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Soble Since: Dec, 2013
#40351: Oct 17th 2016 at 1:40:28 PM

I was under the impression that the four kingdoms were symbols of humanity pushing back against the Grim, killing off enough of them so they can start advancing their technology and make kingdoms where people live in peace. This says it's actually the opposite — the Grim are overwhelming humanity to the part where they're down to only four safe havens.

Not directed solely at you, but I and others have said this repeatedly whenever we get onto the topic of "how the Grimm are not a credible threat."

If mankind is down to four major kingdoms, we're either a young species, or something is killing us off for sport.

and the Grimm roam most of the world that means humanity is winning.

We are so not winning. Vale most certainly is not winning.

edited 17th Oct '16 1:42:47 PM by Soble

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#40352: Oct 17th 2016 at 2:02:16 PM

Since I've only watched Chibi, hopefully this'll be helpful for me.

i hope you're joking

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LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#40353: Oct 17th 2016 at 2:13:57 PM

I mean, the standard Grimm aren't much of a threat to the characters we follow, but the vast majority of people in the world aren't like the characters we follow.

Most people aren't highly trained individuals with specialized weapons and superpowers.

edited 17th Oct '16 2:45:06 PM by LSBK

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#40354: Oct 17th 2016 at 2:16:10 PM

The issue isn't that the Grimm aren't an established credible threat to humanity

The issue is that the storytelling didn't present a situation where Grimm attacking was tense due to being focused on our heroes being badass.

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#40355: Oct 17th 2016 at 2:16:43 PM

Which is probably why one kingdom has been aiming to have an army of machines do the fighting.

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#40356: Oct 17th 2016 at 2:43:39 PM

Credit where it's due, Atlas's idea for a mechanized army isn't necessarily a bad one - so long as they can keep their server safe.

CON: As demonstrated at the Vytal Festival, if someone gains control of the system, bad shit can go down.

PRO: Grimm are only interested in killing humans, so the mechanized forces may actually be able to go unnoticed by them long enough to get into position for a strike. They also don't have emotions, which means there is no risk of heightened negative emotions luring more Grimm into the fray and turning a battle that was previously going well into an unwinnable massacre.

In theory, Robots > Grimm.

edited 17th Oct '16 2:44:53 PM by TobiasDrake

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#40357: Oct 17th 2016 at 2:50:58 PM

The only problem is that, with what we saw of them, one new-ish Hunter (like anyone in Team RWBY) is worth at least 100 of the basic robots. When you get up to Hunters like Qrow, it's probably more like 1,000 or 10,000. The only thing that actually proved to be somewhat dangerous were Paladins and even those can be taken out with relative ease by appropriately leveled Hunters (and nowhere near Qrow's level, either). Hunters can probably take more of a beating, too.

You'd really have to do a lot of pro and con weighing and I'm not sure the robots would come out on top.

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#40358: Oct 17th 2016 at 2:56:34 PM

Why does anyone have to come out on top? They could never replace Hunters entirely, but the potential ability to move freely through Grimm-infested territory is a huge benefit in and of itself, and they can be mass-produced without endangering human life.

Qrow's great, but how many drones could be mass-produced in the time it took Qrow to achieve this level of mastery? 10,000? 100,000? A million? The drones wouldn't be a reason to stop training Hunters, but they could still completely reinvent the landscape against the Grimm.

Again: assuming Atlas can protect its f*cking server so something like Vale never happens again. The idea's pretty sound, but their execution has been lacking as of yet.

edited 17th Oct '16 2:57:14 PM by TobiasDrake

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#40359: Oct 17th 2016 at 3:35:20 PM

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#40360: Oct 17th 2016 at 3:44:03 PM

@LSBK: From what I can find, originally Myrtenaster was a pistol. You do carry pistols on the same side as the hand you use them with. However, the design changed to a rapier during production, and the left-handed holstering was left over.

Edit: Also, a World of Remnant has been released for Sponsors. Qrow-narrated, it goes into some detail about the Kingdom of Vale.

edited 17th Oct '16 3:45:59 PM by GeekCodeRed

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#40361: Oct 17th 2016 at 3:47:57 PM

[up][up] It's probably better that you binge-watch all three Seasons beforehand. >.>

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#40362: Oct 17th 2016 at 3:52:47 PM

[up][up]Kind of. Myrtenaster was originally a gunblade, with the rapier having a built-in revolver. This was changed to just a revolver chamber with dust in it, but yeah.

And LSBK, no you don't carry a rapier on the same side as your handedness. It's very difficulty to draw a blade longer than a foot in that manner.

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#40363: Oct 17th 2016 at 3:57:42 PM

I know about everything that happened in season 3, like the deaths. I also know about RWBY, JNPR, and Cinder's posse. Is there anything else I should know?

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#40364: Oct 17th 2016 at 4:01:41 PM

yeah, like everything else that happened during volumes 1-3.

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#40365: Oct 17th 2016 at 4:15:27 PM

I wonder if there ever has been a robot army in fiction that was harder to hack than a My Space blog.
\\ Anyway, if you wanna get pedantic (and of course you do, this is TV Tropes), if the Grimm's goal is to wipe out humanity, and humanity's goal is to survive, then a centuries-long stalemate with kingdoms that live normal, stable lives is most definitely a human victory.

Unless! The humans are being allowed to live, like... cattle. SEID IHR DAS ESSEN? NEIN, WIR SIND DER JAGER!

edited 17th Oct '16 4:16:41 PM by Ninety

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#40366: Oct 17th 2016 at 4:19:07 PM

[up]Considering that the CRWBY mention the Ao T similarities so often, I believe that may be the case.

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#40368: Oct 17th 2016 at 5:34:59 PM

If they had Jägers in RWBY the plot would be solved in ten minutes. Also, just got your avatar.

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#40370: Oct 17th 2016 at 5:53:31 PM

Anyway, I've recently come to a realization: Neo is awesome.

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#40371: Oct 17th 2016 at 6:22:11 PM

Recently? Pi hope you mean since Volume 2 ended. /joking mode

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#40372: Oct 17th 2016 at 6:25:45 PM

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Soble Since: Dec, 2013
#40373: Oct 17th 2016 at 6:40:02 PM

Recently!?

Did her smug umbrella-twirling not impress you!?

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#40374: Oct 17th 2016 at 7:07:01 PM

Did her beating Yang's ass with a smug smirk and barely touching her not tip you off?

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#40375: Oct 17th 2016 at 7:12:58 PM

I've been rewatching some things.


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