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IniuriaTalis Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: Love, football, the arts, the occasional pint
#42176: Nov 24th 2016 at 7:49:44 AM

Actually, some person who apparently talked to him said that Williams said that "Not Fall In Love With You" was an old boy-band song he'd written, and not specifically from Sun to Blake. Not sure how accurate that is, though, because the only source is a third-party Tumblr post and we all know how the shipping fandoms are there.

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Parable Since: Aug, 2009
#42177: Nov 24th 2016 at 8:12:41 AM

I'd take that with a grain of salt. A blog post from a guy who knows a guy who knows a guy is just the sort of thing you should not take into consideration.

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#42178: Nov 24th 2016 at 8:54:40 AM

[up][up][up] Grimm Eclipse villain, last I've seen.

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#42179: Nov 24th 2016 at 11:37:14 AM

Anyway, back to my binge of the archive, I've notice besides tired Blake jokes it seems really hard for anyone to just be a good fighter. The way the thread was going on, either people sucked or they did too well and needed to be nerfed. I'd say that was about how the fights are done, but it really just comes off as people being oddly picky.

Also, people apparently being both surprised that Weiss's father to come get her, and why she would go with him. I feel like both of those things are pretty obvious.

If it seems like I'm just being super critical, I'm not, I just like going back and musing about these things.

randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
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#42180: Nov 24th 2016 at 11:40:39 AM

Skill level just isn't as obvious as it should be...sorry.

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LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#42181: Nov 24th 2016 at 11:45:16 AM

To me it just comes off as arbitrarily judging some people harder than others because of weird expectations/memes. Like, a lot. The character's actual abilities seem pretty consistent. Somewhere along the lines it seemed like there was no middle ground.

edited 24th Nov '16 11:45:55 AM by LSBK

Soble Since: Dec, 2013
#42182: Nov 24th 2016 at 11:54:25 AM

The only thing I complained about was Ruby losing all of her upper body strength when she fought those WF guys.

Or is this more about Blake's fighting ability.

I mean technically the ship is what killed that sea dragon Grimm. Weiss beat the giant armor by herself. Yang killed a huuuuge Ursa and a giant robot. Ruby beheaded a Nevermore. Blake tho'...

edited 24th Nov '16 12:03:00 PM by Soble

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randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
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#42183: Nov 24th 2016 at 11:55:21 AM

They should've had them fighting the other trainees "before" batting for the large threats.

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#42184: Nov 24th 2016 at 12:11:05 PM

If we go by the manga Ruby fought Cardin once at least and there were probably a few off screen fights since combat exercises seems to be what goes on in Glynda Goodwitch's class.

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randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
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#42185: Nov 24th 2016 at 12:16:19 PM

Not in off-screen land, visuals necessary.

They should've "showed" MC againsts other trainees before villains. The class sparring matches would've been great to see besides those 3.

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LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#42186: Nov 24th 2016 at 12:18:37 PM

[up][up][up][up]Like I said, my point wasn't just about Blake. The characters seem to unfairly, at least to my mind, get looked at either as "too weak" or "too strong", regardless of circumstances.

The Blake thing is annoying because it's a meme being taken too seriously, but it's not the only thing I find weird.

edited 24th Nov '16 12:20:00 PM by LSBK

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#42187: Nov 24th 2016 at 12:30:36 PM

[up][up]

We know they go to class and every instance of a class with that professor shows sparring matches. Chances are high there was a bunch of stuff in regards to class not shown.

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#42188: Nov 24th 2016 at 12:35:23 PM

We've seen Jaune spar with Cardin and Pyrrha against his whole team so we know it happens. No reason to show more unless it's relevant to the plot the same way we don't see more of their classes.

randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
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#42189: Nov 24th 2016 at 12:39:02 PM

Okay, it can happen somehow...just not by any of Randomness' suggestions.

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Soble Since: Dec, 2013
#42190: Nov 24th 2016 at 12:55:08 PM

The characters seem to unfairly, at least to my mind, get looked at either as "too weak" or "too strong", regardless of circumstance

Eh, I probably just missed it.

I would say Cinder's seen as "too strong" but that's due to her constant victories moreso than fighting ability.

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#42191: Nov 24th 2016 at 1:05:38 PM

  • All of team RWBY is adequately strong, with Yang being "hella" previously.
  • Nora's the best hard hitter, Pyrrha is the best at fighting people, Ren doesn't get to do cool stuff because reasons, Jaune is bad at fighting.
  • Team CFVY are kinda the upperclassmen archetype but we barely get to see Fox, Yatsuhashi spends most of his fight screentime getting his ass kicked in by Mercury, Coco just looks like she has an OP weapon that is mostly good for PvE, and Velvet has a really cool schtick that was sorta retconned in when people liked her and she demanded more screentime than just being a bully target.
  • Team CRDL are pretty bad overall, with Cardin having brute strength and nothing else, although Russel and Sky demonstrate some pretty good teamwork when fighting Pyrrha until Cardin fucks it up.
  • Of SSSN, Sun's pretty great and shows to excel at 1v1, Neptune spends most of his limited fight screentime as comic relief, and Sage and Scarlet spend all of it.
  • I don't care about the tournament teams.
  • Roman is great at fighting, although seems not to be Huntsman-tier. Maybe around Pyrrha level or a bit below.
  • Mercury's better than any of the students. Emerald doesn't fight much.
  • Qrow, Winter, Cinder, etcetera are clearly a tier above the kids. Ozpin seems above that.
  • Zwei is god.

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randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
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#42192: Nov 24th 2016 at 1:08:54 PM

A tier list would suffice...yep. That's what we needed, an official tier list per every piece of story progression.

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#42193: Nov 24th 2016 at 1:15:27 PM

I can actually make one if I'm bored enough.

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VutherA Since: Jul, 2009
#42194: Nov 24th 2016 at 1:15:39 PM

HAIL, HAIL, HAIL

I don't think Sage even got to be comic relief (I guess yelling WHOOOOOAAA as a tornado carries you off is a little bit funny though?). He just got knocked out like a punk.

edited 24th Nov '16 1:17:41 PM by VutherA

AmbarSonofDeshar Since: Jan, 2010
#42195: Nov 24th 2016 at 2:11:43 PM

I never really understood the mockery of Sage and Scarlet. Sage simply got unlucky and was taken out by a near perfect hit right at the start of the fight, something that can happen to anyone. Scarlet actually puts up a perfectly respectable performance, complete with trapping a member of the other team before being hit by a shot meant for Sun.

To act like they're both total incompetents really isn't fair. We haven't seen enough from either of them to properly judge.

randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
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#42196: Nov 24th 2016 at 2:19:58 PM

First impressions mean everything to a side character...

But that only means the Sage guy deserves mocking, while the other guy is just there.

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Soble Since: Dec, 2013
#42197: Nov 24th 2016 at 2:28:45 PM

I wouldn't say it's just their combat performance. They were in the Volume 2 opener and were supposedly going to be important. They showed up for 5 seconds in Volume 2 and weren't voiced, and when they did show up in Volume 3 they were practically one-shotted and not seen again until the Big Damn Heroes scene when the Nevermore attacked. So, irony.

Sun and Neptune don't typically get a lot done, but they at least have some characterization that pushes them past "mischievous love interest and ladies man." Scarlet and Sage are just the possibly gay pirate character and the black guy with the huge sword. Stereotypes.

Add that Sage got taken out despite being SSSN's tank (irony again), and Scarlet was taken out by a long-range Groin Attack (so he did get to be comic relief). Slapstick.

edited 24th Nov '16 6:40:18 PM by Soble

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LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#42198: Nov 24th 2016 at 2:51:46 PM

So, any other crazy theories you've heard?

Like, besides Qrow being Ruby's real father, I'm looking at some stuff with some people going "What if Raven isn't Yang's mother!"? Or any other stupid family stuff.

I've never gotten wanting to make family drama more complicated.

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#42199: Nov 24th 2016 at 3:28:16 PM

There was that theory that Cinder is Summer Rose. I think it died once we saw what Summer looked like and word of God saying Cinder isn't that much older than the cast.

randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
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#42200: Nov 24th 2016 at 3:29:24 PM

She's 25...

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