (so he wasn't bitching about Ironwood behind Ironwood's back).
I toy with the idea that a much younger Ozpin was actually more like Ironwood in his youth and he's had to learn his lessons the hard way - mistakes he can see Ironwood repeating right in front of him.
I get the impression that Ozpin's the kind of guy who wasn't naturally wise; he was the kind of guy who only learned his lessons through making mistakes. Big ones. Howlers. World-shaking ones... even moon-breaking ones, I suspect.
From Ironwood's point-of-view, he's going to be blaming himself for Beacon's fall, and he's going to be thinking that his very last conversation with Ozpin was one where Ozpin may have 'died' thinking the worst of Ironwood. Ironwood never got the chance to properly apologise.
Remember how he was acting when he misunderstood Qrow was trying to save him? He almost collapsed with relief when he realised Qrow didn't blame him. Man's got regrets.
And now I have visions of Jacques being constantly embarrassed by the business-stupid brother who's a mining genius... no wait, the embarrassing relative is probably his wife. Oh God, Weiss's mother is Rom... does this mean Weiss is Nog?
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Does this mean Qrow is Morn?
edited 13th Dec '16 5:42:39 PM by Wyldchyld
If my post doesn't mention a giant flying sperm whale with oversized teeth and lionfish fins for flippers, it just isn't worth reading.I didn't think about that for Iron and Oz. Parting-Words Regret plain sucks.
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We're assuming that about everyone until proven otherwise
edited 13th Dec '16 6:34:43 PM by VutherA
I've been thinking, though Qrow pointed out the Silver-Eyed Warriors were said to "be able to strike a grimm down with a single look" I can't help but feel their power isn't just good against grimm.
Super effective against them, yes, but I can't help but feel the renowned warriors had more to them than that.
Also, the Legion of Evil didn't seem surprised so much that Ruby's power hurt Cinder, and more so that it even got to that point in the first place.
edited 13th Dec '16 7:54:20 PM by LSBK
Considering they're already hunting one set of allegedly mythical figures, I take it the existence of the Silver Eyed Warriors was something they were already aware of. One they weren't aware of being in Vale was just an oversight.
Considering half the others don't have a high opinion of Cinder anyway, I wouldn't have been surprised if she broke her ankle falling down some stairs only for them to go, "Meh. Knew she couldn't handle it."
...it dawns on me that while Team RWBY is inspired, but not "based" on fairy tale characters; they themselves are attached to some sort of of some myth, legend, or fantastical thing in their world.
Ruby's mom was probably the Summer Maiden. Ruby is one of the Silver Eyed Warriors. Weiss is a Schnee, whose warriors are winter-themed necromancers. Blake is a member of the Faunus, animal-human hybrids.
Which leads to Yang being a maverick again and lacking something the other members of Team RWBY have. She didn't get any real backstory in Volume 1 (we at least knew that Ruby was taught by her uncle and that she wanted to be a Huntress since she was little, that Weiss came from a nasty family, that Blake used to go to Faunus rallies), any genuine character development (she did get a backstory, but Ruby is shown coming into her leader role, Blake becomes obsessed with stopping the White Fang, and Weiss is ostensibly nicer and friendlier) in Volume 2, didn't have a rival (Torchwick, Adam) or a Foil (Winter) in Volume 3, and no mythological connection (as explained) in 4.
Yang's always missing something every Volume, which isn't calling it bad writing... I mean, it's seems too coincidental that she's the one missing a limb right now.
edited 13th Dec '16 9:06:35 PM by Soble
I'M MR. MEESEEKS, LOOK AT ME!It's been a guess since the second we found out about the Maidens. There are awesome women with season-themed powers who need to be protected from bad guys, and an awesome woman with a seasonal name disappeared under mysterious circumstances.
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It's a fair point from a Doylist view - Winter Schnee is probably not going to be the Winter Maiden for the reason that would be disgustingly foreseeable, but writers love meaningful names still so Summer having been the Summer Maiden would allow them to indulge that while being far less painfully obvious for viewer predictions since it doesn't matter that much because she's already dead anyway.
edited 13th Dec '16 9:01:59 PM by VutherA

...we can dream. <.< Granted, Sun is set up to fight with Adam, either with Blake or without her, both thanks to the symbolism and thanks to the whole "kill stuff you love" spiel.
edited 13th Dec '16 3:08:48 PM by FergardStratoavis