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randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#40251: Oct 14th 2016 at 8:29:34 PM

Can you really call it that if they aren't even people?

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Ssj3Gojira Arashi Shigehito from The Event Horizon Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
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#40252: Oct 14th 2016 at 8:30:38 PM

Yes, because they're still an ethnic group.

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VutherA Since: Jul, 2009
#40253: Oct 14th 2016 at 8:32:25 PM

I thought we were talking about killing Grimm still, I was just going No, Except Yes.

edited 14th Oct '16 8:32:41 PM by VutherA

randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#40254: Oct 14th 2016 at 8:36:05 PM

Eyes opened to new facts...

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God_of_Awesome Since: Jan, 2001
#40255: Oct 14th 2016 at 8:37:00 PM

I think I'd've liked some warning for that pic cause maybe I didn't want to fucking see that.

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#40256: Oct 14th 2016 at 9:28:58 PM

Decided to rewatch the volume 2 finale, and while I can get finding it kind of underwhelming for how quickly it was fixed, I think the ending makes the most sense for that situation.

Team RWBY solving everything by themselves there would have made no sense.

Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#40257: Oct 14th 2016 at 9:40:13 PM

Team RWBY solving everything isn't the fix people would want to see.

It's things not being solved so easily, regardless of who is involved.

Ssj3Gojira Arashi Shigehito from The Event Horizon Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
Arashi Shigehito
#40258: Oct 14th 2016 at 9:43:08 PM

Three actual Huntsmen got involved with that though, which includes Glynda, who just patched up the hole the Grimm were coming from in a few seconds; her, Port, and Oobleck could have probably handled that entire situation on their own.

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LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#40259: Oct 14th 2016 at 9:43:25 PM

I think that was the point though, and it works well with how things were set up.

Darthwyn leader of Inherit from The void Since: Feb, 2016 Relationship Status: You cannot grasp the true form
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#40260: Oct 14th 2016 at 9:43:52 PM

[up][up][up] Not that serious of a threat compared to everything that happened in the final battle of volume three. Just a large hole that grimm were coming through.

edited 14th Oct '16 9:44:57 PM by Darthwyn

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Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#40261: Oct 14th 2016 at 9:46:38 PM

That doesn't make an argument for it to being a compelling finale.

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#40262: Oct 14th 2016 at 9:48:35 PM

I mean, cool fighting, foiling a villain plot, progression to something that's been building for awhile, seems pretty good to me.

Darthwyn leader of Inherit from The void Since: Feb, 2016 Relationship Status: You cannot grasp the true form
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#40263: Oct 14th 2016 at 9:54:01 PM

[up][up] wasn't really making an argument on if it was compelling or not. I am just pointing out that the threat level was not high to begin with.

  • Three Adults with one who is has been shown to be very powerful on multiple occasions
  • Two Assassins that used that battle to probably forge their friendship with the protagonist and blend in.
  • Army of Atlas Robots
  • Three Teams of Students

Against a horde of grimm with one entry point. If they could not handle that then kingdoms would have fallen ages ago if it was that simple to take a kingdom of united humans. It's why the strong grim are waiting and why Salem talks about dividing humanity before taking them down.

edited 14th Oct '16 9:54:54 PM by Darthwyn

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Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#40264: Oct 14th 2016 at 10:07:12 PM

[up][up] The plot was too easily foiled

All that lead up was not worth the result

[up] Yes, I can understand why that didn't pose much of a threat. I don't give a shit, that has nothing to do with my point.

edited 14th Oct '16 10:07:53 PM by Saiga

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#40265: Oct 14th 2016 at 10:09:31 PM

It was easily foiled because there interference meant they had to start things before they were actually ready. All the lead up was to that end.

It wasn't the time to actually have them deal with a city wide threat, but seeing the bad guys planning and almost succeeding at one, was sign of things to come.

edited 14th Oct '16 10:10:10 PM by LSBK

Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#40266: Oct 14th 2016 at 10:17:20 PM

almost is a HUUUUGE stretch.

It isn't until volume 3 actually happens until we see how it could go badly. And then it it turns out the villains' plot goes just fine without that anyway. I mean, it might've been worse, but given how trivial it was, it doesn't feel like it would have a big impact on the chaos that was already unfolding.

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#40267: Oct 14th 2016 at 10:17:53 PM

Honestly, if we had seen Teams RWBY and JNPR get battered around a little more and seen the Grimm cause some more general destruction, I probably would have been mostly fine with the finale.

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Darthwyn leader of Inherit from The void Since: Feb, 2016 Relationship Status: You cannot grasp the true form
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#40268: Oct 14th 2016 at 10:22:01 PM

[up][up] what is the point your even trying to make because I don't get the point of complaining about volume 2 when it seems clear that the plan had nothing to stand on from the beginning. It was essentially just a ploy to undermine Ozpin.

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Karxrida from Eureka, the Forbidden Land Since: May, 2012 Relationship Status: I LOVE THIS DOCTOR!
#40269: Oct 14th 2016 at 10:23:29 PM

The Volume 2 finale was inherently flawed because the way things were meant there wasn't going to be any tension (or at least any good tension).

The "stop the train" fight should have been the finale because that's where all of the tension was.

Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#40270: Oct 14th 2016 at 10:23:36 PM

The point is that it's really unsatisfactory for a finale. It's just another example of the early volumes failing to deliver on build up and being unable to maintain tension.

In-universe excuses don't have any relevance there.

edit: Why even have them stop the train, if there is no consequence to them failing on that?

edited 14th Oct '16 10:25:05 PM by Saiga

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#40271: Oct 14th 2016 at 10:26:16 PM

[up]Saying the "early volumes" sounds weird when there have only been three. You could just say most of the series so far. Anyway, from the way they were talking, I assumed the actual plan was supposed to have a lot more Grimm, a lot faster. In that way, there interference made a huge difference, because they put everything off balance.

But, I guess I'm just the odd man out here. I thought it all worked together pretty well. It's fine, like I said, I get it, just putting my two cents in.

edited 14th Oct '16 10:28:11 PM by LSBK

Karxrida from Eureka, the Forbidden Land Since: May, 2012 Relationship Status: I LOVE THIS DOCTOR!
#40272: Oct 14th 2016 at 10:28:26 PM

Why even have them stop the train, if there is no consequence to them failing on that?
...Good point.

Ssj3Gojira Arashi Shigehito from The Event Horizon Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
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#40273: Oct 14th 2016 at 10:31:19 PM

Because Roman at the end of the day is just a hired hand, so he wouldn't be told all the details on the plans Cinder made.

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Darthwyn leader of Inherit from The void Since: Feb, 2016 Relationship Status: You cannot grasp the true form
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#40274: Oct 14th 2016 at 10:32:24 PM

[up][up][up][up] I don't how plot relevance means nothing when the plot should be what ties the entire story together.

[up][up][up] I thought it worked also especially with volume 3 since volume 2 works as a case of what happens when a group of people are united and work together compared to when things come crashing down.

[up][up] The plan was rushed ahead of schedule. It probably was meant to go with either another attack or when Vale had less defending it instead of an army and capable Huntsman and Huntresses.

edited 14th Oct '16 10:32:52 PM by Darthwyn

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Ssj3Gojira Arashi Shigehito from The Event Horizon Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
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#40275: Oct 14th 2016 at 10:34:11 PM

Well that and because RWBY were just lucky to be there at the right time; Roman probably only started on the plan because they were there to begin with.

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