Honestly people who keep calling PMMM a deconstruction of Magical Girl stuff are selling it short. Yes it does do that to some extent, but it's got far much more going on.
The Crystal Caverns A bird's gotta sing.Considering his Hair style and eye color are very similar to Ozpin's, I have a feeling he'll be important by the volume's end.
Watch SymphogearEven if he is important they surely could have found a better use of time than several minutes of watching him do chores last time.
Regarding the rest of Episode 2, my thoughts so far are something's up with Weiss' brother, they better do something with the multiple personality having butler, and her dad is pretty much what I was expecting. As for Jaune...this better not be heading in a direction where her death has made him a better fighter.
By the way, somebody has added Weiss' interaction with her dad to the CMOH page. I'm not going to remove it because if any page is subjective, it's that one, but jeez people.
The farm boy is there to screw with all of us
. That, or it leads to something not really relevant like Kick the Dog moment from the villains.
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Crowning Moment of Heartwarming? I could see an argument for that with her brother, but her dad?
And about Jaune being a better fighter, why wouldn't he be? It's been eight months of practice intermingled with actual fighting. There's no reason he shouldn't have gotten better in that time. I'm curious when he got that video but what's wrong with using it as motivation/training aid?
edited 30th Oct '16 9:02:42 AM by LSBK
@Ambar: Jaune's been getting continually better since the start of the show, and while Pyrrha's death has undoubtedly put a wrench in his efforts to better himself given his mentor is now dead, I see no reason why it's unreasonable to expect him to continue to improve as time goes on, especially if he starts training with Ruby as I suspect may happen.
Incoming Papa and Brother Schnee hate incoming. Prepare the defense fleet! Oh wait, I'm the only one on it.
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That isn't the only reason....good right?
It's pretty much already been said, but regarding the MEH discussion: a previously established bad person smiling while doing bad things is shoehorning of the highest order. That's the kind of example that feels like it says more about the person who posted it than about the show in question.
Specifically, it says, "This is when the Leather Pants fell off." But that's not what MEH means.
Regarding Jaune
I've only seen the first episode of season 2 thus far but I really liked Jaune in this episode. His plan - "Hit it harder" - may have been pretty simple but his reasoning and what the plan meant was well thought out. We get to see him be the tactician and we get to see the team rely on his tactical input, and it all comes together. Best of all, it doesn't feel like he's improved because of Pyrrha, but that he's finally living up to the character he was in the premiere.
Even the obligatory "Jaune fails at life" slapstick didn't feel like it was actually undermining his contribution to the team. This was a good episode for Jaune and gave me confidence in where RT is planning to take him.
My Tumblr. Currently side-by-side liveblogging Digimon Adventure, sub vs dub.Was the silver eyes thing a new ability? Yes. Did it solve a seemingly unsolvable problem in a sudden, unexpected way? Yes. Was it used to resolve the plot writing itself into a corner with a problem so extreme that nothing previously established suggested that there was a logical way for the protagonists to win? Yes.
So yeah, I'm going to call that a Deus ex Machina. That doesn't mean you have to dislike it, but I don't think you can legitimately claim that it wasn't one.
edited 30th Oct '16 10:37:34 AM by NativeJovian
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Thank you. And yeah, it definitely comes off as more of a "leather pants falling off" moment. That's a good way to put it.
Having gone to the YMMV page it appears that, despite one of the tropers involved having sent me a PM threatening to put it back up and demanding I be okay with it, that "MEH" for Neo has not, in fact, been readded. I found the spot on the Discussion page where the two of them were talking about it though, and left a message informing them of the general consensus in the thread and suggesting they bring it here if they want to talk about it any farther.
Thank you everyone for your cooperation. We may now return to making jokes about Adam the edgelord and Jaune and/or Blake being useless.
edited 30th Oct '16 10:38:03 AM by AmbarSonofDeshar
Wait, I'm confused, you're calling it a Deus ex Machina even though you admit it didn't fix most things in the situation and the villains plans are still going strong? Ruby's powers just gave a momentary reprieve, not a magical cure all to the situation like the term implies.
edited 30th Oct '16 10:43:03 AM by LSBK
New post as I return to discussing things other people in the thread care about, as opposed to dealing with wiki stuff.
I'm inclined to agree with Jovian about the Silver Eyes thing being a Deus ex Machina. Unlike him, I don't mind it, and I think it worked out alright, but it doesn't change the fact that Cinder's plan was only damaged because of Ruby manifesting a new ability, rather than anything she actually did, and I can see why that frustrates him.
Some people don't like it when a character succeeds by sheer luck rather than actual talent, and the sudden activation of an at best poorly foreshadowed ability with zero build up, is more or less the definition of succeeding by sheer luck. I don't mind it—but I get why Jovian does.
@Jovian: Actually it's an example of Chekhov's Gun; a situation where a previously insignificant detail becomes significant, and either way, this is something that happened early on in the overall plot of the series, so it's not nearly as much of an issue of this sort of thing happening near the end.
edited 30th Oct '16 10:44:59 AM by CaptainCapsase
Honestly I think Ruby could have taken Cinder (if not the dragon) without the Silver Eyes. Her fight with Pyhhra was a close one and I can't imagine her having much Aura at that point.
The Crystal Caverns A bird's gotta sing.Cinder didn't seem particularly exhausted or winded and I don't see Ruby actually being as skilled as Pyrrha.
Edit: And I still don't get calling that battle "close". Just because Pyrrha put up a good fight and it wasn't completely one-sided doesn't mean Pyrrha ever had a chance of winning.
edited 30th Oct '16 10:47:15 AM by LSBK

Leaving aside the Hype Backlash, which was very much a thing, I'm a) not a big enough fan of magical girl shows to find a deconstruction of one that interesting and b) unwilling to accept the notion that True Art Is Incomprehensible.