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unknowing from somewhere.. Since: Mar, 2014
#40826: Oct 29th 2016 at 9:30:59 AM

[up]Cinder LIKE to talk....a lot, actually, but yeah the whole thing seen more a author saving thow against her: now she is weak, cant talk and is mock which bring her down a peg the complain of being Villian sue, just hope there is devolpment on all this otherwise it would be a waste.

Also is just me or the whole episode have a very nice RPG vibe to it? the geist fight look like introductory fight and the village look very RPG, even more with Jaune showing his new bling

"My Name is Bolt, Bolt Crank and I dont care if you believe or not"
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#40827: Oct 29th 2016 at 9:32:45 AM

The show has had that feel for a while to me.

AmbarSonofDeshar Since: Jan, 2010
#40828: Oct 29th 2016 at 9:35:13 AM

By the way, while it may be too soon to tell, between the Beringel (the gorilla from the trailer) and the Geist it looks like we may be getting introduced to some notably more badass Grimm. Obviously I have no idea if that trend holds up through episode 2, but fingers crossed.

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#40829: Oct 29th 2016 at 9:41:29 AM

So, what's everyone's pet theory about Farm Boy? Apparently the big ones are either that he's a exception to the female only rule and the Spring Maiden, or trans and the Spring Maiden. I doubt it's either, but between the two I like the latter better.

But, anyone got anything else? I'm kind of hoping he has some other power that hasn't been brought up yet.

UndyingPhoenix Since: Feb, 2015 Relationship Status: You cannot grasp the true form
#40830: Oct 29th 2016 at 9:50:14 AM

I've seen a theory that he's Ozpin's reincarnation.

Also, Tyrian, Cinder, Hazel and Watts form Team WTCH.

Anyone else think that Salem has an invisible segway? [lol]

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#40831: Oct 29th 2016 at 9:53:16 AM

...He's kind of a lot too old to be Ozpin's reincarnation.

UndyingPhoenix Since: Feb, 2015 Relationship Status: You cannot grasp the true form
#40832: Oct 29th 2016 at 10:00:45 AM

Well, I mean like the whole 'successor' thing like with the Maidens. Didn't really know how else to describe it at the time

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#40833: Oct 29th 2016 at 10:02:22 AM

That still doesn't really make a lot of sense, but, eh.

UndyingPhoenix Since: Feb, 2015 Relationship Status: You cannot grasp the true form
#40834: Oct 29th 2016 at 10:07:06 AM

Well, there are already theories that Ozpin is the Wizard from the Maiden's tale. I've also seen theories that like the Maidens, the Wizard's powers might work on a genderflipped version of the Maidens in regards to succession i.e passes onto boys.

edited 29th Oct '16 10:07:57 AM by UndyingPhoenix

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#40835: Oct 29th 2016 at 10:10:36 AM

Ozpin implied he was around when it all started but not that he's the actual Wizard. Anyway, the Wizard's powers are the Maiden's powers, so it seems weird to talk about them as if they're separate. Unless that means the Wizard's semblance would transfer or something.

BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
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#40836: Oct 29th 2016 at 11:38:24 AM

So I caved and got a free first Trial.

EDIT: Man, fuck this series for making me feel things ;_;

edited 29th Oct '16 11:49:02 AM by BlackYakuzu94

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Mizerous Pet Owner from Hell Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: Brewing the love potion
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#40837: Oct 29th 2016 at 11:59:43 AM

Not a spoiler but judging by a few images it seems like this season will be like Walking Dead when the cast got plot up. More episodes focusing on certain parties or characters. Just saying in case you don't like that formula.

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BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
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#40838: Oct 29th 2016 at 12:04:26 PM

As per agreement, I shall not talk about the episode until tomorrow morning, so so long.

A lazy millennial who's good at what he does.
Soble Since: Dec, 2013
#40839: Oct 29th 2016 at 12:06:55 PM

(Just ate through a box of honey buns and the sugar is catching up with me, post will be spellchecked later) ...

Watching the episode right now. Not sure why anyone compares Tyrian to Kimblee. Kimblee had class. Tyrian's just an absolutely bog-standard giggling psycho (at least so far), and a childish one at that. I could see a comparison to the 2003!Kimblee I guess, but certainly not to the manga or Brotherhood versions.

It's the braid, the overly white color scheme, the way he looks and him being gleefully insane. Kimblee indeed had class [tup] but he was also gleefully, batshit insane when he wanted to be. I don't remember the difference between 2003 Kimblee except that he partnered with that filler villain guy who was part cyborg. And I mean tell me you don't see the Kimblee in there. Granted, an Ax-Crazy-ier Kimblee.

I want to say it's also because his weapon is Awesome, but Impractical even for this show, but, then, it's hard to say any of the weapons in this show aren't unusual or impractical.

Anyway that was my first impression before learning his name, and it was either that, or call him Male Bayonetta.

Having finished the first episode...okay random farm dude had better turn out to be important or I wasted several minutes of my life watching him do chores.

I KNOW RIGHT!?

Like what the frack random farm kid. I don't usually harp on RWBY's writing but that was completely... I mean something better happen with that.

The contempt that Watts and the others have for Cinder seems somewhat odd. Watts makes a comment about how he's glad Ruby seared her throat because it shuts her up, but Cinder was never much of a talker to start with. I get the feeling that there's a former power dynamic that we're not seeing here.

Team Evil WTCH is a bag of dicks? Yes, even the women.

Also is just me or the whole episode have a very nice RPG vibe to it?

It's as I thought. The reason it's taking/took them so long to get to Mistral is because they were SIDEQUESTING the whole damn time. I could totally see an RPG coming out of this arc. It has felt that way ever since we learned about people living outside of the kingdoms. If not for that tidbit this would've seemed like a Lighter and Softer Attack On Titan.

the Geist it looks like we may be getting introduced to some notably more badass Grimm.

Oh f'ck the hell yes we are, we are.

So, what's everyone's pet theory about Farm Boy? Apparently the big ones are either that he's a exception to the female only rule and the Spring Maiden, or trans and the Spring Maiden. I doubt it's either, but between the two I like the latter better.

First I've heard of either. And it'd be kind of schmaltzy for the show to violate it's own logic immediately after introducing said logic. Unless farm boy is secretly farm girl.

I've seen a theory that he's Ozpin's reincarnation.

[tup] Approved.

Well, there are already theories that Ozpin is the Wizard from the Maiden's tale. I've also seen theories that like the Maidens, the Wizard's powers might work on a genderflipped version of the Maidens in regards to succession i.e passes onto boys.

I like both of these actually.[tup]

...He's kind of a lot too old to be Ozpin's reincarnation.

All the caffeine in Ozpin's soul accelerated his reincarnate's growth. Ozpin doesn't even have a soul. It's just a Cuisinart and a bag of coffee grinds in there.

: Man, fuck this series for making me feel things

F'ck everything this season, I can't stop listening to the opening song, and so far we're towing the line between Breather Season, with JNRR, Blake, and Yang healing, and Cerebus Syndrome, with the villains assembled, ready to f'ck shit up.

like Walking Dead when the cast got plot up. More episodes focusing on certain parties or characters. Just saying in case you don't like that formula.

Which was pretty my favorite season, as it forced each character to develop, told different stories, raised the Holy Sh't Quotient, and killed off a bunch of filler characters nobody liked.

If this is anything like Red vs Blue this'll be a calmer season with sh't on the horizon, but because of the aforementioned towing of drama and comedy I haven't a clue.

edited 29th Oct '16 12:29:54 PM by Soble

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UndyingPhoenix Since: Feb, 2015 Relationship Status: You cannot grasp the true form
#40840: Oct 29th 2016 at 12:15:48 PM

All the caffeine in Ozpin's soul accelerated his reincarnate's growth. Ozpin doesn't even have a soul. It's just a Cuisinart and a bag of coffee grinds in there.

He's farming coffee beans as he always does when he reincarnates so that he can get back to his old self. Hence why only he stays there, because he owns it as private property.

edited 29th Oct '16 12:16:44 PM by UndyingPhoenix

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#40841: Oct 29th 2016 at 12:16:59 PM

[up][up]True, it wouldn't be the first time in fiction, when a character's sex has been obscured, only for it to latter be obvious in hindsight (in reference to Farm Boy possibly being a girl).

Mizerous Pet Owner from Hell Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: Brewing the love potion
Pet Owner
#40842: Oct 29th 2016 at 12:21:26 PM

Damn mobile phones messing up my texts. Anyway much like a few anime time skips things will feel slow as we get to learn about what our heroines have been up to with the plot slow building in the background. Remember how it took a while for stuff to happen in One Piece after the Pirate War arc?

Just Makima.
unknowing from somewhere.. Since: Mar, 2014
#40843: Oct 29th 2016 at 12:25:34 PM

So yeah, this season since to have a healing nature to it, soften the scar left in season 3, is a shame for a despair lover like me but well, that is how it work

But consider Walking dead already give me good and sweet despair in is opeing season I can be happy for a whiletongue

"My Name is Bolt, Bolt Crank and I dont care if you believe or not"
LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#40844: Oct 29th 2016 at 2:14:16 PM

By the way, how was the site working?

BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
CHADhan Player.
#40845: Oct 29th 2016 at 2:26:18 PM

Worked fine for me.

A lazy millennial who's good at what he does.
AmbarSonofDeshar Since: Jan, 2010
#40846: Oct 29th 2016 at 2:42:38 PM

I don't remember the difference between 2003 Kimblee except that he partnered with that filler villain guy who was part cyborg.

2003!Kimblee was a ranting nihilist who hated humanity and railed about how "humans aren't so special. Just the parts you need to create a bomb." His personality didn't extend beyond "sadistic thug". The manga version, conversely, brought a far more philosophical bent to his evil, what with his whole belief in people being able to surprise you and his loathing of hypocrisy.

I KNOW RIGHT!?

Like what the frack random farm kid. I don't usually harp on RWBY's writing but that was completely... I mean something better happen with that.

Given that he woke up from his nightmare in the midst of Tyrian's evil laugh I'm hoping he has some sort of connection to the crazy bastard. If only to give some more depth to what otherwise looks like it's going to be a pretty standard villain.

Team Evil WTCH is a bag of dicks? Yes, even the women.

It's not that I'm surprised they are dicks who are critical of one another. More that the nature of the mockery seems somewhat off. Again, while Cinder was certainly capable of talking a lot, it was usually with a cause, which makes Watts' bit about being glad she's silent now seem off. That's why I'm curious as to what the dynamic was like before Ruby burnt her.

Oh f'ck the hell yes we are, we are.

I don't want to count our chickens yet on that front, but I'm hopeful. The Geist being able to match RNJR for as long as it did was a good sign, as was the Beringel's fairly lengthy one-on-one with Ruby. I'd note that all the scarring on the latter's face and chest would indicate it's seen some action before, which makes it the first Grimm we've met whose design would suggest it actually has a backstory.

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#40847: Oct 29th 2016 at 2:45:18 PM

I thought Watts' comment about Cinder was implying that she can be sharped tongued, not that she necessarily talks a lot. I could definitely see her making a snarky or mocking retort to his comments under normal circumstances.

Edit: As for why he'd resent her, maybe because she's younger, maybe because she's given such an important role while presumably being a new(er) comer, maybe because Salem "favors" her. There's a lot that could be going on there really.

edited 29th Oct '16 2:49:42 PM by LSBK

CaptainCapsase from Orbiting Sagittarius A* Since: Jan, 2015
#40848: Oct 29th 2016 at 3:13:40 PM

Regarding farm boy being Ozpin 2.0, the theory would be that Ozpin has some sort of Body Surf thing going on. Farmboy is just his most recent host after the previous Ozpin died.

As far as theorizing about why the maidens are vulnerable to Ruby's power, I favor the theory that not just Cinder but the season maidens in general are all part Grimm, at least insofar as their power was stolen from Salem. During that bit in beginning of the end where Cinder is talking to Salem, stealing the maiden powers is apparently framed as "taking back what's ours", and I wouldn't be surprised if that turns out to be the Awful Truth behind the power that Ozpin felt compelled to apologize to Pyrrha over.

@Ambar: As far as team evil criticizing each other, I got the impression at least that Salem was supposed to come of as Affably Evil, and surprisingly tolerant of criticism/pointless banter from her subordinates for an Evil Overlord. Time will tell if it's an act or genuine.

edited 29th Oct '16 3:18:49 PM by CaptainCapsase

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#40849: Oct 29th 2016 at 3:19:01 PM

Don't think I would like that, actually. And chances are there would be some mention of the Grimm being "magical" or the Maiden power feeling "evil" if that were the case.

Still, have to wonder why Cinder could control the Grimm Dragon.

CaptainCapsase from Orbiting Sagittarius A* Since: Jan, 2015
#40850: Oct 29th 2016 at 3:20:54 PM

[up] Would it though?

It's really not at all clear what Salem actually is. Is she some corrupted human? The sole survivor of a race of precursors wiped out by Ozpin in ancient times? Something else entirely?

There's no reason any power stolen from her (or her people if we go with theory 2) would necessarily feel evil.

edited 29th Oct '16 3:24:54 PM by CaptainCapsase


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